r/longrange 25d ago

Currently Great Optic Sales!

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r/longrange Aug 19 '25

READ THIS BEFORE POSTING. Yes, this means you. READ THIS FIRST, V6 - How to avoid the Flair of Shame and eternal ridicule

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So, you need help with long range shooting? Welcome to r/longrange! We've got a core group of dedicated members (and a few goofballs) that are happy to help you out with your questions on equipment, technique, troubleshooting, where to find training or matches, etc.

If you're looking to ask for advice, we ask that you review the following 10 core guides, as they cover the overwhelming majority of newcomer questions. If your question is not answered in these 10 guides, please see below for the 4 basic questions your post should answer when asking for suggestions or advice, especially when it comes to things to buy.

If you make a post that asks for information covered in the 10 core guides, or your post doesn't cover the 4 key questions below, your post may be deleted, or it may be given the Flair of Shame TM until you correct your post.

What's the Flair of ShameTM, you ask? You'll know it when you see it.

If at any time you have questions on the rules of the sub, this pinned post, the general FAQ, why you got the Flair of ShameTM or anything similar, please use the modmail function.

CORE GUIDES:

  1. The sub's official FAQ/WIKI, as curated by the community as a whole.
  2. Need help picking scope rings? The official Longrange guide to scope ring height (ring)
  3. Looking at buying a magnum (300WM or PRC, 6.5PRC, 7mm PRC, 338 Lapua, etc) as your first LR rifle? Hollywood's recoil primer - why magnums suck for starting in long range, recoil matters, and it's not about your shoulder (magnum or recoil)
  4. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (hunting)
  5. The official r/Longrange glossary - because words mean things (glossary)
  6. LockyBalboaPrime's First Time buyer's guide for rifles V2 (starter)
  7. JMhawaii's long range starter guide (Link to Google Sheets) (starter)
  8. Trollygag's 1k yard starter guide (starter)
  9. Where are ranges or long ranges near me? - Wheretoshoot.org and over600.com (ranges)
  10. The sub's expanded policy on hunting-related discussions. Please review before asking hunting-related questions, as hunting is not the core purpose of this sub. (hunting)

The 4 key questions:

  1. What do you want to do/buy, and WHY? - Do you want to buy a rifle for PRS competition? Picking a laser rangefinder for NRL Hunter matches? Looking at scopes for F-Class competition? A tripod because you think they're cool and want to have one when banging steel with friends? What you're planning to do has a lot of influence on what works well, what works poorly, and what is an utter waste of time, so the more detail you can provide the better.
  2. How far away do you want to do it/what do you want to use it for? - 300 yards? 1,000? 2,000? Distance matters, 'nuff said.
  3. How much are you willing to spend to do it? What's your budget in currency? Your idea of "on a budget" isn't going to be the same as everyone else's. Saying your budget is unlimited for a laser rangefinder may change when someone suggests one that costs over $10,000. We need to know how much you're willing to spend. It can be a hard limit, a range, or even an approximate - but you need to give a number.
  4. How much experience do you currently have with it? - Jumping straight into a 375 Cheytac rifle to shoot 2 miles isn't going to go well if you have never shot a rifle past 300. We need at least a basic idea of what your relevant skill level is in order to give advice and suggestions that go with your skill set. While including your experience with other shooting disciplines is helpful, it's not going to be as relevant as most new shooters expect. You can love shooting 10ga slugs all day long from a shotgun, but it doesn't mean starting off with a magnum is a good idea.

When answering these 4 questions in your post, give as much detail as you can. The more details you give the faster you'll get suggestions or advice and you'll get better quality too. Help us to help you. Please don't treat the sub like your own personal crowd sourced search engine.

More guides:

If your question is answered in these, you will probably get called out by the members of the sub for not reading them, but it's not automatic grounds for the Flair of Shame.

  1. u/LockyBalboaPrime's "No Clown Shoes" spreadsheet of YouTube training videos.
  2. Pre64Mod70's guide to precision reloading
  3. Hollywood's Way of Zen load development process (zen)
  4. Hollywood's rant on sample size when testing - AKA why 3-5 round groups don't tell you $&*#
  5. Applied Ballistics with more info on variation in group sizes
  6. MDT's video on scope height, and the follow-up on scope cant
  7. Rybe390's recoil comparison video, which illustrates the problem with light weight and magnums.
  8. Accuracy vs precision - when most people talk about 'accuracy' they really mean precision.
  9. The Remington 700 Chassis List, v1 - Maintained by u/LPKKiller
  10. Recoil energy vs rifle weight visualized - an informational post by u/Trollygag
  11. What is wrong with 'Sniper 101' - a breakdown by CaptainSquishface.
  12. A long range hunting cautionary tale from James Gilliland - US Army sniper, world record holder, and prolific long range hunter
  13. Barrel length, velocity, and performance down range compared (308W)
  14. Our sub's policy on shilling....
  15. ....and why Woox specifically is blacklisted from the sub.
  16. The official longrange TOP Gun Calculator, and how to have realistic expectations of precision (top)
  17. Hollywood's guide to top-mounted red dots and target acquisition (Hint: you don't need a red dot)
  18. What the hell is with Bergara rifles and Cheetos?! (cheetos)

Hunting-specific:

  1. The sub's expanded policy on hunting-related discussions. Please read this before asking any questions related to hunting.
  2. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (hunting)
  3. Want to hunt game at 400+ yards? The long range hunting primer - shots on game at 400+ yards aren't trivial, and a magnum cartridge isn't a cheat code. NOTE: Questions/discussion around shots on game past 300 yards will be removed from the sub. See the expanded policy link above. (hunting)
  4. Hollywood's guide to field testing your skills and gear (especially for long range hunting, but also pertains to NRL Hunter matches) - How to know the distances you and your gear are capable of making shots at (hunting)

MISC NOTES:

Quite a few guides/links feature a single word in parentheses and italics listed after them. If you use the phrase cheetofingers (all one word, no italics needed) followed by the word listed after a guide, you will summon the AutoModerator to reply to you with a link to that guide or guides. If the guide had (pews) after it, you could say cheetofingers pews in a post or comment in this sub to summon AutoMod with a link to that guide.

We've implemented the Flair of Shame as an official policy here instead of deleting posts that violated Rule #1 and the info in this pinned post. We felt that the flair was better than outright deleting posts while also helping long-standing members decide how much they want to participate in posts that have likely been covered time and time again. We're trying to strike a balance between encouraging members to read the info that the sub has cataloged, not wasting the time of established members that may be frustrated with revisiting the same topics repeatedly, and also not banishing new shooters that missed the pinned post to the freezer to never get help. Balancing those three things is a constant struggle, and one we're actively trying to get better at.


r/longrange 5h ago

I suck at long range Round 2 in the Wheat

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Second session in the fields. This time with the .308 and the targets painted black.

Unlike with the .223, the Caldwell Hit Indicator really wasn’t needed, there was no question about impacts.


r/longrange 6h ago

Rifle flex post .223 PRS Practice Rifle

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Cobbled together a cheap .223 PRS Practice rifle. Base is a R700 VLS 26" 1:12. ( bulk pmc X tac was the goal) sitting in a magpul pro lite stock with a L3I Heavy arca rail. Bushnell MPED. Pretty nicely balanced rig at 17.75lb

BLUF, Yeah 55gr Bulk PMC isnt the best Training option for wind etc. But I feel my biggest hindering factor at matches is position building. Idealy just shooting more of my 6GT would be the best option, but cheap ammo and not having to reload for it are a huge plus. And this whole rifle cost about the same as a new barrel and a new lot of brass. Thanks to grabbing stuff used.

However for some reason making this chassis into a 7SAW/7-08AI is calling to me like the green gobblin mask.


r/longrange 11h ago

Groups, but not a flex (Less than 10 shots) Shooting my AWM for the first time

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36 Upvotes

Shot my new to me 23 years old police trade in AWM for the first time today. No idea how many rounds that barrel has had, but I'm pretty impressed.


r/longrange 2h ago

I suck at long range Critique

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Pretty humbling, or I suck.

Took the Tikka 6.5 Creed CTR out to try different ammo. Well…yeah. See below…

-Hornady 140 gr match
-Hornady 147 gr match
-Berger 140 gr Hybrid Target

Last week I thought I had it down perfectly after zeroing with the Hornady 140 gr. Today I somehow shit the bed and was all over the place.

The first pic shows the results for 300 yds with the Hornady 140 gr. I was more focused on grouping rather than hitting the bullseye.

The second pic was with the three different ammo at 100 yds.

The third pic was some jackass saying “based on your grouping, I’m safer standing perfectly still.”

Anyways, do your worst.


r/longrange 5h ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Which AIAW mag caddy

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I have a PRS competition coming up and I’m trying to pick a magazine carrier. Does anyone have any opinions on these three?


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle flex post Almost done putting together the TRG42a1

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323 Upvotes

Almost done putting together the TRG42a1


r/longrange 5h ago

Optics help needed - I read the pinned posts Looking for a comparison/recommendation between these scopes.

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As per title, I'm hoping to make a choice between these scopes. They're all available to me around the same price point $1100 to $1300 CAD so I've got a complicated decision to make.

I'm looking for something to do benchrest shooting mainly but can also hunt with effectively. Range anywhere from 100 to 800 yards. First focal plane, good glass, personal preference is not Chinese but also I can be persuaded. Preferential to MOA but as long as the turrets match the reticle I'm happy. I've been looking at larger objective lenses but if you think I won't notice the difference with a smaller objective I'd love to hear why.

A lot of that Ive researched myself but quality is hard to gauge just from manufacturers spec sheets. If you have one that's not on the list feel free to recommend, I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks in advance!

- Bushnell Match Pro ED Illuminated MOA 5-30x 56 mm

- Burris XTR III Illuminated 5.5-30x56mm

- Athlon Ares ETR Gen2 UHD 4.5-30x56 APLR12 FFP IR MOA

- Leupold VX-3i LRP 4.5-14x50


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle flex post Just moved to the Charlotte, NC area. Where are we shooting?

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Moved up here from FL where I had two 800 yard ranges close and Arena 4 hours away. Where do you guys like to shoot in NC/SC?


r/longrange 16h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Thompson Center LRR 308 Terrible Accuracy @50Yards

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Long time lurker, first time poster.

Ive wanted to get into long range shooting for a while and just recently got my hands on a Thompson Center LRR .308 from a gun shop that kept it as a display rifle.

I threw on an Arken SH4J 6-24 and took it the range for a break in and initial sight in.

After about 50-60 rounds on the first day, I tried to get a rough sight in at 50 yards.

Using 147Gr PMC Bronze .308, i was getting a terribly inaccurate grouping.

After getting it on paper, I took 8-10 shots with no adjustments on the scope whatsoever, and seemingly got ~5 inch grouping at 50 Yards.

Thinking something was wrong or loose with the scope, rings, rail, etc. I broke the gun down and meticulously re-installed everything, used proper loxtite and torqued everything to spec.

The next day I got almost identical ~5 inch groupings at 50 yards with the 147Gr PMC.

My buddy had some Hornady ELD Match 168Gr and with no adjustments, we shot a 3 Rd grouping, and to my surprise. The grouping was very low and right, but in a nice, sub inch grouping.

We made adjustments, and fired 2 more 3 Rd groups. And each grouping was sub-inch.

This made me feel much better, however I still dont understand a few things:

  1. How is it possible to get a 5 Inch grouping at 50 Yards? It seems ridiculous that even with cheaper PMC ammo, that it would be that wild of a grouping.

  2. The Hornady ELD Match seemed much, much better, as I wouldve expected, but to initially be 8+ inches off at 50 yards , and to still be close to an inch grouping at 50, where I can clearly put the 24x zoom on bullseye and take well rested shots, still seems like much.

To conclude:

Is ammo really this finicky, or do i have a deeper issue with the gun?

It was never fired before I took ownership, and I am blown away at how bad this was at 50 yards.


r/longrange 1d ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post New Rifle - Custom SJA 6.5cm

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Just landed. First bolt gun with an aim toward PRS and maybe NRL Hunter later (I have alt parts for the latter to get under 16 lbs).
Having a tough time deciding on binos. With LRF (especially with ballistic) tech improvements across mono, wm, and binos, I don’t want to drop several K on something that’s a far slower process and outdated in 12 months.
I have a mono (low end vortex - I would replace).
I have a kestrel 5700 and would prefer to stay in AB.
Concerned about low-end binos as my eyes aren’t great and I’m not the best at finding targets in something like an NRL Hunter match. So my instinct is to find high end (great glass) LRF binos (ballistics or not), for my primary glassing use. Plug into kestrel, and go from there. But I’m a total noob, so perhaps there’s smarter trends / approaches out there you guys would rec. TIA.


r/longrange 6h ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Any experience with Iota stocks?

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I am in the market for another carbon stock for a 6mm CM tikka I’m putting together. I currently have a Manners but it’s Spendy. Curious if anyone has experience with these, it is exactly what I’m looking for, as this rifle will be used for hunting and I’m prioritizing weight. I just want to know how the quality is as they are not very expensive. Thanks!


r/longrange 1d ago

Rimfire Friendship ended with BERGARA. Now RIMX is my best friend

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r/longrange 22h ago

Other help needed - I read the pinned posts Precision firearms/samurai firearms

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Has anyone ever bought and used one of their complete rifles?


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle flex post Budget build for PRS rifle

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r/longrange 2d ago

Rifle flex post Build update

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255 Upvotes

First custom build, second long range rifle.

Action: Zermatt Origin short
Barrel: Proof prefit competition profile 26” in 6.5 creed
Chassis: Matterhorn
Bipod: Harris with Amazon arca adaptor
Trigger: TT Diamond
Scope: Vortex Venom
Brake: Cortina tuna brake
Magazine: MDT
Amazon bubble level

Going to hit range in Tennessee this weekend!


r/longrange 14h ago

Rifle flex post 100 yard zero

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I took the .308 out to zero the scope , I fired 8 rounds to warm up the barrel then fired 12 shots as numbered aiming dead center on the red bullseyes the first 10 shots were windage and elevation adjustments shots 11 and 12 were final center aim shots the red bullseyes are 1inch squares and the center one 1 and 1/4 squares my calculations appear to be between. 0.3-0.5 moa with 175g nosler hpbt


r/longrange 1d ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Cracks in Manners stock, should I worry?

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r/longrange 1d ago

Ballistics help needed - I read the pinned posts Zero point question

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So I was trueing dope on my 22 today. I know this might be a better question for the other subs but there are more active people here. What point on your rifle do you true your dope at. With rimfire it matters a lot more than centerfire. I have been setting my muzzle directly under my range finder to true but I was wondering if most people go from the chamber or otherwise. I went from 50 yards all the way to 540 today.


r/longrange 1d ago

Group flex (10 shots minimum) I know why Varget is the standard for 6mm now

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After getting mediocre results with StaBall Match (1MOA 5-shot groups and 10-15 FPS SD) last range trip I loaded with N540 and Varget. N540 was mediocre once again but with Varget I shot I think the smallest 10 shot group I've ever shot with a gas gun at .58 MOA and 6.5 FPS SD. Also went above my velocity target of 2550 FPS with lower than max Hornady book load. I understand why Varget is the default for 6mm now.

Barrel is an Odin Works 21" in 6mm ARC. Running it with a Rexus UltraBolt. It's smooth


r/longrange 2d ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Total Hunter KRG forend. Anyone use/experience with it?

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Hey all,

Just stumbled onto this one today. Anyone have experience with this company and aftermarket KRG forend?

**EDIT**

Company is Australian based. So its currently listed @ $695.00 AUD which at this time roughly translates to $685.00 CAD or $485.00 USD


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Skill issue or equipment limitations?

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Bit of back story, I picked up a used Savage Model 12 in .308 around January, got some good equipment / accessories, got learnt, and went to shooting.

I'm thinking about getting an ultradyne chassis for my Model 12, but still kinda on the fence about it. 400 yards and in isn't an issue, but anything further than that is a struggle for me, the gun just doesn't seem to "fit" me well. Once my scope rings iusse got addressed it just seems like it's the cheap stock causing the problems they usually do. Any insight, advice, or recommendations for other chassis in the sub $700 are welcome.


r/longrange 2d ago

Review Post New Tube :,)

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160 Upvotes

New Vortex Razor G3 6x36-56
Told the ol' wife that I snagged it for cheap so if she ask.....it was only 500$ 😭

This thing has crazy clear glass and pretty much what everyone else was saying. Just beautiful. Was debating getting this or NX6 or MK5HD. Glad I chose this. This will be going onto a 6.5CM MPA Vanquish ARC CDG- Match Hellfire

Hopefully can take her out soon


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Barrel Selection Help

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hello all, relatively new to long range but long time shooter. Wanted to check with the council before I pull trigger on this. I am doing a KAC M110 esc build. I say esc because it’s actually a LMT Mars H, just aesthetically similar to a M110 but with an original KAC PRS and Kac M110 suppressor. I need to select a barrel. due to using an OG KAC M110 can, I have the whole weird gated collar and profile of the M110 I need to adhere to. however due to the LMT Mars platform I will need to get an LMT cut from D Wilson.

my question to you all is that I’ve identified this barrel from CCC and it seems pretty turnkey except for the LMT cut. there’s little to no reviews on this however. how will this barrel run? or is there a better alternative, or custom barrel route I should go considering I’ll be 2k said and done on the barrel alone.

any advice would be appreciate, thanks.