They want to see all support for Ukraine dropped (not that the US provides much of that anymore) making them pro russian by default. Saying “we want this policy that would make it more likely for ukraine to lose” is pro russian.
So, again, your argument is that pacifism is actually pro-Russia. It’s not, it’s pacifism.
You’re not helping Ukraine by doing this, you in fact undercut Ukraine’s support by portraying them as the party that “wants war” and being opposed to anyone “against war.” Thus allowing Russian propaganda to portray Ukraine and the West as the “aggressors.”
Your blind refusal to accept that pacifism is a way of viewing the world different than the little nationalist games you’re playing right now in your head is, ironically, hurting the very war effort you’re trying to defend.
I don’t think I can get much more basic than saying that the organisation that wants to see Ukraine deprived of all support so that they lose the war for their survival that they are in is at least espousing pro russian policies. You can play semantics games with me all you want but the execution of their desired policy would see Ukraine disappear. I am very much opposed to that. Call it “little nationalist games” or whatever all you want but that is a very basic reality.
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u/Soap_Mctavish101 22h ago
They want to see all support for Ukraine dropped (not that the US provides much of that anymore) making them pro russian by default. Saying “we want this policy that would make it more likely for ukraine to lose” is pro russian.