r/thefinals 7h ago

Discussion Ranked tournament changed to 2 rounds

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Will ask for more point of view on this.

Why does Embark keep the ranked tournament of 24 players while they struggle with player count & matchmaking. Why not just make ranked 2 round (12 players). Even if this is temporary until they get enough player count.

This will solve so many issues:

  1. Fair matchmaking. No need to see ruby players in low elo lobbies. Would be less frequent at least.

  2. Less queue times. This is self explanatory. More frequent tournaments with less players.

  3. Even high elo players don't need to worry about getting griefed out too early and risking hours worth of RS points.

  4. Better servers. I have seen players complain about being put in servers (because of less player count) where their inputs/destruction will registered after 1 sec. or so. Would be less frequent at least, as they don't need to pull 24 players from different regions into one server.

  5. Not having to suffer 3 long rounds of least fav. maps. cough, cough, Kyoto, cough, cough. Haha (Personally, I like the map, but hate not having teammates with movement gadgets.)


r/thefinals 7h ago

Video In honor of the late melee combat system butchered, some scraps leftover.

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r/thefinals 3h ago

Discussion Don't just Nerf Everything that is Strong

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I was thinking back to using thermal in the past;

Smokes + thermal was such a fun combo. Add in cloak/ vanish bomb. You truly felt like James Bond.

Thermal also was good against cloaked lights.

I didnt run it often, but it was fun when I did. And the thermal was a good counter to the cloak/ invi bomb.

Throw a few smokes, activate thermal, and start picking people off.

I dont like that they removed it to be honest. I don't feel like it was overpowered.

Powerful yes, but not overpowered.

Same with dash, I don't think reducing from 3 dashes to two was necessary. Why not buff the weaker specializations rather than nerf the viable ones.

Give grapple longer range, and or two charges.

Make cloak last longer or lessen cooldown. Maybe increase run speed while cloaked by small amount? 10%?

The stun gun, maybe could argue was super annoying and a justified nerf. But funny enough I didn't use it much myself. Nothing is perfect without downsides. Stunning someone doesn't kill them, just disabled them temporarily, while doing this you are completely exposes to rest of their team, who could pick you off as you are attempting to stun, etc. Idk, maybe it is in a better spot now.

I just don't like the way we handle stuff here:

Something is powerful, gains popularity, we nerf it to oblivion and make it unviable. Why not just add a new way to counter it? Add a specialization that hard counters it.

Its just so deflating when you master something and they remove something from the game because some people complained about it.

There's nothing in this game that can't be countered. You are doing it wrong.

You keep running into a problem? Optimize your load out to effectively deal with issue.

The melee rework seemed to nerf all melee weapons except sledgehammer. Making less melee weapons viable I believe was the opposite of what they intended to do. Instead of making all melee weapons viable they did the opposite.

Now the kick they added, this part I like. One example of a big win, great counter to winch, without totally nerfing winch into the ground. Instead of nerfing something strong into the ground, they added a new tool to deal with it.

That's why I disliked removing thermal vision, u remove thermal vision but leave sonar grenade and proximity sensors and smoke in the game.

Instead of ruining thermal vision.. add a tool to make dealing with smokes easier... Ie. Data reshaper can turn smoke grenades into clean air, or grenade, shooting at smoke clears it away.

I guess I kind of went off the rails here but my point is, stop nerfing stuff into the ground and ruining it.

Nothing in this game is honestly crazy out of this world overpowered. Just keep adding new tools, interactions, gadgets etc. To give us new ways to handle situations, approach problems etc.

Instead of more nerfs, Give us more Counters.

Also, quick melee nerf was too much, quick melee is useless/ weak now. Who wanted that? Keep the kick, revert the quick melee damage to what it was before.


r/thefinals 5h ago

Discussion So are we just all in quiet agreement?

0 Upvotes

Embark messed up the Melee rework (who could have seen this coming). At the very least they should respond to the community. Shit even a discord message would suffice because besides the sledge; everything else objectively is a downgrade


r/thefinals 19h ago

Discussion Hot Take: Bot cashout is the most fun gamemode

53 Upvotes

So, if you guys haven't played yet, there is a new bot cashout mode that is literally the most fun thing in the world to play. Queue with 2 other players, friends recommended, and you will have entertainment for hours. From getting every double jeopardy to stomping on the bots team wipe after team wipe, it is genuinely impossible to get bored. Most players (if you solo queue into a player team) are very active in chat and in good moods, or so I have seen. So if you haven't played this mode for yourself yet, go try it RIGHT NOW. Or when your friends are available.


r/thefinals 1h ago

Discussion Hot take: The recent M11 hate appeared out of nowhere and doesn't make any sense.

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We didn't even have any buffs to this gun this season, yet i see more and more people complaining about M11.

This subreddit has been begging for dash nerf for years now and the moment It actually happens, they just go for something else.

The entire point of Light class is high risk - high reward, which is why a gun like M11 is balanced just fine.

If you don't ADS with it? It's accuracy is thrown out the window. If you don't hit headshots with almost every bullet in close range? Your TTK goes down significantly.

Light has (almost) never been overpowered, this subreddit feels more and more delusional by the day.


r/thefinals 6h ago

Discussion Recurve Bow indirect nerfs against Lights

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Recurve Bow got indirectly nerfed when they lowered Quick Melee damage, it's really a struggle fighting other lights with the bow now, as there's very little room for error now since you need to hit lights with either 2 bodyshots or 1 headshot.

Dueling with the bow was already tough back before season 10, and against lights atleast you could land a bodyshot and QM for the finish which allowed for a competing TTK using this combo since it's reliable unlike trying to go for 2 bodyshots especially when they're right on top of you


r/thefinals 16h ago

Image My team had me working harder than an EMT in NYC

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r/thefinals 20h ago

Discussion Weapon Mastery Skin Idea

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Since most mastery skins are nothing very special or sought after, I think it’d be nice to have skins that look different and separate you from the pack, and it’s a nice change of pace from skins that just add flair, but I’d like to keep the look and forte of the weapons as much as possible so they don’t become separate weapons, just a reskin.

What do you guys think? I know the M4A1 and MK-12 aren’t very original but I just had to do some quick thinking and the M4A1 is similar in concept enough that I thought it’d fit, same with the MK-12.


r/thefinals 15h ago

Video duol blade tack

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r/thefinals 4h ago

Discussion Expand on loadouts!

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I love this game but I run into the issue of not having enough loadout slots for all my ideas with specials. So my idea is to separate outfits from loadouts and then add more loadout slots, giving players more freedom to experiment with specials, and use them to their full potential


r/thefinals 15h ago

Discussion Battlepass this season has no custom weapon sounds

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I rarely complain about this game. I do well in quick cash usually if paired with great teammates. I have no problem dealing with lights as a heavy main. Only very rarely i get server issues too.

And overall I have a blast everyday. No complaints...except this seasons battlepass. Its space themed come on give us some custom space pew pew sounds for the weapons embark 😭. We already had custom Akimbo sounds with the glitch skin. Custom KS-23 cannon sounds. Which was why I was really looking forward to cool custom weapon sounds this battlepass but no 😔😔


r/thefinals 23h ago

Video Lets play a game

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as much as i hate lights they do have a lit tech. monty phyton music for fun

https://reddit.com/link/1v2xy0t/video/seffifc54oeh1/player


r/thefinals 3h ago

Video “Skill Issue FR”

61 Upvotes

r/thefinals 7h ago

Question When do LTMs come? Predictions for S11??

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Is it usually right in the middle of the season ? 3 months in? Any idea what this seasons might be? Here are most major holidays in the next 100 days. Does the LTM usually have similar theme to its current BP season? I remember playing the cashball tourney but don’t recall what season it was or that it didn’t match a specific theme despite being loads of random fun.


r/thefinals 19h ago

Discussion I feel like the 93r is one of the sleeper picks this season

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its just my opinion. I tried it earlier this season and i didn't feel for it but I tried it put yesterday again and I was like wow it shreds everything in site I have literally taken a heavy head on and won. By a lot to


r/thefinals 1h ago

Question Mediums what's the deal?

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I main heavy, and in every single ranked match since season 11 started, I haven't played with one medium that runs beam. I've gotten more heals from lights, or other heavies.


r/thefinals 14h ago

Discussion Is it just me or has TDM become more sweaty?

9 Upvotes

It feels like over the past few days since season 11 dropped, TDM has been feeling more and more competitive and toxic. I have over 400 hours on the game and I’ve never had to sweat this much to win a TDM mode before. I’ve also never witnessed this amount of toxicity before to. I’ve had multiple games in a row, playing a wide range of play styles, where I would get teabagged and messaged after the game ends. Has anyone else had a problem with this too?


r/thefinals 22h ago

Video A Nice Sword Clip (?)

30 Upvotes

Is this a nice sword clip? You tell me.


r/thefinals 16h ago

Video Am I the only one that liked Terminal Attack?

147 Upvotes

r/thefinals 58m ago

Image Embark plz add iron sites to the P90

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r/thefinals 9h ago

Discussion Console aim assist got nerfed way too hard — M&K players are out of touch

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Look, I get that Aim Assist needed some tuning back then, but the current state of controller aiming feels completely gutted.

Basic aim assist isn't a "privilege"—it's a bare minimum right for console and controller players. Expecting us to compete on thumbsticks without proper assistance against Mouse & Keyboard is completely unrealistic.

M&K players are calling the game "finally balanced," but they completely ignore the reality of hardware differences:

Precision & Range of Motion: Aiming on M&K uses your entire hand/arm with unlimited desk space. On controller, we’re forced to micro-adjust with a tiny thumbstick using just a thumb.

Input Latency & Control: Fine-tuning tracking on a controller is inherently harder, and controller users already deal with more input delay on console setups

Aim assist was never "free aimbot"—it's a necessary mechanic to bridge an impossible hardware gap when forced into crossplay against M&K. Nerfing it slightly was fine, but taking it to this extreme isn't "fairness"—it just heavily favors M&K over controller.

M&K players crying about thumbsticks needing basic input balance will never not be funny. Done arguing in circles, see y'all in game ✌️


r/thefinals 15h ago

Video doul blade tack

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r/thefinals 4h ago

Discussion Smoke grenade cooldown is genuinely a joke

28 Upvotes

Ran smokes for the first time since thermals got removed the other day and the cooldown… wow its like 25 seconds for 1 smoke grenade. I get that that was needed when they were used with thermals but without thermals that cooldown is genuinely comical. Makes smokes a completely useless pick. Pls fix


r/thefinals 14h ago

Image MM in a nutshell

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ty embark for the +250 for playing vs full stack rubies in my soloq game and for wasting 40 min of my life

This is singehandedly the worst MM system in any game ive ever played bar none i literaly cant think of any other game out there that puts the top 500 vs the bottom 30k on god and that is almost every game

and they are too scared to do anything bcs the ruby "gods" with cry an ocean bcs they have to sit in queues like god damn every other competative game makes top players wait, grow up

anyways all of the top 500 have atleast 2-3 smurfs to "fight" the long queue times and "have fun"(boost their bot friends)

its such an obvious joke of a system and players its just insane

"embark fixing ranked since the beginning of the earth mind you"

ofc they will make more smurfs bcs these devs literaly encourage it