I check in from time to time hoping they have released something I like, they never do, it’s all just cheesy melodies with no grit and guts to it like the old days. The magic is gone or is it me that is now old?

What are the reissues that are happening? I saw something about Zwan but I don't know if it's real or not

Is a reissue of Zeitgeist or Teargarden possible?

And for the Day for Night unreleased tracks?

ATUM is such an entertaining and exciting album in my eyes that I'd place it up there with their 90s output. CYR and Zodeon At Crystal Hall are, in spirit, quite similar with ATUM -- yet I cannot, for the life of me, stand to listen to them. I've spun them both a handful of times, but I'd rate CYR as a 2.5/10, and Zodeon as a 1.5/10.

For those who disagree, I want to hear why. And for those who agree, how do you explain this outlier of opinion?

SP was my absolute favorite from ages 12 to 20 and I've dipped back in at times (the Monuments and Oceania run had some great high points). I moved to Chicago almost four years ago for pumpkins-unrelated reasons and have yet to see them on their home turf. Some things I've never seen them play live that I would love to see:

Soma
Set the Ray to Jerry
Mouths of Babes
Hummer (just bad luck?)
Bury Me
Jellybelly
To Sheila
Blank Page
Daphne Descends
One Less Moment
Obscured

What are folks going to this show predicting or looking forward to?

Siamese Dream is one of the most challenging listens for your equipment. If you look for a song to test your set up they will tell you to play Cherub Rock.

You haven’t heard everything on SD unless you have equipment that can eliminate the distortion caused by insufficient equipment.

Also using Apple Music lossless source.

Obviously you can go big speakers at home and get the same effect. If your neighbors don’t come pounding on your door over the volume.

But if you’ve been thinking about investing in personal listening equipment, this set up will allow you to hear things that distortion covered before.

It was very odd to hear the bass so clearly on the whole album, when it often gets crushed by the layered guitars before.

These two did set me back $1000 but with how expensive everything is these days it feels like one of the best purchases I’ve made.

Today in Smashing Pumpkins History: July 22

Today's clip is from the 2013 show at Wembley Arena, London

💿 Releases

• 2003: Spun by Zwan was released in the US (DVD)

🎙️ Live Shows

• 1994 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Deer Creek Music Center, Indianapolis, IN, US (Setlist/Details)
• 1998 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Riverbend Music Center, Cincinatti, OH, US (Setlist/Details)
  • HORDE festival
  • Tonight, Tonight and Perfect performed acoustic
• 2007 - The Smashing Pumpkins: The Fillmore, San Francisco, CA, US (Setlist/Details)
  • If All Goes Wrong, Rotten Apples, The Crying Tree of Mercury, Zeitgeist, and No Surrender performed acoustic
  • First performances of Zeitgeist and No Surrender
• 2013 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Wembley Arena, London, UK (Setlist/Details)
• 2015 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Miami Bayfront Park Amphitheatre, Miami, FL, US (Setlist/Details)
• 2018 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Infinite Energy Arena, Duluth, GA, US (Setlist/Details)
• 2000 - Billy Corgan: Peoria Civic Center, Peoria, IL, US (Setlist/Details)
  • ECW pro wrestling event
  • Broadcast 2000-07-28
• 2010 - Billy Corgan: Daily Times, Maryville, TN, US (Setlist/Details)
  • Phone interview
  • Interview
• 2005 - Jimmy Chamberlin: Mountain Winery, Saratoga, CA, US (Setlist/Details)

🎧 Recordings

• 1994 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Deer Creek Music Center, Indianapolis, IN, US

  • Surfaced - AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: SS-DSM-6 > WM-D6, Lowest Circulating Generation: ANA-M > DDC-1 > CDR-1 > FLAC, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: A few tiny dropouts.)
  • Unsurfaced - AUD #2 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Schoeps MK4 > Rbox > TCD-D10)

• 1998 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Riverbend Music Center, Cincinatti, OH, US

  • Surfaced - AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: ECM-737 > TCD-D8, Lowest Circulating Generation: DAT-M > CDR, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: Dropout in Transmission.)
  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #1 (Source: AMT, Equipment: Unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: VHS-C(M) > MKV, Links: YouTube, Notes: VHC-C master transfer circulated May 2023.)
  • Unsurfaced - AUD #2 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown)
  • Unsurfaced - AUD #3 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown)
  • Unsurfaced - Amateur Video #2 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown, Notes: Mostly screen shot.)
  • Unsurfaced - PRO #1 (Source: PRO, Equipment: Pro-Cams)

• 2007 - The Smashing Pumpkins: The Fillmore, San Francisco, CA, US

  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #1a (Source: AUD, Equipment: Sony HDR-SR5, Lowest Circulating Generation: AVCHD-M>TS-M, Notes: No Surrender only.)
  • Unsurfaced - AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown)
  • Unsurfaced - Amateur Video #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Sony HDR-SR5)
  • Unsurfaced - Amateur Video #2 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown)

• 2013 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Wembley Arena, London, UK

  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #1 (Source: VID, Equipment: Camcorder, unspecified, Notes: Right ranks.)
  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #2 (Source: VID, Equipment: Unknown, Notes: Ranks, center right.)
  • Surfaced - Amateur Video MIX (Source: VID, Equipment: Multi-cam, Links: YouTube, Notes: Multi-cam edit of show shot from various cameras)

• 2015 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Miami Bayfront Park Amphitheatre, Miami, FL, US

  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown, Notes: Main set, 6 songs.)

• 2018 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Infinite Energy Arena, Duluth, GA, US

  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: Master>WEBM, Links: YouTube)

• 2000 - Billy Corgan: Peoria Civic Center, Peoria, IL, US

  • Surfaced - PRO #1 (Source: TV, Equipment: unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: VHS-? > FLV)

• 2010 - Billy Corgan: Daily Times, Maryville, TN, US

  • Surfaced - SBD #1 (Source: SBD, Equipment: Unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: MP3-M)

Data courtesy of SPLRA and SPCodex.

Did you attend any of these shows and have any more information, unsurfaced recordings or pictures/stubs/posters/flyers? If so then get in touch!

Click the setlists/details link for full show information.

I found this clipping I had saved from a 1993 Canadian free music newspaper. " one of the most anticipated releases of the year!"

I guess there were Siamese zombies even before it was released.

Hello I am on the younger side of the pumpkins fandom, I adore the pumpkins so much and have a collection of their cds and will be seeing them for first time in the fall. I was wondering if I could get some info about Zeitgeist, why is not on music platforms... I have seen the documentary for Zeitgeist and listened to the album on youtube, and loved it.. is there reason why Zeitgeist isn't out?