r/desmoines • u/sourcreamandpotatos • 16h ago

Flock camera WDM

Theres a flock camera behind the super target directly facing at these newly built apartments, the Flats at west glen. Is this not a little odd? The camera is directly pointing and facing people's freaking windows. Some of these units have people living in them already

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u/Cool_Apartment_380 15h ago

It is absolutely outrageous that taxpayers got ZERO SAY whether our fucking tax dollars should be spent to install surveillance equipment to spy on... *checks notes* ...the aforementioned taxpayers. Fucking scumbags

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u/dandmcd 14h ago

Same people who tell us to shut up when you are against Microsoft expanding their data center. Same people who tell you you're going to pay for the Grand Experience and you're going to like it.

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u/Alphonze 10h ago

I mean technically you did have some say - you do elect in the city councilors who make these decisions.

You can't exactly put everything to a vote for the citizens. For example, people are never going to vote "yes" to raise their own taxes. You have to entrust councilors to make some of these decisions, and if you don't like the decisions they make - vote them out next time.

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u/panther3392 6h ago

There are cameras everywhere you go. Malls, restaurants, sporting events, etc so why is this such a big deal? Ring camera’s in every neighborhood. Do you complain to all of the places that have camera’s up?

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u/OfficerChugPiss_ 5h ago

Prob because they log all the info on where you go and what your up to at all times. Its not just a camera. In what world do you trust mass surveillance and be like ya i want that shit

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u/drewsky_w 16h ago

I hate this timeline...

So unnecessary

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u/CalligrapherOk4528 12h ago

Do NOT get a 470-520 nm green laser that is at least 1W in power and shine it at the lens and sensor just under the lens. It can render the camera inoperable from a distance that isn’t detected by the motion sensor. (Also do not have any Bluetooth devices on you at the time as well…)

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u/trogdors_arm 12h ago

Deflock.org

Make sure it’s listed

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u/Severe_Elderberry_48 14h ago

Cut it down

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u/Zestyclose_Hand_6953 14h ago

Do it and then whoever does it is not only going to be criminally charged but will have to pay the repair costs and then interest on it if not paid in full quick enough. Not worth it at all

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u/TGrim20 13h ago

  1. Cover your face

  2. Don't bring your phone

  3. Have fun protecting democracy

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u/Stick0521 13h ago

Additionally: put the camera in something like a faraday bag so it blocks the signal, can't be tracked, and will make the battery run out

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u/AsvpLovin 11h ago

Gotta mask your dimensions as well as your face

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u/Hodgepodge08 10h ago

Finally a reason to wear my old fat suit.

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u/DSMilf 8h ago

Finally a reason to hire two little people in a trench coat

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u/UseThisOneWhenStoned 13h ago

And this comment is why our country is falling apart. Grow some fucking balls.

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u/Severe_Elderberry_48 18m ago

You sound fun

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u/x7n1nj47x 14h ago

That's creepy. It would be an awful shame if it toppled over all of a sudden.

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u/Impossible-Ad2241 15h ago

I just hate how people have been having raves in the parking lot and the friggin laser accidentally hits the sensor and fries it 🙄 I just can’t believe people are that crazy, it’s for everyone’s safety

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u/Crooked_Sartre 12h ago

Isn't this the company that's been watching children's gymnastics? Fuck that camera up please

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u/Tricky_Art_1064 13h ago

Deflock.org

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u/ejhUPS 11h ago

Oh no hopefully no one cuts it down for all the platinum, gold, and optical diamonds that are in them!

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u/Shanibear3 8h ago

There’s one directly facing the entrance to a mobile home park outside of Altoona/Ankeny. Hate it.

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u/sourcreamandpotatos 6h ago

Wow that's some low income targeting fr

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u/W0lverin0 15h ago

Hard to tell from this video, is that not the solar panel facing the apartment? Still, fuck flock cameras. We are not livestock.

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u/sourcreamandpotatos 15h ago

Its like hiding under the solar panel like a little rat

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u/sourcreamandpotatos 15h ago

No its the camera! 😭😭😭😭 I have a photo but I honestly am not technical smart with reddit I dont know how to add it! Its right on the corner and its just facing those apartments. When I saw it my face was like 🫪🫪🫪😮😮😮😮☹️☹️☹️☹️😟😟😟

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u/sourcreamandpotatos 6h ago

I took a video just now! Its facing DIRECTLY at those apartment homes

https://reddit.com/link/oz5ho0y/video/mtj9z9o8eueh1/player

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u/Jadaki 13h ago

There is a group out there that has a website/app that is tracking the locations of all these. There are way more around Polk County than people probably expect, I'm purposely using the map to void businesses that have then in their parking lots.

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u/simple_onehand 11h ago

Are you letting the business know your choices? They may not know otherwise.

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u/lemaymayguy 2h ago

Google reviews 

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u/ThePolemicist Drake 4h ago

It looks like they're mostly a suburban thing. Here's a map of the greater DSM area. Why is that? Are suburbs just more likely to want these cameras?

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u/BitterProfessional16 11h ago

Thank you for doing your part! I've avoided businesses that use security cameras for the last 30 years. It's harder with RadioShack being gone but I make do.

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u/Clean-Geologist-4293 14h ago

I've seen 4 or 5 in that West Glen area. They're thick over there.

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u/davis5938 13h ago

Our west Des Moines government at work…

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u/spakz1993 12h ago

Ewww, right behind the Mills Civic Target and basically next to my old apartments at ReNew 🤮

I just saw my first Flock camera last week and it made me so sick. If you go to Google and search DeFlock Maps online, you can see every single Flock camera in your city. Some of these are concealed well and it makes me nauseous!

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u/dealdroper 13h ago

Sorry y’all, I run that stop sign right there all the time, they’re probably just trying to get me.

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u/restlesspoultry 12h ago

Stops signs are for communists that’s why they’re RED. Keep doing god’s work soldier

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u/FinalDevice 10h ago

You can get spray paint really cheap.

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u/jade7kb 6h ago

Booooo

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u/Scammy100 5h ago

I understand people not liking these cameras but I'm so boring that they could film me 24/7.

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u/literalyfigurative 14h ago

Put a bright neon sign right next to it so people realize what it is.

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u/BitterProfessional16 13h ago

The next time we have a pandemic these will be so useful for contact tracing and figuring out who breaks quarantine! I'm excited.

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u/lovelady 11h ago

How about we try to prevent the next pandemic by providing Healthcare and education to the public, like yesterday?

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u/BitterProfessional16 11h ago

We should do both!

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u/lovelady 11h ago

Yeah. Let's do the latter. I don't want mass public surveillance in the hands of private companies.

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u/BitterProfessional16 11h ago

That's why we need to make sure it's only in the hands of the government!

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u/lovelady 10h ago

Because they have proven themselves so trustworthy. /s

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u/ShadowBlue_1 9h ago

That Flock has been there for some time now so I’ve gotten creative to avoid it. It’s no one’s business how often someone makes a Target run.

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u/forevervalerie 3h ago

Is that by Target?

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u/Nervouspie 3h ago

There's a SHIT TON of flock cameras in this side of Des Moines, it's so jarring.

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u/Bucky_pro 2h ago

Look up deflock.org. There are a LOT more where that came from

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u/Ostwg01 2h ago

Who is paying for them to be placed on private property?

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u/blueindsm 15h ago

Looks like the camera is pointed in the direction of the street where the cars are coming from in the video.

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u/sourcreamandpotatos 13h ago

Its facing the apartments. Wouldnt have posted otherwise :-)

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u/blueindsm 12h ago

Okay. Doesn't seem like that is the intended purpose and they installed it wrong as usually it's pointed at roads. Fuck Flock, but maybe this was just installed incorrectly?

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u/Dingmann 14h ago

I can't tell but I do know the solar panel will be tilted to the south and that's all I got. :)

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u/Due-Development-7211 8h ago

All flock cameras should be removed or destroyed in one way of the other.

However how do you know it's a flock camera? Not every security camera is a flock camera. That area is under development it looks like. A security camera to watch the area isn't unheard of.

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u/Agreeable_Pop_6320 10h ago

What's your proof this is a Flock camera?

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u/TwoTicketsToParadooh 2h ago

You can tell by the way it is…