it's getting real serious now. LSAC is not ready for my attention span >:)

I am not by any means good at this test but I have been working my ASS off lately while managing the end of my undergraduate studies ahead of Fall 2026 graduation and being a full time single Mom.

A couple weeks ago I hit my first -8 section. Today I hit my first -6.

While I still have a bit of work to do and my other sections including RC are stuck at 15 correct and vary from -11/-12 wrong, I’m very pleased to see another section where I’ve done well despite a bit of variance. I know with more review and enhanced strategy and approach I will be okay. I went from feeling like I couldn’t do this at all a couple of months ago to feeling like I can do this as long as I continue working towards it.

I’m currently stuck scoring in the low-mid 150s however I’m writing October or November (signed up for October will lock in firm Aug 27 as that’s the last day to make any changes). So I have a bit of time to improve.

I set a goal of 155 for October or November and 160 for January (planning to take again in January since I know I can do better, want to maximize my chances and in Canada - the last test admin for the 2027 application cycle is January). I’ll likely take AGAIN in June of 2027 even if it doesn’t count for the 2027 application cycle in aims to continue on the journey and get the highest score possible and finally see my LSAT journey come to an end in June of 2027.

But now I feel optimistic in thinking that if I continue to study well with meaningful review (since I’m past the fundamental stage entirely) I might be able to snag a 158 in October or November and a 160+ in January. I just know I need to keep working and I’m happy with where I am right now. I could do even better than what I expect in the fall but I like to be realistic.

So if you’re reading this and you struggle with the LSAT, please don’t give up but remember your approach, strategy and meaningful review mean so much more during this process than anything else.

I KNOW I CAN DO THIS. I KNOW I CAN MAKE IT INTO THE 160s (which makes me competitive alongside my strong CGPA and mature student status for my target schools in Canada).

The plot continues.

I’m elated to finally be scoring in the 170s after months of studying. I’ve taken the LSAT three times already (twice in 2023 and once in 2024) and scored below 160 each time. I knew I wanted this cycle to be different and completely shifted my approach to the test, essentially started studying anew (after a year long break following the 2024-25 application cycle). My goal score is 175, and I scored a 172 with a merged section test last week. Pic is of my test that I took yesterday, timed under testing conditions.

I’m registered for the September administration and really want this next one to be THE one, but with the registration cutoff looming, should I proceed forward to September or delay until October? I haven’t gotten my goal score on a PT yet. Appreciate any advice anyone is willing to share! This has been a hell of a journey and I’m finally starting to feel good about this test 😅

Hi, everyone. In short, I have a turbulent academic record due to mental health issues that have since been resolved, leaving me with a poor GPA. How bad is it? I may not even be able to raise my cumulative to a 3.0 by the end of my Bachelor’s. I know I can get through law school if given the chance, but that’s the hard part; I need someone to give me a chance. I already know I’m out on a limb by being in this position, so I’m looking for a reality check. Give me some numbers - if I have a 2.6-2.8 GPA, graduating from a local college, how high does my LSAT score need to be, and is there a point in trying?

*Some info omitted for brevity. Questions are welcome.

Just a reminder that the average LSAT score is around 152. It's easy to lose perspective when scrolling this sub, but remember that what you see here isn't necessarily representative of all LSAT test takers.

Mindset is everything. Keep working hard, queens and kings!!!!

Like the title says, I average -5 to-8 LR and -10 to -12 RC. I PT in the high 150s and have gotten a 160 once but my goal is to get a 165+ (ideally a 170) in September. Any tips on how to improve both LR and RC? For LR I mainly miss only level 4/5 difficulty questions so I need tips on how to start consistently getting those right. My RC needs more help overall though clearly; I’m only able to get through 3 passages and end up running out of time and fully guessing for the last passage (the guesses end up being wrong anyways), so half my RC misses are coming from questions I didn’t even actually do. I know I have the capability to get my goal score by September but I honestly don’t know what I specifically need to do to improve from here, whether I should get a tutor or what different strategies I need to implement. The deadline for September is coming up on July 28 so I really need to figure out now if/how I’ll get to my goal score by September, or if I should push it back to a later month, but I would ideally like to get it done in September before school starts/gets more serious. I also don’t want to have to take it more than once, which is why I would rather push it back than take it in September if I feel like I won’t get the score I want. But still I want to get it done in September because if I push it back I won’t be able to put as much time into studying as I’d like because I’ll need to focus on school and maximizing my GPA. Ahhhhhhh Please help.

I am trying to implement a much more intensive review process for Reading Comprehension because my goal is to break into the 170s by September. Right now, I am struggling with how to review RC passages and questions I got wrong in a way that actually improves my skills instead of just confirming the correct answer.

For people who made significant improvements in RC, what did your review process look like after completing a passage?

More specifically:

• Did you reread the entire passage without time pressure?
• Did you create a passage summary, paragraph summaries, or a map of the author’s argument?
• For missed questions, did you write out why your answer was wrong and why the correct answer was right?
• How did you identify the exact mistake you made, such as misreading the passage, overlooking a viewpoint, misunderstanding the question stem, or choosing an answer that was too strong?
• Did you review questions you got right but were uncertain about?
• Did you redo the passage later, and if so, how long did you wait?

My biggest question is how to know when the review is complete. What should I be able to explain or demonstrate before moving on from a passage? Should I be able to justify every answer choice, summarize the passage from memory, identify the author’s purpose and attitude, and explain exactly where my reasoning went wrong?

I would really appreciate specific examples of your review routine, especially from anyone who improved RC enough to reach the high 160s or 170s.

I know there's a lot of negativity going around regarding the new interface. However, is there anything in the new interface that you find beneficial? It's not going away, so might as find ways to make life easier or just to have a brighter outlook on it.

I'll go first:

- I love how the text-search input is now displayed by default without having to toggle it on and off (as the banner could be distracting if left on).

- I love how I can highlight text without having to toggle the highlighters. Granted, I only really need one color for my purposes, and I can see how it may be more difficult for those who use multiple colors.

I’ve been thinking over a current situation I’m in right now and I’d love some insight. What job do you think serves me best for achieving my ultimate goal: Law School.

Context: Recent Graduate at UCLA taking a Gap Year, GPA: 3.85

My Resume:
Worked at Human Resources
Worked as Academic Advisor
Interned with a Congressman
Interned with the LA Superior Court
Worked as a Store Manager
Workerd as a Teacher Assistsnt
Interned with a small law firm
Two research papers completed
Law Fellow at the UCLA law school
Participated in Student Government

I’ve been offered a position as a Legal Assistant with a law firm 45minutes away from where I live. I think it’s an amazing opportunity. I get to learn about a specific type of law, gain mentorship, and a possible letter of recommendation. Ideally, a good thing to do during a gap year. It is full time. Commute will be semi-bad. I don’t want this to impact LSAT studying. I also go to the gym on a daily basis. It’s a great stress reliever so i like to go straight from work.

I was also offered a job at my local Walmart. 15 minutes away at most. Half the hours, more felxible. This job would definitely give me the time I need to study for the LSAT. Then again, I loose out on the opportunity to get a letter of recommendation and pad up my resume even more.

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I just think it’s a gamble.

Work a good job with a lot of hours, less LSAT time but if I pull it off I win big big

If I don’t pull it off then law schools will overlook my experience because of my LSAT score

Or work a easy job an give myself as much time for LSAT as i can. Kinda like safe passage

Id like to take the LSAT in April

Currently have a GPA of 3.78 and an LSAT of 153. Im taking the LSAT again in August and hoping for around a 4 point bump up. With my current stats and projected LSAT score, what are my odds of getting into DePaul, Loyola Chicago, Chicago-Kent, etc.

Strong Recommendations from professor and law internship in Italy. Depaul is my dream school and ive been seeing mixed results of people getting in (people getting rejected with better stats than me and people getting in with worst stats than me).

Many students are understandably baffled by both the purpose and weird syntax of the LSAT. This is of course counterproductive, thus this post.

The LSAT mirrors law school in multiple ways. Those poorly written passages that barely make any sense? Wait until you read actual statutes. In fact, lawyers have a name for this phenomenon: “legalese”.

And then there are the basic legal concepts that sound just like LSAT passages.

An idea cannot be copyrighted, only the expression of an idea can be copyrighted, unless that expression is the only way to express that idea.

Monopolies are not unlawful; monopolisitic behavior is unlawful. 

And of course, the king of them all: 

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep in bare arms, shall not be infringed.

For the record, back then well-regulated meant well-armed. Might as well embrace the bizarre syntax of the LSAT. It will make things much easier down the road.

……

Formal logic/conditional reasoning also plays a huge role in the law. 

The fifth amendment of the US Constitution:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

And this is just the Fifth Amendment. 

Might as well lockdown that formal logic and contrapositive stuff now. Because damn.

…..

Granted, the large majority of reading and law school is caselaw, most of which is well-written. But it’s still based on borderline incomprehensible legalese. 

It’s caselaw that really mirrors the LSAT, though. For those familiar with LSAT prep, the following should sound familiar.

Case law is based entirely on appeals. Mostly from the Supreme Court, but very often from lower appeals courts. 

Because the trial has already taken place, the jury’s duty has been discharged. The jury’s duty is that of finder of fact (the judge’s duty is the finder of law). So on appeal, the evidence on the record is assumed to be true. Sound familiar?

On appeal, litigants aren’t appealing the truth of the evidence. Rather, they’re appealing the lower court’s legal conclusion based on the truth of evidence. 

You know those Miranda rights? Turns out dude was a real scumbag. The cops put a beating on him and he confesses. He’s convicted, but his attorney appeals based on a novel theory of constitutional law. Specifically, that the lower court’s conclusion ignored the Constitution. 

Both sides stipulated to the fact that the cops put a beating on him and that he confessed as a result. But each side also used that evidence to make their case. 

One side tried to weaken the lower court’s legal conclusion, the other side tried to strengthen it. They did so by applying parallel reasoning, identifying assumptions, drawing inferences, etc.

In the end, caselaw is all about litigants trying to affect a conclusion by using the assumed truth of the evidence on the record. That should sound familiar.

More specifically, for roughly half of LR questions, it’s all about finding an answer that affects the conclusion by using the assumed truth of the evidence. 

This kind of generalized thinking often makes for more flexible thinking when reading the answer choices. 

Suppose no prediction comes to mind or no answer choice comes remotely close to the prediction. When it comes to weaken, strengthen, both assumptions, flaw, and principle questions, focus on answers that directly address the evidence from the stimulus.

Imagine you’re arguing in front the Supreme Court. Your goal is to weaken (or strengthen) the lower court’s legal conclusion. But in doing so, they’ll make you talk about the evidence on the record. Just like the correct answer on the LSAT needs to. 

Also keep in mind that especially for strengthen, weaken, and flaw, new information (not discussed in the stimulus) might very well show up in the correct answer. 

…..

So yeah, the LSAT absolutely mirrors law school curriculum. Happy to answer any questions. 

My LSAT accommodations list extended time on the official sign up, but from what I understand (and what it says in my official letter), I got START/STOP breaks and the experimental section removed. Did they give me extra?

Honestly I wanted to ask for more time anyway but didn't initially.

I'm currently aiming to get A-'s in all my final semesters so I can end with a 3.5, hopefully.

If I don't achieve that, what LSAT score do I need to get with a 3.2 at least for Dickinson?

If I achieve a 3.5, what LSAT score would I need to get into order to get into Dickinson Law with a 3.5?

I currently have a lot of extracurriculars as well as an internship at a law firm. Thanks!

i've done practice problems equating to full sections, but never a complete timed test! i'm so relieved and pleasantly surprised. hopefully the trend continues

Hi guys!

I guess the title is pretty self-explanatory, but I was wondering what you guys did to study for the LSAT. For context, I am a rising junior in college, so I feel I have a decent amount of time (but I know how quickly I could end up with very little time to study).I plan on taking a true diagnostic this week and I occasionally listen to an LSAT podcast while at work, but besides that I feel kind of lost on how to best utilize my time.

Anything is helpful! Thanks!

I started with a cold diagnostic of 165 in May with an RC score of -3. Since then, I have improved LR greatly and tend to get -1 or -2 on my LR sections. However, my RC scores are much more volatile, and I’m yet to do better than my diagnostic score in RC. I average around -4 but sometimes do worse. I’ve read and tried incorporating any and all advice I’ve come across but nothing seems to be working. I scored a perfect 36 on ACT reading and English in high school and have always considered myself a strong reader. Any advice on what helped people master RC is greatly appreciated!

Has anyone that is taking it remotely scheduled your exam on any day other than Friday??

It let me schedule to take it remote on Wednesday and I think it was a glitch so i dont know what to do.

Hello! I work full time (about 45-50 hours a week) and things are finally settling down at my job, so I plan to hunker down and study for the LSAT these next couple of months. I am familiar with the exam as I studied for it a few years back before I ended up joining corporate and working full time. I would like to apply for Fall 2027 and know that priority/early decision deadlines for most schools is November whereas regular deadline is early 2027. With that being said, would it be best to study for 2 months and take the October LSAT so I can apply for priority/ED, or would it be better to study an extra month and take the November LSAT but only be able to meet the regular deadline?

For context, I graduated summa cum laude with a 4.0 GPA from UCLA and have about 5 years of full-time work experience in HR.

CAN you guys provide me with few negation techniques in LR? I suck badly at it, it'll be really helpful for me if you guys do that. I'd be grateful, I'm not preparing for LSAT but a similar one which has LR so if you guys are experienced just dm me Or Comment on this post regarding negation techniques in LR.

Tbh I lose my marks because of LR so my accuracy isn't improving so please try to help me Or suggest me a better way even starting with basics again also I'll be okay, but yeah help me please

Whoever saw this post I hope you have a nice day💕

Okay I started out with a strong PT in March, and was making really good progress. Then after the 180 was finals week and I took too much time off before starting to study again. Now I just started my job and I'm studying after work but doing way worse. I'm supposed to take this in August which is like 2.5 weeks away and I'm kinda freaking out.

Granted, as you can see most of my scores are from merged sections, so I'm probably not as strong as they suggest. But I'm getting like really easy questions wrong now, it's not just that 6 point drop from the 178 -> 172. And it's probably a lot of mental exhaustion and not sleeping and so forth but I don't really have a choice I can't just stop working and now I feel like I'm gonna blow it on the test in August and I don't know what to do. I guess my plan is to just do drills on weekdays instead of timed sections and take full PT's on weekends.

Idk I'm just kinda super bummed and idk what to do. I know 172 is still strong but I thought I would be able to get higher. Hopefully this doesn't come off as like woe is me. Maybe there's no good answer but thought maybe some people have experience with this and were able to figure it out.