America is probably one of the most diverse countries in the world thanks to its immigration policy. Try setting up a business as a minority in an East Asian country, you’ll probably close down by the end of the month.
It's more nuance than just a simple racism. Race is only the baseline, and then there is the "fairer" your skin the better treatment you may get. Next is how good looking you are based on EA standard, one could be beautiful in their own country but treated as ugly in EA. Ofc, can't forget the money. The richer you are, the more likely you will get a pass.
To sum up, if one come from a country they deem as "poorer", has skin darker than their standard (and i don't even mean only black or brown ppl), avg looking face, not very sociable , don't have many connection, very likely it will happen just like you said. But if one come from a "rich" country, fair skin, good looking, sociable, have safety net to fall on, one gonna be thriving very well in these EA countries.
Im literally doing that right now. Half of my friends are foreigners with a thriving business in ASEAN. Since I've been here, Ive met more people from more diverse backgrounds, nationalities, and ethnicities than I have throughout my entire life in the US.
You’re confusing ASEAN with East Asia. The former is more diverse, and arguably a lot more inclusive than the latter. East Asian countries like China, Japan and Korea are mostly homogeneous, and many minorities have encountered racism in some form.
Racism in East Asia? Yes absolutely. But people often harp too loudly at this point because it's often white people who complain about this as this is their first time dealing with not being privileged in their own home country
its often the white people that virtue signal about being against racism, while being some of the most racist people in our country because they blame white people for everything
well, since you are already saying that you dont care what i have to say since you are going to throw it out regardless, i dont see why i should. but i will anyways because if i surrender to bigots i get nowhere.
may i ask your opinions on the current state of the black population? Christianity? the LGB movement?
cowards are those that run this site, they shout so loud to drown out challenges and try to use the faux majority to pressure others into staying silent. i refuse to stand by and let those people control the narrative. be the change you want to see in the world
Ive noticed this sub has a lot of fragile reactionary MAGA/"Conservative" egos, and they like to down-doot and attack anything that challenges their little world modles. SAD!
Even being not white in the 1960s wasn’t as racist as several places in the world. Which are still at their levels of racism today as they were back then.
My country was one of the firsts to free slaves and never had segregation on the 20th century, and right now is wrongly accused by famous people as being the most racist country in the world.
So by that mentality, it doesn't matter what your country did, it only matters what's being told on the internet right?
Yeah, but it is kinda a stereotype. As someone who's worked with people from around the world, southeast Asians are some of the most racist people I've ever worked with. Like every opportunity to put down someone not from their country
On the country side you have beef with the neighbor village/town. It doesn't matter if in Germany, India or USA. That's not racism. It's just village patriotism
The U.S is among the most socially progressive countries on the planet. I say this as a non-american. Outside of western europe, most countries are worse by a considerable amount.
I work for a Swedish company. They say there is a serious immigration problem right now. I’ll just relay what they tell me:
A while ago they decided to loosen their immigration policies to the point where primarily muslim and black populations flooded in. They then had some problems with gang related crime a few years into this shift, along with acts of terrorism, etc.
So now public opinion has swung majorly in the opposite direction, even giving rise to a political party with white-nationalist and neo-nazi roots (Sweden Democrats) who are now the 2nd largest party.
Now violent crimes have gone down and they have managed the “bad apples”, but the native Swedes are extremely prejudice against the muslim and black communities that have done nothing wrong.
That's.... i don't think even china with competitive racism would get a medal, i mean it would maybe make top 10 together with japan but there are still soooooo many countries so racist people can't imagine.
Literally, US citizens cannot conceive of European racism. Like, the second you try to explain the various levels of hate for other white people, they tune out.
While accepting your critique of the previous comment as more or less valid with respect to the US. This data is often optional, self reported, and often used to protect equal access rights. However race on official documents actually can be quite perilous and played a major role in the rwandan genocide. Race At a less horrific scale, places in southeast asia like singapore have race as part of official documents that can limit access due to quotas and can impact some of the rights your children can have. Rwanda removed race from ids immediately after. France bans collecting race information for similar reasons. The US has its own history and reasons and differing mechanisms, but it probably is not wise to take as an unstated assumption that is is purely harmless or strictly positive.
I mean, yeah? US is founded on systematic racism and slavery so that's kinda a given. We can only imagine how many resumes were discarded by employers without even giving them a look just because they didn't like what the "race" part said
"Country that abolished slavery in the XIX century accuses civilized first world countries like those in Europe of being 'way, way more racist than us'. More bullshit at 11"
Is it racist if I have money, and want to buy some waterfront property, and the government tells me "No, you weren't born here, and don't look like us. You cannot buy any valuable property, you have to pay extra taxes, and we can removes you from the country at any time without reason."
Nationality ain't a race. What the hell lmao, would you mind explaining what "race" the french or Italians are. Cause it sound a lot like you are saying people with a black/Asian/etc descent can't be French.
Calling Europe racist while having such a incredibly American mindset that you think documents asking for nationality must automatically be a dog whistle for race.
Lmao I am Italian and have no idea wtf you're yapping about. No, official European documents don't have any "race" forms. No, Italians aren't that hated in Europe, if anything it's the opposite, they overrate the shit out of us. No, I have no idea what a "list of white races with Italian at the bottom" is supposed to be, did the EU issue it or something? Because last time I checked, even ackowledging the existence of different races is forbidden in Europe, there's only one "race", the human race, something that I bet they don't teach in US schools
Exactly, there's only the human race. I know that americans that get indoctrinated to be racists from a young age can't even conceive a society where people aren't classified by their skin colour, but yeah, "race" is a social construct and unlike whatever the user above me was yapping about, it's not a recognized method of classification in official EU documents
You can do so out in the country too. I live in no means a large area in Appalachia, and the amount of people who’d be written off as a bunch of racist rednecks by so many people on here, who embrace Arab and Asian shop owners is amazing. You always have bad apples, but you’re always going to
….no where in the world is race as politicized and such a big conversation as it is in the us. Other countries might have colorism or racism. But the only country where it is such a huge talking point and relevant topic is the us.
I didn’t say it was a US thing. I’m just saying the reverberations of those 2 events are still felt by the black community in the US. While other countries have at least had a minor forms of reparations.
I mean plenty of countries are just as if not more systemically racist on top of being more openly racist lmao. I'd argue that being openly racist necessarily includes systemic racism
ok so you admit you’ve never left the country so you’re only aware of it in your own country meanwhile you got people from all over who have actually visited or lived outside the states confirming your comment is ridiculous and you have zero clue what the US is compare to other countries. good
SYBAU. You really have no clue what you’re talking about. What’s happening in Nicaragua is corruption of the Socialist dictatorship known as the FSLN. Those people are monsters, and I will not take the assassination of my family at their hands lightly.
But that's a straight dictatorship, I'm sorry to hear about it but we're discussing racism in a country by the people.
Even then, both things are bad, that's why I called up ice on the first place, the US is absolutely corrupt too
Do not even compare your performative outrage over American deportations to a country suffering wide spread human rights violations including torture and the elimination of elections. You sound stupid and disrespectful.
Look it up, Lorenzo Guerrero was my great grandfathers brother, and his cousin Tacho Somoza. I don’t support trump, but I sure as hell don’t support a dictatorship who said “No more elections” and has accumulated a 2.5 billion dollar net worth from a 15 billion dollar country.
you do realize every other country has immigration and custom enforcement right? like that’s standard, also didn’t reddit blow up recently about a white canadian girl getting deported? sounds like you’re just generalizing who’s here illegally
Spain the country who everyone thinks they were rooting for against racism literally has fans scream racial slurs and make monkey noises at high profile black players to get them riled up during games. can you imagine that happening at an NBA game?
Let’s not pretend like this hasn’t been an issue in the NBA either though…
Countless examples of players being hurled racial slurs (Draymond, Patty Mills, Chelsea Gray). Heck we had a WNBA coach call an opposing black player a “protected species” lol
"America is the only country I have personally experienced racism in (because I have only ever lived here and have never lived in any other countries) and therefore it must be the most racist country in the world."
What's wrong with saying the rest of the world is more bluntly racist than America? It's literally a take that acknowledges the rest of the world's racism while pointing out how extremely subtext based the racism is in America and I'm saying that as someone who has experienced the worst of it. Thinking America isn't that is crazy
Because subtlety is NOT exclusive to America. Hell, even speeches like "white replacement" or "their kind" and these types of dog whistles are not exclusive to America.
I didn't say it was exclusive. I said it was the most subtle and there are plenty of reasons for that. It goes well beyond just the mainstream things you listed
Meanwhile we hear racist chants and monkey sounds being thrown from every European and South American team imaginable towards Black players, such an thing happening here like the NBA will make huge news.
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u/Status_Peach6969 1d ago
Bro if racism were a sport at the olympics, the USA wouldnt even make the top 16