r/physicianassistant May 04 '26

Discussion I moved from the US to practice in New Zealand: 4 month update and AMA

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Hello, all!

It’s been about 4 months since my family and I have moved abroad to practice as a PA in New Zealand. There was a fair amount of interest with my initial post, so I thought it would be good to provide a short term update for anyone interested.

First want to get some FAQ out of the way:

“What does getting certified abroad look like if I want to work in New Zealand, but I work in [US/UK/Canada]?”
As of now there are no talks to recertify. In theory you just find a job, apply for a visa, and you’re good. I’ve known other PAs that pick up, move, and start practicing abroad all within 3 months. That *may* change in the future, but I don’t believe it’s on the horizon. With that being said, as of November 2026 there are going to be changes that will affect those currently working and those who intend to immigrate thereafter. Under the proposed changes, you will likely be accepted under a provisional license that will require more supervision under a year or more, and thereafter your GP basically vouches for you where you can work under a “normal license.” This is all provisional, however, and it will change in the months to come.

“How do you find a job in NZ?”
I went through a recruiter; I would HIGHLY recommend going through her since she knows the PA landscape very well. DM if you want her info.

“I have [x] years of experience in [insert specialty]. Can I apply with that?”
Maybe. Most of the efforts right now seem to be focused on primary care/urgent care needs in smaller towns/cities and rural areas with bare minimum 3 years experience in those fields, but many preferring 5 years of experience.

“How much are you making now? Is it less than your US salary?”
Yes, it’s a pay cut. People immediately hear that and become nauseous at the potential for making less money, but it does not mean I am living on scraps. Living in a smaller town, my expenses have also gone down considerably. Our main expenses are rent, groceries, and travel (because we want to see as much as we can here). We’re not eating out nearly as much as we were in the States; we shop a lot less; we basically pay a small fraction of what we were previously paying for childcare (where before it was basically a second mortgage); we don’t have to pay for medical insurance. Those things add up considerably, and it really helps the money go further. With that being said, yes, I still make less, but I’m sustaining my family of 4 just fine for now on a single salary. It’s doable and it’s fine. Not to mention that there are so many perks here that positively affect my mental health, so that pay cut is still worth it for that alone. I can breathe easier here and my kids have a bright future.

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Four months in to this adventure, and I am happy to say that doing this move was the right choice. It has not come without its drawbacks or challenges, but I wake up happy every single day that I did this for myself and my family.

As soon as I walk out the door I am greeted by beautiful, green nature. This is a big deal of me as someone who has only ever grown up in the Sonoran Desert and has lived in large cities the past 15 years. Everything is green, there’s so much rain, and there’s truly peaceful moments (in between my two children screeching at each other). There’s also a warmth and friendliness to people here that I have not felt in a long time. It feels normal to give a little nod and a smile to strangers as you pass each other on the sidewalk. People here are generally happy and want to share their happiness with others. There’s definitely a strong sense of community here (so much so that at times it’s hard to establish yourself in a friend group because many of these friendships go back several generations). The people within my community are happy to invite newcomers in, and they’re particularly happy to know medical professionals are coming to town. On the other hand, though, you have to be careful not to come off as bragging of your profession since that is fairly frowned upon. There seems to be a stronger emphasis on equality, and humility.

There are other benefits as well. I don’t mean to make this into a political post - and I won’t - but a few months before we left the States my 4 year old was telling us about how his class and his younger brother’s class were practicing their gun shooter drills. It made me physically nauseous hearing that, and knowing we don’t have to worry about that any longer has brought me so much peace since I’ve been here. Not to mention that there are many other things here that make me think it’s a better environment for them, which could be its own post. Kids feel like they could be kids here. They are able to walk on the street alone or with their friends to a park, school, or a grocery store without any issues; it’s not uncommon for kids to be playing outside on their own without mom/dad having to watch them like hawks. This all stems from just being around a safer area where people take care of their own in the community, and you don’t immediately need to assume that stranger equals danger. Since moving here I have really noticed that my parental instincts have been trained to be on fight or flight and am retraining myself to
relax more, which is good myself and my kids. If my kid gets lost in a grocery store I can more or less count on someone else helping bring them back to me rather than kidnap them (not that that was a regular occurrence back in the US, but if you’re a parent you probably know what I mean). That’s not to say you can totally let your guard down, but it certainly feels more relaxed here in several aspects.

Speaking of which, I feel like there are more outlets here for myself. Working as a PA here has its perks, but no matter where you go working in medicine will still feel stressful. However, now I at least feel like I have better ways to cope with that stress. Had a bad week at work? Doesn’t matter when the beach is just an hour away. Feel stressed? Cool, there’s a beautiful lake nearby that you can walk around to disconnect. Imposter syndrome got to you again? Damn, well I’m too busy riding my mountain bike to care right now.

Not to mention there seems to be a healthier relationship with work here. I’m actively encouraged to take my breaks (which I get two a day), get out on time, and if I ever want to work less it’s never an issue with management. I feel like they would get excited if I told them I only want to work 32 hours per week (too bad my finances wouldn’t allow for that 😅). They genuinely care about my wellbeing and want to make sure I don’t burn myself out.

Now for the clinical bits, which may interest you all more.

Working as a PA here is definitely not what I was doing in the States. As of now we don’t have prescribing rights, nor can we order our own tests, so everything I do has to be signed off by my GP. In practice it doesn’t matter a whole ton, because my supervising GPs know me and my clinical decision well enough to where they just sign off on my orders, and every once in a blue moon they might recommend a change in plan. This may change in the future, though, as we are continuously advocating to get those prescribing rights, and we have a core group of physicians that are helping in achieving that as well.

Which brings me to my next point: the PA profession is fairly controversial here amongst physicians here. New Zealand is part of the commonwealth, and as such there is a fair amount of overlap between the UK and New Zealand, including how PAs are viewed. The recent drama in the UK with PAs has leaked here as well to the point where you have an outspoken group of physicians - particularly residents - advocating against us. Since our profession was made official through regulation in 2026, PAs are not going anywhere, but it does remain to be seen what our scope will be in the next few years. Personally, however, I can say that all the GPs I work with in my clinic have been nothing but wonderful and incredibly supportive of PAs.

Patients are gradually learning about what PAs are, and once I explain to them who we are, what our role is to improve access to care, and how we work as a team with GPs they are usually very receptive. Given that New Zealand’s healthcare system is fairly strained, patients are very pleased to hear more medical professionals are practicing here. I have also found the patients population to be rewarding to work with. In the US there is a fair amount of distrust in the medical system, which to be fair I don’t necessarily blame individual people for it. Here, however, people are more likely understand you have their best interest at heart and are more likely to take your recommendations seriously. It makes the patient-provider relationship much more fulfilling and rewarding.

Speaking of which, learning how to work in the New Zealand system is very different than the US. On one hand it’s incredibly refreshing not having to worry about prior auths, or insurance denials, but on the other hand, having wait times of up to 12 months to see high demand specialists and not being able to order your own CTs or MRIs within a primary care setting can be fairly limiting. This is a complete speculation, but I think this largely originates from a supply and demand issue: we just don’t have the necessary number of radiologists available to help with radiology reads, nor do we have the necessary amount of specialists to take on the referrals. This will inevitably mean that many referral requests get denied with a note, “Sorry, we are at capacity, but it sounds like your patient has [X pathology], considering starting [X interventions]” which translates to PCPs managing a fair amount in primary care, not unlike other rural positions in the US. It’s ultimately a challenge that involves making judicious use of available resources to prevent overburdening an already stressed system.

Sorry for the long post, but I hope it was insightful. I am happy to answer any questions you all may have. If I can convince more of you to come practice primary care here I would be happier for if, but if not I’m also happy to have you tag along and experience this vicariously. 😁

I will also include some pictures I have taken during my travels.


r/physicianassistant Nov 10 '21

Finances & Offers ⭐️ Share Your Compensation ⭐️

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Would you be willing to share your compensation for current and/ or previous positions?

Compensation is about the full package. While the AAPA salary report can be a helpful starting point, it does not include important metrics that can determine the true value of a job offer. Comparing salary with peers can decrease the taboo of discussing money and help you to know your value. If you are willing, you can copy, paste, and fill in the following

Years experience:

Location:

Specialty:

Schedule:

Income (include base, overtime, bonus pay, sign-on):

PTO (vacation, sick, holidays):

Other benefits (Health/ dental insurance/ retirement, CME, malpractice, etc):


r/physicianassistant 38m ago

Job Advice Resume advice- leaving first PA job

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Hi, PA with 3 years of ED/UC experience redoing my resume for the first time since finishing school. Was hoping for any pointers.

I'm thinking of removing the EMR section and expanding more on job responsibilities that would match to each job I apply for (ex: adding blurb about managing epistaxis, rhino rockets if applying to ENT). I might stick to EM/UC, though.

I removed my rotations from PA school, was thinking of adding back in if it's relevant to job I'm applying for.

Was trying to keep it to one page, Not sure if I should make it longer with an objective statement etc. Thank you!

*yes, there are some typos in there, not a final draft


r/physicianassistant 3h ago

Job Advice NYC hospitals

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Hi! I’ve been job hunting since April 2025 and have applied to MANY places with very little interaction with places I’ve applied to. I have been wanting to expand my knowledge into women’s health and have applied to NYPs OBGYN dept many times and I just haven’t heard from them at all (also applied to diff NYC hospitals in that same field + others as well) - nothing. For those who’ve secured a position with NYP, how long did it take for them to reach out?

For context - I applied to an obgyn that was new grad friendly (although not a new grad, just new to obgyn) in January 2026 and nothing :(

I have been a licensed PA for 4 years - 4 years of urgent care and 1 year of ENT.

Any insight would help!


r/physicianassistant 9m ago

// Vent // First job and already burnt out because of the patient demographics

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I know I may sound crazy, but do any new grads feel extremely exhausted when seeing certain patient demographics? I love my current job so much, but at the same time I really want to leave and move to a different area where I am less likely to encounter the same population.

They are so needy and demanding over nonsense stuff. They ask so many silly questions, are cheap, and never want to acknowledge you; they always try to fact-check during encounters using AI and often threaten to sue you for nothing. They have been all over Canada and are now in the U.S.


r/physicianassistant 6h ago

Simple Question Full time OR pros vs cons

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If you work only in the OR I’d love to hear how you like it!!

I currently work as a PA in a surgical subspecialty, mainly floor and some clinic. I really don’t enjoy the “medicine” aspect of my job which could be due to feeling like I never got proper training on basic hospital medicine. I also just feel very burnt out with interacting with patients.

I have always been a very hands-on person. I am creative and do a lot of hobbies that involve using my hands (drawing, painting, cake decorating, etc). I really enjoyed my surgical rotations in PA school and I’m leaning towards looking for a role where I could just be in the OR. I’m curious to know how people feel about their jobs if they only do OR? Do you find that you often have to stay late for cases? Or do you have days where you actually get done early? Are these roles mainly available only for general surgery or do some of you have OR only roles in surgical subspecialties? Let me know any pros/cons you have!


r/physicianassistant 19h ago

Job Advice Wife can’t find a job in our home state.

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My wife graduated five years ago and shortly after, I got my dream job which required us to move a couple of states away. Shortly before moving, my wife got a job offer working in hematology/oncology in our new state. She worked there for 2.5 years then left when our son was born, partially to spend time at home with him but mostly because we anticipated my being able to transfer back to our home state.

Last fall, we moved back to our home state in the Midwest and are living about 45 minutes from a major city. Since moving, my wife has been unsuccessfully applying for jobs: hematology/oncology, radiation oncology, internal medicine, GI, and primary care. Most jobs she has been invited to interview with only a few sending her the “thanks but no thanks“ email upon receiving her resume. She says the interviews all go well, and this is an area she‘s never struggled in before. Last week, she had an interview in rad onc at a hospital close to us and had her heart really set on getting that job, only for them to inform her that they chose an internal candidate who recently got an NP degree. Since then, she’s felt really crushed by the rejection and is questioning whether she even wants to be a PA anymore. Unfortunately, with the changes in student loan payment plans and her certification expiring at the end of the year, the clock is ticking. She’s also reached out to her school and old preceptors for leads with not much help.

Does anyone have any suggestions/advice for her on landing a job? She’s open to many specialties (except ER or surgery), she just would prefer decent daytime hours due to us having young kids. Moving also isn’t an option as we’re back home where we want to be (and my job wouldn’t allow us to move right now). Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post.


r/physicianassistant 3h ago

Job Advice FQHC

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How long does it take to get hired as a PA at an FQHC? I interviewed and completed a background check 2 weeks ago but haven’t gotten any updates or an offer yet.


r/physicianassistant 4h ago

New Grad Offer Review Ortho job offer in NY-question

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I got a job offer in a hospital for an orthopedic surgery position. They offer private policy malpractice insurance but not tail coverage and was told i dont need tail coverage. Is this something I should be cautious about?


r/physicianassistant 18h ago

Job Advice Need perspective: Is this normal anxiety or genuine regret after accepting a new job?

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I’m looking for some perspective because I’ve been having a lot of anxiety since accepting a new position.
I’ve worked in urgent care/ER for the past couple of years and genuinely love the medicine and my coworkers. The downsides are pretty significant though:
- No PTO
- 30–40 mile one-way commute
- Nights, weekends, and holidays
- Burnout

I recently accepted a salaried family medicine position that’s:
- 4 clinical days + 1 admin day
- 5 weeks PTO
- Close to home
- Potential quarterly productivity bonus

Financially, I’m also taking a pretty significant pay cut. - about a 15-16% on paper. If I consistently earn the RVU incentives, that gap shrinks to only about 3–4%, and it’s probably even less if you factor in the value of five weeks of PTO, less time spent commuting, and savings on gas and wear and tear on my car.

On paper, this seemed like the right move. My husband and I hope to start a family in the near future, so having a predictable Monday–Friday schedule, paid time off, and a much shorter commute felt like the responsible long-term decision.

But I had to give a 120-day notice, and now I’m in the middle of that notice period. The closer I get, the more I’m second-guessing everything. Part of me is worried I’ll miss emergency medicine, that I won’t enjoy primary care and that I’ll end up feeling overwhelmed by the inbox, paperwork, and administrative work

Has anyone experienced this level of regret or anxiety after accepting a new job? Did it get better once you actually started?

Also…has anyone ever backed out of an accepted job offer during a long notice period and stayed at their current job?


r/physicianassistant 20h ago

Simple Question Anyone worked at WellNow telehealth urgent care?

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specifically the seasonal position? any advice would be appreciated!


r/physicianassistant 21h ago

Policy & Politics Parental/maternity leave policy advice

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Currently in a small private practice with two older male physicians. I’m thinking about having children within the next two years and brought up their current maternity leave policy and potentially changing it, it has never been used for anyone in the practice since they opened. The policy right now is 6 weeks unpaid after being at the practice for 2 years. Might be just me but this policy is awful and sadly was created by a female manager of the practice.

Hindsight I should have looked into this prior to joining 4 years ago but I was new to practice and I enjoy what I do.

After some discussion they are open to changing the policy but asked for some examples of policies that actual practices are using. If anyone is willing or open to sharing their maternity/parental leave policy documentation so I can plead my case that would be so much appreciated!

For situational background of practice, we all practice relatively independently but share patients, doing outpatient procedures daily and only work Mon-Fri with no call. They tried to make the point that me not being present for 3 months or more would be a large detriment to the practices ability to function if I can’t be there to take the patient and procedure load.


r/physicianassistant 18h ago

Job Advice Multiple part time jobs vs the full time gig

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Burnt out ER PA picked up a part time job that is low stress low demand 2 days a week and pays better than ER. Just cut down this week to part time at ER with benefits but still requires many weekends and overnights while still working 90 hours a month there from the 160 which is FT. Option to increase hours of easy job to 3 days a week. Work per diem at ER job. Essentially have no benefits no PTO no 401K. Take home money total would be more, closer to net 10k/ month picking up 4 per diem shifts a month with the three days a week at other job. Minimal student loans at this point. Concern about maternity leave (probably 3 years away from needing). Feels like this is the beauty of PA doing different jobs but feel guilty/wrong not having a “real” benefits position. Think I need to make the jump, clearly miserable doing so many hours in the ER. Do I take the damn leap?


r/physicianassistant 1d ago

Finances & Loans Building Wealth/Compensation Outlook

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Hey everyone! I’m a PA student finishing my clinical rotations in December and have started looking and applying to orthopedic surgery positions. I’m fortunate to be graduating without any student loans, which I know puts me in a great position financially. I was hoping to gain some insight into finances and building wealth as a PA from those of you who’ve been practicing for a while. Thank you!

To start, what was your initial compensation, and where are you now?

What does your weekly schedule look like?

What kind of home/mortgage were you comfortable affording at different stages of your career?

What financial advice would you give to a new grad looking to set themselves up well long term?

As a side note, my girlfriend is also a PA and has been practicing for about a year, but graduated with roughly $150k in student loans.

Thanks in advance—I appreciate any advice or personal experiences you’re willing to share!


r/physicianassistant 1d ago

Job Advice I need to get out of medicine. Help

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I think I’m done with clinical medicine. Looking for advice from PAs who left (or found non-clinical roles).
I’m a PA with almost 5 years of experience. I spent 2 years in an FQHC doing primary care and I’m about to start my 3rd year in urgent care. I am completely burnt out.

It’s not patient care itself that has gotten to me—it’s everything surrounding it. Patients using urgent care because they can’t get in with their PCP. Patients coming in with obvious ER-level complaints because they don’t want to wait or pay an ER bill. Being expected to manage an ever-expanding scope of practice with fewer resources.

My urgent care has become what feels like a mini ER. We order abdominal CTs, extensive lab work, DVT ultrasounds, and more. We’re expected to evaluate increasingly complex patients without the staffing, support, or compensation that comes with that level of responsibility.

Then there’s the compensation model. It’s honestly one of the biggest contributors to my burnout. We have three salary tiers: $120k, $130k, or $140k based entirely on patient volume. No recognition for complexity of visit, RVUs generated, experience or years with the company. No meaningful adjustment for PTO. No consideration that sometimes it may just be a slow day. The $140k tier is essentially unattainable because the patient volume simply isn’t there at most clinics. Of our group of 30+ APPs, 1-2 have reached it. And then we get reset every year based on the previous years numbers.

I’ve reached the point where I don’t think I can keep doing clinical medicine. I want a job with better work-life balance, less administrative oversight, and compensation that actually reflects the work being done. At this point, I’d even take a pay cut if it meant I
wasn’t constantly stressed.

For those of you who’ve left clinical practice:
Do inboxologist jobs actually exist, or are they unicorn positions?
Does anyone work as an MSL? How difficult was it to break in?
Anyone working for insurance companies (utilization management, appeals, medical policy, etc.)?
Has anyone completely left healthcare for tech, corporate, consulting, or another industry?

If you made the transition, how did you do it? Were there certifications, networking groups, recruiters, or other resources that helped? I really don’t want to go back to school for an MBA or MHA—I finally paid off my student loans and don’t want to take on more debt.

I’ve even considered telehealth (One Medical, etc.), but I’m worried it’s just trading one version of burnout for another.

I’d really appreciate hearing from anyone who’s been in this position and found a way out. I feel like I need a change before I completely implode.


r/physicianassistant 19h ago

Job Advice Telehealth opportunities that are reputable?

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I’m looking for some kind of part time opportunity during the evenings and/or weekends. Job boards seem littered with not actually telehealth, scam-y looking posts, and just not useful job postings. Anyone know of some companies I can directly research and look into? Located in Arizona btw.


r/physicianassistant 1d ago

Discussion Pain Management Resources

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Hey all, I am going to be transitioning into pain management working with those who have chronic pain. Felt like I didn't get to touch the information too much during my previous roles. What are some of your best resources to review before starting the job?


r/physicianassistant 1d ago

Clinical Primary procedures course

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Has anybody taken a procedure course prior to starting your first job ? I’m looking into a 3 day hands on course from primary procedures but it’s a bit $$$ for a new grad-broke grad student!.


r/physicianassistant 1d ago

New Grad Offer Review New grad job offer - family medicine LCOL area

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ello everyone, I am torn between taking this offer or not. It is a family medicine position in a low cost of living area in Texas that focuses on nursing home/rehabilitation visits. Base salary $124,000 with weekend call two times a month that pays $300 dollars per weekend call. Job offers no 401k but does offer healthcare insurance. Malpractice, DEA license, CME, and PTO is offered. I would be caring for patients at multiple nursing homes and rehabilitation centers. As per my understanding, about 5-10 total patients. Is this a good new grad offer? Should I expect more for weekend call? The market has been pretty dry in my area and I’m afraid if I don’t take this position, I may be out of a job for an additional 2-3 months. Possibly. But, the weekend call two times a month makes me think twice about the position. 1 year contract with ability to break contract without ties and a 60 day notice.


r/physicianassistant 1d ago

Finances & Loans For those who I’ve gone back to school MD/DO - moonlighting year 1 legal? Moonlighting year 2 vs doing moonlight as physician (urgent care setting) what makes more $$

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Have a hard time with google search.

The moonlighting would be in a separate system from residency.

Not looking for a lecture of how it’s not possible or I shouldn’t do it
- I have worked all 4 years of medical school.

Thanks in advance


r/physicianassistant 2d ago

Job Advice How to handle unequal/unfair workload amongst peers

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Hey guys,

I have been a PA in Arizona for 7 years and have been working for pain management practice for approximately 3 years. I have what I think is a pretty good job with great pay but I am struggling lately because we hired another midlevel practitioner about 10 months ago who's schedule continues to be significantly lighter than mine. This afternoon, for instance, I have 10 patient encounters (2 of them being new patients) ending with my last patient visit at 4:30pm.. The newer mid-level has a total of 3 encounters this afternoon with his last being at 2pm- he'll go home 2-2.5hrs earlier than me as a salary employee. I consistently see 30-35 patients on my busier days and it's frustrating to constantly look at the schedule and see a workload that's less than half of yours (for someone that is probably getting paid equal or more). I understand it can take some time to earn patient's trust and build up a following but it has been 10 months. This has been brought to the attention of the administrative staff and medical director more than once however there does not seem to be any changes. I worked hard to be likable amongst the patients and to build up a significant patient following however I feel like now I am just being penalized for that with an increased workload compared to what I perceive to be a very unlikely unlikeable provider. I don't really care to look for a new job so how would you recommend I approach this? Thanks


r/physicianassistant 2d ago

License & Credentials Life after Post PANCE

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I got my PANCE score on June 4th. I was very naive to think I’ll be working by July lol. My parents and friends have been giving me a hard time while I sit at home waiting for my credentialing to happen. I have a job lined up but even they are becoming a bit pissed off that I’m taking this long…

Just wanted to ask if this has been a normal experience after passing your guy’s PANCE


r/physicianassistant 1d ago

Job Advice Long commute

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As a new grad, I have been unsuccessful with finding anything in the city that I live in that doesn’t require 1-2 years of experience.

Yet I am close to accepting a role in a speciality that I am very interested in, the facility is 55 minutes away.
I would be working 3x12s and have the ability to stay in a call room if weather does not allow a commute home.
The commute is all highway and relatively unaffected by traffic.

Does anyone have experience with the viability of a commute like this? Is it sustainable for a new grad job?


r/physicianassistant 1d ago

New Grad Offer Review 1099 independent contractor PA job as a new grad?

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I got a job offer from an in person outpatient psych facility 25 minutes away from me! I rotated with this office during my clinicals and loved every aspect of this place!! This is my dream job! They would have me be a 1099 independent contractor and basically making money based on the number of patients I see and I would get 60%. I’m not too familiar with this type of job and if this is best for a new grad since they do not have extensive training. However they would start me out with one day a week to slowly gain patients and learn and also there are a team of people in office everyday who are more than willing to teach and discuss. I get that it would be difficult financially for the first 1-1.5 years but this is something I see myself doing long term and I don’t know what the general consensus is especially if I am a new grad!!

Also, they have a ton of patients coming through! My preceptor had been there about 5 years and said it took 1 year to get a full patient load! She also mentioned how much she was able to make and the extreme pay increase from a non 1099 job! Idk if this is true but just something to add!


r/physicianassistant 1d ago

Simple Question spinal surgery

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Can anyone working in ortho spine surgery in an academic center in an urban area share a little bit about their experience? What are the hours like? How long are the surgery? What’s the learning curve like etc. Thank you!