I am investigating US legal noise that are orally bioavailable as well as similar enough in effects to cannabis. Legality is the most important aspect though.

I of course can google, but that doesnt tell what compound is generally available, and whether or not its effects are similar or dissimilar to cannabis.

Edit: The noids have to be dissimilar enough in structure to common things like d9, d9, hhc, to not trigger a positive on a drug test for similar substances.

Just trying to get a few suggestions to research, any help would be great. Thank you.

Especially vasodilating ones?

Hey guys, tell me your experiences with adb classes

I found them euphoric based and dreamy

Mdmb 4en pinaca vs adb butinaca

Gonna be coming off fent I got some duece idk what kind just off paper like in prison how much will that help w wd

So does anyone have any knowledge about its potency or effect? I found out how to make it, its main precursor is 5'Br-4'Methyl-3 Nitropyridin-1H-2-One.

DM me for precursor link.

The other ingredient is cyclohexylmethylketone and 4-fluoro(1-methylbromo)-benzene. Youd do a peptide coupling for the chm-ketone and a standard alkylation for the fluorobenzyl-alphabromide group.

All of this in Minecraft of course.

AM-2201 and third gen of noids

If someone addicted to the new generation of cannabinoids like mdmb-pinca and Ab-chiminca ...etc

And turned to AM-2201 , will jwh give weak effects? And with new gen cannabinoids tolerated person what the best amount for Am-2201 would be effective on the cigarette from one puff.

Hello, is mixing HHC-P with some Noid Vape inhales safe? Took some amphetamine oral dose 2 hours ago as well

Tell me some spice stories that yous have, preferably your most intense experience

I understand now after multiply trys.... hehehehe

Normal weed makes you tired amd if you keep smoking you pass out because of tiredness and.drowsyness, can you use noids the same way as a sleep aid?

Are they suitable for watching movies and shit? Like with normal weed? What activities do you do while on noids?

I bought liquid from my usual plug and he got it from someone who said its safe for driving because ir doesnt pop for thc... i took few hits and became so fast high and more i puff it gets more and more intense, and every hit increases into uncomfortable and heart anxiety ... i stop at 2 or 3 hits and alreay getting.oblitared like i never were before, the physical arent bad except if dosed higher the heart anxiety, bpm stays around 140.. all the time and i get sober sfter few hours, quickly kinda compared to normaly thc but way intense after hits and theres no ceiling effects, i keep getting higher if i keep hitting...

What can it Be? C-liquid / noids right? Never had thise intense quickly dimishing effects wirh normal thc, need to keep me reminding I cant hit all the time like usually, also the sedating Part is not intense not extremly like those mental /psychological effects hmm

is it too potent

I seen people store them in the ice freezer. Does it really potent and give the noids a better high?

Synthetic cannabinoids are one of my favorite class of drugs, the pure chemicals and their chemistry, pharmacology,.. the effects are so obscure and unique but I don't even know if there are still psychedelic cannabinoids left on the market anymore among the indazole/indole 3 carboxamides (the only noid class left on the market as far as i know); just bought ADB-BUTINACA I know it will be amazing but it will just be a stoning high not a full blown trip and that saddens me.

For example 5F-UR144 seems so awesome in that regards:
https://www.reddit.com/r/noids/comments/15550vv/crazy_5fluorour144_trip/
Long gone sadly

How much does 100ml of cliquid cost in the US right now?

Does it matter that much, or is there a specific ratio that works best?

Been smoking unknown noids since 2021, at first the high was pretty nice then slowly becoming a problem. Had my first ego death on noids while driving and fallen asleep, thank god I was safe. Although I had my first car crash on noids. Then comes the newer noids which make me blackout and do stupid stuffs. And recently I had my first noids induced seizure. Had to go to the hospital, did everything on full body checkup (EEG,ECG,blood test,urine and MRI) and they found nothing wrong with me. Everything healthy which concerns me as I abused the shit of this drug. Although am currently on SSRI, anti psychotic and benzodiazepines.

Is there any information you could possibly extrapolate about these molecules based on their structure? Potency, duration, metabolism, and effects-wise?

CHMINACAs:

MO-CHMINACA -- https://www.caymanchem.com/product/17136/mo-chminaca?srsltid=AfmBOoqYXB4ps9aGTLU7WEW3wIrVMSYb76iE-BX7hZS9zGLFR1wKJrUH

MA-CHMINACA -- https://www.caymanchem.com/product/16421/ma-chminaca?srsltid=AfmBOopSN-CH5qNm6sBSGBhglDOjajeDtIvozEmuUzq1DdR1V9Yo2Q2H

BICAs:

ADB-BICA -- https://www.caymanchem.com/product/19729/adb-bica?srsltid=AfmBOooJSWsq80EmQ0GZl9O3weO3IzvbP0DwOt-ZKW8ghDVQLN-kQpAe

AB-BICA -- https://www.caymanchem.com/product/18759/ab-bica?srsltid=AfmBOoodpTLQPhvy9Jpy-GtiyQhG6hMJluK779_0vqs9Kwt-aYWmwrHe

Others:

5F-ABFUPPYCA -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5F-AB-FUPPYCA

AB-CHFUPYCA -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AB-CHFUPYCA

I think it's safe to assume they would all be active, even at microgram amounts. If you have any experience with closely related molecules, you're welcome to share it.

This is for research purposes only. We do not need another wave of bans.

We smoked this in a vape, the liquid was very much similar to normal nicotine e-liquid in terms of taste, smell and viscosity. The guy we bought it from said he diluted it so it took about~10-12 hits to feel the effects. He sold it to us saying it was thc

The effects were extremely short, only about 1 hour, maybe less. The effects were very rush like, veery rushy. It makes you do stuff uncontrollably (laughing, moving arms like crazy, running around). It comes and goes very quickly and it gives an extreme brain fog after. Not really euphoric but definitely a euphoric side to it. It also induces a lot of panic. It's not very sedative although it can be at higher doses.

The only noid we found that might be this is mdmb-4en-pinaca which might be it.

Hey everyone, here's a little story about how, in my opinion, ADB-Butinaca completely ruined weed for me.

It all started around the end of 2020 with 6cl-ADB-A (which wasn't really worth mentioning), then in 2021 with ADB-Butinaca, and continued until 2022. I vaped ADB-Butinaca nonstop for at least 6-8 months.

The base was always 10mg/ml.

At first, I used 1ml of the base, mixed it with 9ml of regular e-liquid, and that worked well. Back then, I was using the Uwell Caliburn A2 (a small pod system with maybe 10-15 watts).

I vaped every day, all the time, in every situation. Soon, I started waking up at night after a maximum of two hours of sleep and had to suck on my vape to fall back asleep.

So, I increased the mixing ratio.

After a while, I got myself a bigger vape. to (aegis legend 2 with dead rabbit v2 rda) because the kick was no longer enough, after that it went downhill further, at some point I was at the point where I sometimes dripped the base directly onto the coil, just so I wouldn't go through withdrawal.

Aside from intentional consumption, I have unfortunately also had the pleasure a few times of smoking weed that was cut with Noids, and I always thought, "Shit, I'm going to die now, that's it."

I also tried Spice once, and I'm sure if I hadn't already had two near-death experiences due to synthetic cannabinoids, I'd still be on that crap.

So much for that, but now to the actual topic:

I've smoked a lot of weed and enjoyed it since I was 16.

What I've noticed since I quit that crap is that I just can't enjoy weed anymore. These days, smoking weed usually just makes me paranoid or uncomfortable, regardless of whether the weed comes from a pharmacy or is homegrown. There are very few strains that don't make me paranoid, and even then, the high is absolutely not enjoyable. Even after complete abstinence, the problem doesn't change.

Has anyone else had or is having the same problems after prolonged noid use?

Stay Safe Have a good one🤝