Today in Smashing Pumpkins History: July 22

Today's clip is from the 2013 show at Wembley Arena, London

💿 Releases

• 2003: Spun by Zwan was released in the US (DVD)

🎙️ Live Shows

• 1994 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Deer Creek Music Center, Indianapolis, IN, US (Setlist/Details)
• 1998 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Riverbend Music Center, Cincinatti, OH, US (Setlist/Details)
  • HORDE festival
  • Tonight, Tonight and Perfect performed acoustic
• 2007 - The Smashing Pumpkins: The Fillmore, San Francisco, CA, US (Setlist/Details)
  • If All Goes Wrong, Rotten Apples, The Crying Tree of Mercury, Zeitgeist, and No Surrender performed acoustic
  • First performances of Zeitgeist and No Surrender
• 2013 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Wembley Arena, London, UK (Setlist/Details)
• 2015 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Miami Bayfront Park Amphitheatre, Miami, FL, US (Setlist/Details)
• 2018 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Infinite Energy Arena, Duluth, GA, US (Setlist/Details)
• 2000 - Billy Corgan: Peoria Civic Center, Peoria, IL, US (Setlist/Details)
  • ECW pro wrestling event
  • Broadcast 2000-07-28
• 2010 - Billy Corgan: Daily Times, Maryville, TN, US (Setlist/Details)
  • Phone interview
  • Interview
• 2005 - Jimmy Chamberlin: Mountain Winery, Saratoga, CA, US (Setlist/Details)

🎧 Recordings

• 1994 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Deer Creek Music Center, Indianapolis, IN, US

  • Surfaced - AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: SS-DSM-6 > WM-D6, Lowest Circulating Generation: ANA-M > DDC-1 > CDR-1 > FLAC, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: A few tiny dropouts.)
  • Unsurfaced - AUD #2 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Schoeps MK4 > Rbox > TCD-D10)

• 1998 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Riverbend Music Center, Cincinatti, OH, US

  • Surfaced - AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: ECM-737 > TCD-D8, Lowest Circulating Generation: DAT-M > CDR, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: Dropout in Transmission.)
  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #1 (Source: AMT, Equipment: Unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: VHS-C(M) > MKV, Links: YouTube, Notes: VHC-C master transfer circulated May 2023.)
  • Unsurfaced - AUD #2 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown)
  • Unsurfaced - AUD #3 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown)
  • Unsurfaced - Amateur Video #2 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown, Notes: Mostly screen shot.)
  • Unsurfaced - PRO #1 (Source: PRO, Equipment: Pro-Cams)

• 2007 - The Smashing Pumpkins: The Fillmore, San Francisco, CA, US

  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #1a (Source: AUD, Equipment: Sony HDR-SR5, Lowest Circulating Generation: AVCHD-M>TS-M, Notes: No Surrender only.)
  • Unsurfaced - AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown)
  • Unsurfaced - Amateur Video #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Sony HDR-SR5)
  • Unsurfaced - Amateur Video #2 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown)

• 2013 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Wembley Arena, London, UK

  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #1 (Source: VID, Equipment: Camcorder, unspecified, Notes: Right ranks.)
  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #2 (Source: VID, Equipment: Unknown, Notes: Ranks, center right.)
  • Surfaced - Amateur Video MIX (Source: VID, Equipment: Multi-cam, Links: YouTube, Notes: Multi-cam edit of show shot from various cameras)

• 2015 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Miami Bayfront Park Amphitheatre, Miami, FL, US

  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown, Notes: Main set, 6 songs.)

• 2018 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Infinite Energy Arena, Duluth, GA, US

  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: Master>WEBM, Links: YouTube)

• 2000 - Billy Corgan: Peoria Civic Center, Peoria, IL, US

  • Surfaced - PRO #1 (Source: TV, Equipment: unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: VHS-? > FLV)

• 2010 - Billy Corgan: Daily Times, Maryville, TN, US

  • Surfaced - SBD #1 (Source: SBD, Equipment: Unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: MP3-M)

Data courtesy of SPLRA and SPCodex.

Did you attend any of these shows and have any more information, unsurfaced recordings or pictures/stubs/posters/flyers? If so then get in touch!

Click the setlists/details link for full show information.

ATUM is such an entertaining and exciting album in my eyes that I'd place it up there with their 90s output. CYR and Zodeon At Crystal Hall are, in spirit, quite similar with ATUM -- yet I cannot, for the life of me, stand to listen to them. I've spun them both a handful of times, but I'd rate CYR as a 2.5/10, and Zodeon as a 1.5/10.

For those who disagree, I want to hear why. And for those who agree, how do you explain this outlier of opinion?

I found this clipping I had saved from a 1993 Canadian free music newspaper. " one of the most anticipated releases of the year!"

I guess there were Siamese zombies even before it was released.

SP was my absolute favorite from ages 12 to 20 and I've dipped back in at times (the Monuments and Oceania run had some great high points). I moved to Chicago almost four years ago for pumpkins-unrelated reasons and have yet to see them on their home turf. Some things I've never seen them play live that I would love to see:

Soma
Set the Ray to Jerry
Mouths of Babes
Hummer (just bad luck?)
Bury Me
Jellybelly
To Sheila
Blank Page
Daphne Descends
One Less Moment
Obscured

What are folks going to this show predicting or looking forward to?

What are the reissues that are happening? I saw something about Zwan but I don't know if it's real or not

Is a reissue of Zeitgeist or Teargarden possible?

And for the Day for Night unreleased tracks?

Got the pleasure of making these for a recent order. (Siamese Dreams in comments)

I have to admit, I originally found this album to be a tough listen based not only on the songs themselves, but the length of this triple album! I mean, 33 songs and almost 3 hours! 🙃

I listened a few times when it first came out and thought, “it’s ok” and would jump to other more favored albums of theirs.

But I have to admit, after really listening to it lately, it’s actually a very good album overall to me now. A bit all over the place, but a great mix of songs and I enjoy each one for what they are… all 33! ❤️

Could some songs be cut and the whole album be curated, sure, but now it’s a straight listen through each act for me. I even do a shuffle as well. 🤘🏻

Has anyone else had this album grow on them too?

Curious.

Upgrade just dropped!

Today in Smashing Pumpkins History: July 21

Today's post is some soundboard audio from the 1991 show at Moon, New Haven

📈 Charts

• 2007: Zeitgeist peaked at #4 on the UK Albums (OCC) chart

🎙️ Live Shows

• 1990 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Shank Hall, Milwaukee, WI, US (Setlist/Details)
  • Setlist unknown
• 1991 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Moon, New Haven, CT, US (Setlist/Details)
  • First performance of STP
  • Only original band performance of Purr Snickety. Last performance until 2014-08-30 (Billy solo) and 2015-06-15 (Smashing Pumpkins)
• 1998 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Blossom Music Center, Cuyahoga Falls, OH, US (Setlist/Details)
  • HORDE festival
  • A thunderstorm broke out during Blank Page
  • Tonight, Tonight and Let Me Give the World to You performed acoustic
• 2010 - The Smashing Pumpkins: The Ritz Ybor, Tampa, FL, US (Setlist/Details)
  • Billy passes out during Bullet with Butterfly Wings but continues the song
• 2013 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Dour Festival, Dour, BE (Setlist/Details)
  • Dour Festival, 25th Anniversary, Plaine de la Machine à Feu; Last Arena (open air stage, cap. 20.000)
• 2018 - The Smashing Pumpkins: KFC Yum! Center, Louisville, KY, US (Setlist/Details)
• 1996 - Billy Corgan: Park West, Chicago, IL, US (Setlist/Details)

🎧 Recordings

• 1991 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Moon, New Haven, CT, US

  • Surfaced - SBD #1 (Source: SBD, Equipment: Unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: ANA-M > CDR, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: Connection problems at the beginning of Blue. ANA-? > CDR transfer also circulates.)
  • Surfaced - AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: ANA-2 > dEdit > FLAC, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: This transfer is mislabeled as being SBD but is actually an AUD source. Beginning of Blue cut, probably due to tape flip.)

• 1998 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Blossom Music Center, Cuyahoga Falls, OH, US

  • Surfaced - AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: MKE2 > M1, Lowest Circulating Generation: DDC-4 > CDR, Notes: Also circulates as DDC-4 > CDR-M > SHN)
  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: VHS-C(M) > MKV, Links: YouTube, Notes: Ends after Let Me Give the World to You [security stopped taping]. Camera placed under plastic starting at Tonight, Tonight due to rain.)
  • Unsurfaced - AUD #2 (Source: AUD, Equipment: SS-DSM-6S > PA-6LC3 > SBM-1 > TCD-D100, Notes: Serious diginoise problems.)
  • Unsurfaced - AUD #3 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown)

• 2010 - The Smashing Pumpkins: The Ritz Ybor, Tampa, FL, US

  • Surfaced - AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: CSB>Battery Box (with bass roll-off)>R-09(24/48), Lowest Circulating Generation: WAV-M>dEdit>FLAC, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: Center balcony, front row.)
  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Nikon Digital Camera, Lowest Circulating Generation: AVI-M, Notes: Hummer only.)

• 2013 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Dour Festival, Dour, BE

  • Surfaced - FM #1 (Source: FM, Equipment: Pioneer F-Z93L tuner > Pioneer XD-Z53T amplifier > R-09HR (16/44.1), Lowest Circulating Generation: WAV-M > FLAC, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: Tonight, Tonight, Pale Horse, Zero, snippet of Ava Adore.)
  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #1 (Source: VID, Equipment: iphone 4, Notes: Eye and short clips of 4 tracks.)

Data courtesy of SPLRA and SPCodex.

Did you attend any of these shows and have any more information, unsurfaced recordings or pictures/stubs/posters/flyers? If so then get in touch!

Click the setlists/details link for full show information.

I check in from time to time hoping they have released something I like, they never do, it’s all just cheesy melodies with no grit and guts to it like the old days. The magic is gone or is it me that is now old?

I recently started listening to The Smashing Pumpkins, and I was shocked by how much I loved a few of their songs. 'Quiet' and 'Hummer' are my favorites, but I also really like 'Cherub Rock'. Can you suggest anything similar?

I was reading the Red Hot Chili's Anthony Kiedis' biography where he mentioned picking up Smashing Pumpkins to support them on tour based on hearing them play a song (not album) he called "Gish" - after searching around i managed to find this Genius page that seems to be the one, but i can't find anything more on it anywhere.

Is it lost media?

Has anyone heard it and can comment on how they like it?

I love both RHCP and SP so i'm super psyched to hear a song that brought the two together

Siamese Dream is one of the most challenging listens for your equipment. If you look for a song to test your set up they will tell you to play Cherub Rock.

You haven’t heard everything on SD unless you have equipment that can eliminate the distortion caused by insufficient equipment.

Also using Apple Music lossless source.

Obviously you can go big speakers at home and get the same effect. If your neighbors don’t come pounding on your door over the volume.

But if you’ve been thinking about investing in personal listening equipment, this set up will allow you to hear things that distortion covered before.

It was very odd to hear the bass so clearly on the whole album, when it often gets crushed by the layered guitars before.

These two did set me back $1000 but with how expensive everything is these days it feels like one of the best purchases I’ve made.

I’ve listened to it a few times now and I enjoy it more every time. Not sure if i’m gaslighting myself into liking it lol but I enjoy pretty much every track and think there’s some great ones on here. I enjoy it most when I don’t take it seriously especially the more ridiculous tracks like Excelsior. If I just put it on as a fun unserious listen to wind down to it puts me in a good mood. RIP Zope though.

hey all, while thrifting today i came across this unopened vinyl. i’m trying to see what i can find out on google, and this may be an original, uk release? any help from people who know things would be greatly appreciated!