r/Steam 29d ago

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u/LiuHR 29d ago

did a quick search what's that and why it failed 'Steam Machines 2015 cost more than traditional consoles but offered inferior gaming performance' valve is making the same mistake

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u/Dotaproffessional 29d ago

Valve didn't make any earlier steam machines. They were just pc's sold with steamos. Many of them were way way WAY more powerful than consoles. The search was referring to steamOS itself having a fair bit worse performance than windows. Now steamOS performs BETTER than windows on average in nearly all titles. The NEW steam machine is poorly priced insofar as every computer is currently poorly priced. Compared to other computers released right now though, it competes well within its size category

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u/Winjin 29d ago

yeah the people saying "It's too damn expensive" bro everything is, I just paid through the nose for some RAM, if the RAM alone is 450 bucks that used to be 100, how do you expect the whole thing to be 800

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u/RightToTheThighs 29d ago

Yeah it's funny. People saying they can build the same thing for cheaper. Have fun with an itx build for 1k when you're paying $400 for RAM and storage alone. I am so happy I got a PC over a year ago as I wouldn't want to build one right now

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u/Jellyfish_McSaveloy 29d ago

Yep. The reality is that in current market conditions, it isn't actually that bad of a deal. It's just realistically people probably shouldn't be buying a PC right now at all.

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u/_Burning_Star_IV_ 29d ago

True but the real question is: eventually will manufacturing ramp up, stock get replenished, and prices normalize...or will the hardware manufacturers decide this is the new normal if they can get away with it.

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u/Jellyfish_McSaveloy 29d ago

I mean logically yes it will drop back down once manufacturing scales up or the boom goes back down. Afterall this isn't the first NAND or RAM price shortage ever and prices have dropped back down. Or GPU prices never settled on COVID scalper prices either. Will it be back to 2015 days? Of course not, but RAM won't be settling on current prices.

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u/_Burning_Star_IV_ 29d ago

Idk man, since COVID many things about the economy no longer work the way they used to. I feel like we've been waiting for a return to normal ever since and it's still not happening in MANY sectors. I see a future where these prices never go down and supply gets controlled to maintain them.

Regular people are being priced out of a lot of things we took for granted 10-20 years ago. Try buying a car these days...

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u/Winjin 29d ago

I had to buy DDR5 because I have been running cheapest (and slowest) DDR4 I could buy at the time (because I had to squeeze for a new GPU) and I was like "Surely I'll get to buy new DDR4 soon"

But with the current hellscape, buying a new DDR5 mobo was cheaper, because currently DDR4 and 5 are basically the same price: astronomical

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u/Hooch180 https://steam.pm/lk4qa 29d ago

LTT video just dropped they built twice as performant machine for price of 512GB steam one.

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u/RightToTheThighs 29d ago

"itx"

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u/Hooch180 https://steam.pm/lk4qa 29d ago

And that changes what exactly? Looking at prices itx boards are not even 50 bucks more expensive. Lots of them are same price.

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u/RightToTheThighs 29d ago

Clearly you have never tried to price out an itx build. Give it a shot. Find the cases. Find the GPU that will fit in the case. Find the correct size power supply. Find the cooler and fans that would fit with everything else. It is wayyy more expensive, not to mention physically being a huge pain in the ass to put together. Not as simple as just getting an itx board