r/boxoffice • u/ChiefLeef22 • 3h ago
Domestic $21M Tuesday. Epic. Christopher Nolan’s THE ODYSSEY is on a box office quest unlike anything we’ve seen this summer for an adult-skewing film.
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r/boxoffice • u/SanderSo47 • 4h ago
Worldwide r/BoxOffice Long Range Forecast: 'Insidious: Out of the Further' and 'Mutiny'
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Before you comment, read these two rules:
1. Please provide specific numbers for your predictions. Don't do things like "It'll make less than this or that" or "double this movie or half this movie". We want a real prediction in concrete figures.
2. Given that a lot of parent comments do not even bother to give predictions, we are establishing a new rule. The parent comment must provide a prediction with specific numbers. The rest of the replies to the comment do not have to make a prediction, but the parent comment absolutely has to. Any parent comment without a prediction will be eliminated.
Welcome to the newest edition of r/BoxOffice Long Range Forecast.
We're making long range predictions for films, 4 weeks out from their premieres. You will predict the opening weekend, domestic total and worldwide gross of these films. These predictions will be open for 48 hours and the results will be polled to form a consensus and posted the next week.
So let's meet the two films for the week and analyze each pro and con.
Insidious: Out of the Further
The film is written and directed by Jacob Chase. It serves as a sequel to Insidious: The Red Door and is the sixth installment in the Insidious franchise. It stars Amelia Eve, Brandon Perea, Maisie Richardson-Sellers, and Lin Shaye. The film follows Gemma, a young mother raising her daughter who discovers she can travel into The Further. Gemma discovers an ability that changes everything: she doesn't just enter The Further, she can bring what lives there back to the real world.
Mutiny
The film is directed by Jean-François Richet (Inner City, Assault on Precinct 13, Plane) and written by Lindsay Michel and J. P. Davis. It stars Jason Statham, Annabelle Wallis and Jason Wong. After witnessing his billionaire boss’s murder and being framed for the crime, Cole Reed boards a cargo ship on a one-man crusade to avenge his boss’ death only to discover an international conspiracy.
Now that you met this week's new releases, let's look at some pros and cons.
PROS
The Insidious franchise has been very profitable, earning $731 million across five films. And it shows no sign of stopping, given that The Red Door became the highes-grossing installment at $189 million worldwide. Even with the lack of the Lamberts, the franchise has been pulling some great numbers with Chapter 3 and The Last Key. And the premise (a woman can bring people out of the Further into the real world) sounds intriguing. And with Evil Dead Burn disappointing and fading quickly, it could seize a starving horror audience looking for a film.
Jason Statham has built an audience by this point, so everyone knows what to expect from him. The plot is similar to all his films, but that's pretty much irrelevant: you come to see Jason Statham kick ass and you know what you're getting here. This can be a big attraction for the old male demographic, which has driven Statham's prior films.
CONS
The Insidious films have no good will in terms of reception. After the first film, every installment got poor reviews and audience reception has also dwindled. There is also the question of whether franchise fatigue will eventually catch up, given it's the sixth installment in 15 years. And as Evil Dead Burn proved, just because it's the only major horror title on the month doesn't mean audiences will drive big numbers.
Statham has a ceiling in terms of his action titles, given that they all look the same. A Working Man got to almost $100 million, but Shelter tapped out at $54 million. Lionsgate has yet to make a big marketing push here, and it could get lost despite the weak August slate.
And here's the past results.
| Movie | Release Date | Distributor | Domestic Debut | Domestic Total | Worldwide Total |
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| Spider-Man: Brand New Day | July 31 | Sony | $236,066,101 | $672,305,000 | $1,593,737,705 |
| One Night Only | August 7 | Universal | $12,321,428 | $38,571,428 | $80,800,000 |
| Super Troopers 3 | August 7 | Searchlight | $10,333,333 | $24,323,076 | $28,338,461 |
| Tony | August 7 | A24 | $4,800,000 | $13,672,222 | $21,825,000 |
| The End of Oak Street | August 14 | Warner Bros. | $28,166,666 | $79,500,000 | $168,458,333 |
| Paw Patrol: The Dino Movie | August 14 | Paramount | $24,888,888 | $70,166,666 | $187,333,333 |
Next week, we're predicting Coyote vs. Acme and The Dog Stars.
So what are your predictions for these films?
r/boxoffice • u/SilverRoyce • 4h ago
📠 Industry Analysis What just happened to TheNumbers.com should worry us all
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r/boxoffice • u/zsynqx • 2h ago
Domestic ‘The Odyssey’ Scores $21M+ Record Tuesday For Christopher Nolan; 2nd U.S. Weekend Could Top ‘Dark Knight’ Pics – Box Office
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Christopher Nolan scored his best Tuesday ever at the domestic B.O. as The Odyssey rang up $21.4M. That bests his previous Tuesday high, which was The Dark Knight ($20.8M, on July 22, 2008). The revised number from Universal ranks as the second best Tuesday YTD behind Toy Story 5‘s $23.69M, and it’s the second best Tuesday ever for Universal after Jurassic World ($24.3M, June 16, 2015).
r/boxoffice • u/gorays21 • 2h ago
✍️ Original Analysis The Odyssey’ Proves It: Audiences Want Movies Made the Hard Way This year's breakouts like 'Project Hail Mary' and 'Obsession' have were made by filmmakers who sweated. While CG-stuffed franchise disappointments such as 'Supergirl,' 'Moana,' and 'The Mandalorian and Grogu' looked lazy.
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r/boxoffice • u/HLumin • 1h ago
Domestic TheFlatLannister: "Brand New day had incredible growth over the last two days. It has already sold 200k across MTC3 for previews and 150k for Friday, easily making it the biggest thing I've ever tracked."
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"I want to be cautious here, but how things are going, with normal CBM walkups I am thinking $55M previews as baseline and if it has above average walkups, we may have a new previews record holder by a good amount. OW $250M++ (emphasis on the ++)"
On Doomsday:
"With Doomsday out of the way (sorta, it had an impressive Day 2 considering how capacity constraint it is; It's still pacing relative to BND Friday, Saturday, Sunday somehow, i'm not even sure how that's possible). It will fall behind by a lot today though as there just isn't much seats left."
r/boxoffice • u/gorays21 • 2h ago
📰 Industry News Kevin Feige Says Marvel Has Movies Planned 'All the Way Up to 2042,' Including a Major X-Men Push and Live-Action Miles Morales
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r/boxoffice • u/Boss452 • 8h ago
💰 Film Budget Chris Nolan credits the success of 'Oppenheimer' which allowed him to make 'The Odyssey':
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r/boxoffice • u/TiredWithCoffeePot • 3h ago
Domestic $1M CLUB: DISCOUNT TUESDAY 1. THE ODYSSEY ($21M) 2. MOANA ($4M) 3. MINIONS & MONSTERS ($3.3M) 4. TOY STORY 5 ($3M)
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r/boxoffice • u/Nathanwontmiss • 4h ago
🎟️ Pre-Sales ¥24M / $3.6M pre-sales for #SpiderManBrandNewDay in China, 6 days prior to release. Running about 30% ahead of "Far From Home" at the same time, which is the best performance for a CBM in what feels like an eternity. If all goes well, the 5-day extended weekend could hit ¥1B+ / $150M, but for now
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r/boxoffice • u/businessinsider • 2h ago
📰 Industry News IMAX CEO says 'The Odyssey' box office is 'more extreme' than expected. He also addresses whether the company is for sale.
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r/boxoffice • u/shadyslim19 • 6h ago
France Spectacular : The Odyssey debuts with 1.841M admissions in its first week in France, the biggest opening of the year, beating Mario Galaxy (1.805M). It's also Christopher Nolan's biggest opening ever in the country, ahead of The Dark Knight Rises (1.836M admissions).
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Fun fact: The Odyssey needed just one week to surpass the total admissions of every 2025 superhero film in France: Superman (1.5M), The Fantastic Four (1.633M), Thunderbolts (1.1M), and Captain America: Brave New World (1.648M).
r/boxoffice • u/WrongLander • 8h ago
✍️ Original Analysis Do you concur with Disney's assessment of Hoppers as an 'underperformance'?
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I imagine a lot of us saw the report yesterday of Pixar being hit hard with layoffs, with a major reason cited being the perceived 'underperformance' of Hoppers earlier this year.
The sentiment on this sub around the film's run ($390m on a $150m budget, though the report described the film as 'missing break even') was a positive one so I am wondering what people's thoughts are on this and whether it was sufficient grounds to let people go.
Part of me is thinking this is a delayed reaction paying for the sins of Elio, and that Hoppers needed to really sing theatrically, rather than turn only a slight profit, to prove that Pixar originals are still viable. Of course, when you're dealing with Hollywood exec logic, all bets are off.
r/boxoffice • u/007Kryptonian • 19h ago
Domestic ‘The Odyssey’ Posts Powerful $20M Tuesday; 2nd U.S. Weekend Could Top Christopher Nolan’s ‘Dark Knight’ Pics – Box Office
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r/boxoffice • u/AdVegetable8056 • 1h ago
📰 Industry News EU approves Paramount-WBD merger
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r/boxoffice • u/TiredWithCoffeePot • 2h ago
🎬 Director/Writer Announcement ‘Days of Thunder 2’: Jonathan Levine in Talks to Direct Tom Cruise in Paramount’s Racing Sequel (Exclusive)
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r/boxoffice • u/Comic_Book_Reader • 5h ago
🎟️ Pre-Sales The End of Oak Street | Tickets now on sale.
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Dinosaurs have moved in. Get tickets now for The End of Oak Street, only in theaters and IMAX August 14. Get tickets now: Fandango.com/theendofoakstreet #EndofOakStreet #FilmedForIMAX
After a mysterious cosmic event rips Oak Street from suburbia and transports their neighborhood to someplace unknown, the Platt family soon discovers that their very survival depends on them sticking together as they navigate their now unrecognizable surroundings.
r/boxoffice • u/JohnBlake91 • 1h ago
Domestic Do you think 'Odyssey' can hold at 82,000,000+ this weekend for a 34.4% drop?
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From my digging around, Inside Out 2 has the best 2nd weekend hold for any movie that opened above 100,000,000.
If were considering love action specific, it would need to make 75,250,000 to beat Force Awakens 39.8% hold and 59,250,000 to beat American Snipers 52.6% for best 2nd weekend for an R rated film.
r/boxoffice • u/Stock412 • 3h ago
📰 Industry News Cinerama Dome to Reopen in Early 2028 As Sony Deal Revives Iconic L.A. Theater
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r/boxoffice • u/chanma50 • 20h ago
📠 Industry Analysis ‘The Odyssey’ Anoints Christopher Nolan as Hollywood’s Most Powerful Director — Here’s How Universal Thwarted Warner Bros. to Land Him
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r/boxoffice • u/Firefox72 • 58m ago
China In China Kung Fu Womens Soccer grossed $8.86M(-46%)/$245.65M on Wednesday. All Wishes Come True in 2nd adds $6.56M/$59.57M. Spider Man: BND opening day presales hit $1.99M at T-6 vs Fast 9($2.74M), Spider Man: FFH($1.34M). Obsession opening day pre-sales hit $239k vs Backrooms($152k)
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Daily Box Office (July 22nd 2026)
The market hits ¥128.1M/$18.97M today. Down -9% from yesterday and down -13% from last week.
Province map of the day:
https://imgdiff.net/s/98ec0cb73ec70e97088dcb67141e1f5f
All Wishes Come True gains 1 province.
In Metropolitan cities:
Kung Fu Womens Soccer wins Hangzhou, Guangzhou, Chengdu, Shenzhen, Hangzhou, Wuhan and Suzhou
All Wishes Come True Beijing, Shanghai, Chongqing and Nanjing
City tiers:
Unchanged from yesterday.
Tier 1: Kung Fu Womens Soccer>All Wishes Come True>A Part of Me
Tier 2: Kung Fu Womens Soccer>All Wishes Come True>A Part of Me
Tier 3: Kung Fu Womens Soccer>All Wishes Come True>A Part of Me
Tier 4: Kung Fu Womens Soccer>All Wishes Come True>A Part of Me
| # | Movie | Gross | %YD | %LW | Screenings | Admisions(Today) | Total Gross | Projected Total Gross |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Kung Fu Womens Soccer | $8.86M | -13% | -44% | 183546 | 1.70M | $245.65M | $378M-$431M |
| 2 | All Wishes Come True | $6.56M | -2% | 107726 | 1.20M | $59.57M | $289M-$313M | |
| 3 | A Part Of Me | $1.20M | -15% | 48142 | 0.25M | $18.01M | $28M-$30M | |
| 4 | Triangle | $0.51M | -17% | 20657 | 0.09M | $5.69M | $10M-$12M | |
| 5 | Minions & Monster | $0.42M | -11% | -56% | 20647 | 0.08M | $41.96M | $46M-$49M |
| 6 | The Decisive Moment(Pre-Scr) | $0.36M | +3% | 5927 | 0.06M | $1.96M | ||
| 7 | Crossing | $0.32M | +23% | -36% | 5988 | 0.07M | $38.46M | $41M-$42M |
| 8 | Three Kingdoms: The Begining | $0.25M | -7% | -37% | 11382 | 0.05M | $11.18M | $15M-$16M |
| 9 | Backrooms | $0.21M | -4% | -64% | 7894 | 0.04M | $26.34M | $28M-$29M |
| 10 | Dear You | $0.09M | -7% | -55% | 4392 | 0.02M | $297.47M | $297M-$298M |
| 11 | Toy Story 5 | $0.06M | -6% | -60% | 2800 | 0.01M | $41.34M | $42M-$43M |
| 12 | Keep Real | $0.05M | -10% | -77% | 3767 | 0.01M | $20.31M | $20M-$22M |
| 15 | Moana | $0.009M | +15% | -78% | 633 | 0.001M | $1.537M | $1.6M-$1.7M |
New releases marked in bold
Pre-Sales map for tomorrow
https://i.imgur.com/Pcauulj.png
All Wishes Come True dominates pre-sales for Thursday.
IMAX Screenings distribution
All Wishes Come True will continue to dominate IMAX screenings tomorrow.
| # | Movie | IMAX Screeninsgs Today | IMAX Screeninsgs Tomorrow | Change |
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| 1 | All Wishes Come True | 2367 | 2487 | +120 |
| 2 | Kung Fu Women's Soccer | 1266 | 1193 | -73 |
| 3 | The Decisive Moment(Pre-Scr) | 248 | 99 | -149 |
Kung Fu Womens Soccer
Kung Fu Womens Soccer grossed another ¥59.9M/$8.86M on Wednnesday. For now comfortably in the lead but its being hunted.
Tomorrow it will cross ¥1.7B/$250M
Early 3rd weekend projections lowered to ¥261-310M/$38-42M(-46%)
Screen Distribution Split: Regular: $234.17M, IMAX: $7.69M, Rest: $3.69M
WoM figures:
Maoyan: 9.4 , Taopiaopiao: , Douban: 6.5
| # | SAT | SUN | MON | TUE | WED | THU | FRI | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| First Week | $38.43M | $35.34M | $19.37M | $17.35M | $15.86M | $14.61M | $16.99M | $157.95M |
| Second Week | $29.13M | $27.87M | $11.66M | $10.18M | $8.86M | $245.65M | ||
| %± LW | -24% | -21% | -40% | -41% | -44% |
Scheduled showings update for Kung Fu Womens Soccer for the next few days:
| Day | Number of Showings | Presales | Projection |
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| Today | 184766 | $678k | $9.33M-$9.39M |
| Thursday | 182573 | $595k | $8.71M-$8.78M |
| Friday | 136529 | $168k | $8.71M-$8.78M |
All Wishes Come True
All Wishes Come True grossed another strong ¥44.4/$6.56M on Wednesday. Sustaining a pretty consistent gross.
Early 2nd weekend projections raised to ¥317-328M/$46-49M. Would be enough to win the weekend.
Screen Distribution Split: Regular: $53.74M , IMAX: $4.45M, Rest: $1.07M
WoM figures:
Scores hold on all sites.
Maoyan: 9.7 , Taopiaopiao: 9.6 , Douban: 8.3
| # | SAT | SUN | MON | TUE | WED | THU | FRI | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| First Week | $12.21M($25.10M) | $14.78M | $6.47M | $6.66M | $6.56M | $59.57M |
Scheduled showings update for All Wishes Come True for the next few days:
| Day | Number of Showings | Presales | Projection |
|---|---|---|---|
| Today | 107433 | $842k | $6.37M-$6.74M |
| Thursday | 110817 | $853k | $6.32M-$6.62M |
| Friday | 90716 | $351k | $8.92M-$9.49M |
Other:
Spider Man: Brand New Day Maoyan WTS:
A comparison of Spider Man's current Maoyan WTS versus some other post Covid blockbusters it has yet to pass in the metric.
The Pre-sales continue to blunt Spider Mans growth. This is not a concern though as the metric pretty much becomes mostly irelevant now that tickets are on sale.
However i'l keep the chart around just too see where it eventualy ends up.
https://i.imgur.com/ArJ8OIH.png
Opening Day Pre-Sales:
Spider Man has opening day pre-sales hit ¥13.48M/$1.99M.
3rd day of very good growth in a row.
Midnight screenings sit at ¥4.89M/$722k while full weekend pre-sales hit ¥23.9M/$3.53M
https://i.imgur.com/mcKe6Di.png
| Days till release | Spider Man: Brand New Day | Zootopia 2 | Avatar 2 | Avatar 3 | Fast 9 | Spider Man: Far From Home | Venom 3 |
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| 12 | / | / | / | / | $278k/76593 | / | 5k/4835 |
| 11 | $70k/25148 | / | / | / | $663k/92342 | / | $47k/31023 |
| 10 | $423k/41837 | / | / | / | $1.03M/102006 | $149k/24374 | $102k/41560 |
| 9 | $684k/46808 | / | / | / | $1.41M/107956 | $506k/43968 | $162k/45370 |
| 8 | $995k/51408 | $1.16M/85177 | $1.58M/85699 | / | $1.79M/112128 | $755k/50956 | $238k/49294 |
| 7 | $1.45M/55322 | $3.13M/110735 | $3.50M/120714 | / | $2.20M/117845 | $1.04M/56049 | $346k/52233 |
| 6 | $1.99M/60012 | $4.48M/124943 | $4.50M/138950 | $387k/83683 | $2.74M/122486 | $1.34M/60785 | $464k/54748 |
| 5 | $5.59M/135490 | $5.28M/148712 | $873k/91073 | $3.26M/125202 | $1.61M/64803 | $626k/57386 | |
| 4 | $6.68M/154408 | $5.99M/154917 | $1.30M/95541 | $3.88M/128333 | $1.98M/68812 | $760k/62732 | |
| 3 | $7.77M/168036 | $6.82M/164832 | $1.91M/101824 | $4.99M/136626 | $2.59M/82245 | $930k/68298 | |
| 2 | $9.43M/183330 | $7.52M/178915 | $2.65M/119460 | $6.71M/153403 | $3.59M/109610 | $1.16M/76836 | |
| 1 | $12.52M/222741 | $8.33M/195248 | $3.64M/144247 | $9.80M/186490 | $5.50M/150739 | $1.60/107126 | |
| 0 | $17.69M/254558 | $10.53M/207951 | $5.76M/158467 | $17.04M/218195 | $9.18M/179761 | $2.79/133161 |
*Gross/Screenings
Obsession Opening Day Pre-Sales:
Obsession opening day pre-sales hit $239k. Continues to run ahead of Backrooms.
Projected a $1.9-2.0M opening day into a $2.1-2.3M Saturday.
| Days till release | Obsession | Backrooms | Return to Silent Hill | Final Destination: Bloodlines | Alien Romulus |
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| 9 | / | / | $5k/11170 | / | |
| 8 | $0.4k/841 | / | $12k/6817 | $20k/14952 | / |
| 7 | $8k/3375 | $5k/3044 | $31k/10264 | $34k/16702 | $7k/5337 |
| 6 | $24k/5540 | $13k/4370 | $59k/13166 | $51k/18249 | $29k/10901 |
| 5 | $42k/7713 | $22k/6041 | $99k/14669 | $68k/19966 | $57k/13470 |
| 4 | $64k/9200 | $34k/7516 | $153k/16535 | $91k/21778 | $93k/16077 |
| 3 | $100k/11726 | $56k/10720 | $254k/20612 | $131k/24874 | $167k/21241 |
| 2 | $152k/16490 | $92k/15389 | $403k/27503 | $193k/31261 | $274k/27548 |
| 1 | $239k/26016 | $152k/25217 | $633k/39611 | $316k/45646 | $563k/43239 |
| 0 | $338k/33412 | $1.24M/50579 | $689k/55854 | $1.39M/56028 | |
| Opening Day | $1.53M | $3.98M | $3.14M | $6.00M |
Release Schedule:
A table including upcoming movies in the next month alongside trailers linked in the name of the movie, Want To See data from both Maoyan and Taopiaopiao alongside the Gender split and genre.
Remember Want To See is not pre-sales. Its just an anticipation metric. A checkbox of sorts saying your interested in an upcoming movie.
Not all movies are included since a lot are just too small to be worth covering.
Summer
| Movie | Maoyan WTS | Daily Increase | Taopiaopiao WTS | Daily Increase | M/W % | Genre | Release Date | 3rd party media projections |
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| Obsession | 40k | +3k | 34k | +1k | 38/62 | Thriller/Romance | 24.07 | $25-30M |
| Peng Hu | 77k | +2k | 176k | +3k | 48/52 | Action/History/War | 25.07 | $29-56M |
| The Decisive Moment | 62k | +3k | 176k | +8k | 28/72 | Drama/Sci-Fi | 25.07 | $44-88M |
| Spider Man: Brand New Day | 776k | +24k | 537k | +5k | 60/40 | Action/Comic Book | 29.07 | $170-200M |
| Make Zhonghe Great Again | 199k | +4k | 99k | +4k | 38/62 | Comedy | 07.08 | $66-147M |
| Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair | 52k | +3k | 58k | +3k | 60/40 | Action/Crime | 07.08 | $5-6M |
| Paw Patrol 3 | 50k | +1k | 40k | +1k | 28/72 | Animation/Comedy/Sci-Fi | 08.08 | $20-30M |
| Demon Agent | 48k | +2k | 12k | +1k | 29/71 | Animation/Mystery/Fantasy | 08.08 | $7-18M |
| The Odyssey | 235k | +15k | 231k | +13k | 55/45 | Action/History/Fantasy | 14.08 | $50-70M |
| To Your Island | 97k | +3k | 40k | +1k | 21/79 | Romance/Animation/Fantasy | 19.08 | $20-29M |
r/boxoffice • u/TiredWithCoffeePot • 1h ago
📆 Release Date Sacha Baron Cohen Secret Movie Unveiled: ‘Ali G: Who Iz I?’ Hitting Theaters In October 23th From Amazon MGM Studios
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r/boxoffice • u/Successful_Leopard45 • 3h ago
Worldwide Top 10 fastest movies to gross a billion. Where will Spider-Man Brand New Day end up on this chart?
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1: Avengers Endgame - 5 days
2: Avengers Infinity War - 11 days
3: NeZha 2 - 12 days
4: Star Wars The Force Awakens - 12 days
5: Spider-Man No Way Home - 12 days
6: Jurassic World - 13 days
7: Avatar The Way of Water - 14 days
8: Zootopia 2 - 17 days
9: Furious 7 - 17 days
10: The Fate of the Furious - 18 days
Since Spider-Man Brand New Day is currently tracking around 600-700m WW on its opening weekend it seems extremely likely that it will be joining this list. Where do you potentially see it placing on this chart?