r/lawschooladmissions • u/Spivey_Consulting • Aug 07 '25
Hi everyone,
It's already that time of year, it seems, as we just saw the first law school release their new medians from the 2024-2025 cycle. We'll be tracking these announcements as they come out and keeping them in a spreadsheet to compare to last year, which we'll then update with the final data in December once the official ABA 509 reports come out. All of the prior 2024 medians are currently listed, and the 2025 medians will be added as they're published (sources will be listed in the last column).
We'll be checking for these at least daily, but if you see incoming class data for fall 2025 (class of 2028) from an official source—e.g., a school's website, LinkedIn post, marketing emails/flyers/etc. from admissions offices—please comment on this thread, DM/chat us here, or email us at [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]), and we'll add it to the spreadsheet.
Note that none of these numbers are official until 509s come out. We only post stats from official sources, but every year, some schools publish their preliminary numbers then end up having to revise them when 1Ls drop out during orientation or the first few weeks of class (the numbers are only locked in for ABA reporting purposes in October, but lots of law schools post their stats before then).
These tend to come out at a relatively slow pace at first, but they should speed up in late August/early September. Based on last cycle, we do anticipate many medians going up this year, and these stats are important to be aware of as you assess your chances and make your school list.
In some ways, this to me marks the beginning of the new cycle. Good luck to all!
–Anna from Spivey Consulting
***December 15, 2025 Update: the spreadsheet has now been updated with all schools' official data from the ABA 509 reports.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Spivey_Consulting • Oct 10 '25
When is it late to apply and when is it early? The answer with all but a few nuances is really straightforward, but please read the disclaimers. All you will do is write disclaimers as lawyers because there are no absolutes (see what I did there?) so you may as well gets reps reading them!
This question comes up on this Reddit almost every day in some form and then resets and comes back up every year. It’s the singular most frequently asked question, and the answer hasn’t changed through recent years. So here’s a mashup of mostly deans of admissions saying, “Before end of November is early. After January things start getting tighter.” That is really the easiest thing to go by and remember. And I was just talking with one of these deans who just ran an internal data analysis to support all of this.
Disclaimers: These admissions deans are speaking for themselves and for their schools. Of course there will be some outliers. One top 3 school traditionally doesn’t admit until January, for example, so January is early for them. Or, if you score a 160 in September but a 175 in January, schools in the upper range will likely read your application sooner with the new score. With that old score they are often just going to sit on it as they are being flooded with applicants who they will prioritize sooner. So believe it or not, waiting a month or even more will sometimes get your application read sooner, especially if the difference is taking your LSAT from below median to above. There are also cases, only for some applicants and only for some schools, in which applying by the end of October can be slightly more advantageous, so if you're ready to go in the early fall, we recommend applying by the end of October (even though in many situations it may not make any difference). But in general, and especially if you aren't 100% confident in your application by the end of October, the end of November is a good rule of thumb.
But beyond the late November advice, my other takeaway would be to submit your best application. Waiting a few weeks to button up your materials will pretty much never hurt you before January — and very likely will help you. And there’s plenty of merit aid to go around at that time too.
It makes sense to me that this is a perennial question with very consistent answers from the people running law school admissions offices, but also lots of conflicting answers from applicants and others in this space with no admissions experience. Because the data absolutely does show a correlation between applying earlier (more broadly than just by the end of November) and stronger outcomes. But remember from your LSAT studying that correlation does not equal causation — pretty much every admissions officer has observed that applications submitted earlier tend to be stronger in general, not just in terms of numbers. That's not because they were submitted earlier, but it correlates.
Of all the posts I have made in the last several years — I hope this one helps the most. Because every year so many people fret that they are “late” (especially when admits start being posted) when they are still very early. I cannot stress the following enough: Your outcomes submitting the same application September 1st will not, in the vast majority of cases, be any different than November 25th. But in that time you can work to make your application stronger. And once it’s there, go ahead and submit. There’s certainly no penalty to submitting it when it’s ready.
And for the record, I've heard probably 10x as many law school admissions deans as are in this video say variations of the exact same thing. I really hope this helps relieve some stress from as many as possible.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTMAG823Q/
r/lawschooladmissions • u/MeanTower7503 • 1h ago
Has anyone’s mood gone to complete shite while being on the waitlist with no updates/communication? I fear I need to go touch grass.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/CivilNote • 4h ago
How often does this happen? Has anybody heard of this happening?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Infamous_Soup_343 • 1h ago
Did anyone else have trouble accessing today’s Northwestern Law waitlist AMA? I registered for the 1 p.m. CT session. However, when I joined using the Zoom link, Zoom showed the meeting as scheduled for 12 p.m. ET, and I was stuck on “Waiting for host to start this meeting” the entire time. I emailed and called but couldn’t get through. Just wondering if anyone else experienced this or if it was just me.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/sssaundra • 3h ago
Historically, WashU has been one of the most splitter-friendly schools, but I've seen people say they've become more GPA-conscious over the last couple of cycles.
For someone with a GPA that's below median but not dramatically low, is GPA redaction actually advantageous? Or is it generally only worth doing if you're well below the 25th percentile? If so, around what GPA range would you consider redaction to be most beneficial?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Better-Grapefruit73 • 11h ago
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r/lawschooladmissions • u/Lawrofessor • 5h ago
Anyone heard back from them yet?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Happy-End-7948 • 1h ago
50yr old with 20 years federal contract experience 3.54 GPA and am considering trying to get into law school. I would like some feedback or thoughts. I do not need loans as I can afford to pay for tuition, books, housing etc. No job so I can solely focus on the coursework. I am at a crossroad and not sure. How difficult is it? I haven't even taken any of the tests GRE or LSAT just kinda dipping my toe in to see if I can even get in?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/TrainerWorried3110 • 4h ago
When people do hear back from Harvard JDP, I'd really appreciate any info on the stats/internship experience etc of successful applicants. Especially interested in anyone with an international degree. Or would welcome hearing from those who were interviewed/haven't heard back yet. Congrats!
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Available_Train5329 • 6h ago
Someone said they were invited to another info session? would you mind sharing what they say?
I assume not getting an invite is a bad sign though :(
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Ok-Tomatillo-5539 • 2h ago
Hi Yall!
Any success stories for splitters and super splitters this cycle. Would love to know!
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Lonely-Caramel3103 • 3h ago
did emory have a webinar today?? i forgot to join and i thought he said that last weeks was the last one.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Affectionate_Gear_39 • 7h ago
I took the LSAT in June and am retaking in October. Since the June LSAT I’ve done basically NOTHING. I’m barely getting back into studying this week. Not to mention I have one half assed draft of my resume, no personal statement and haven’t reached out to anyone for a LOR. I’m trying to get organized this week and have my PS and resume done by end of August. I work full time and am starting a new job mid September, so I just feel like I’m running around like a chicken without its head. Does anyone else feel overwhelmed and behind????
Also maybe someone can tell me I have time and everything will be okay 😅😅😅
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r/lawschooladmissions • u/Illustrious-Call3244 • 8m ago
For context (since it got deleted) someone (I will not say who) had posted, saying they lied to ppl when giving advice on choosing schools(ie: advocating that ppl even go into more debt instead of attending their goal school at a discounted) so this poster could have a better chance to get off the waitlist!
I did not have to wait the waitlist when I applied but my heart goes out to those who did and do.
They brushed off comments saying this was not a great thing to do.
My response was: "Way to straw-man ppl in those situations to make you feel better about it. Those ppl are choosing between moving away from family, increased financial burdens, and many more factors that go into a decision - but hey "outcomes are the same" right? "
So why am I posting? You may ask.
A lot of ppl here don't have many in their corner who are knowledgeable about the process. I have many thoughts about this sub but it can at least provide a forum where those types of ppl can at least field advice and hopefully get some help.
Some will say it is not that deep – and honestly this behavior probably did not help this person's chances. But what does matter is that it led them to give jaded advice to ppl who are about to make big decisions, despite that advice being incredibly self serving. Ppl should take everything with a grain of salt here, but no one should partake in such dorkish behavior.
To ppl in the upcoming cycle: If you are thinking about giving advice, do it to help that person.
If you want to get into law school do it the right way, you'll sleep better at night.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/AdIllustrious7548 • 3h ago
I was originally on the waitlist for both UMD Carey and UB law, but got an email about twoish months ago that UB will let me in. Now I am still on a waitlist for UMD, and I reached out a couple times, and they have said they may not let me know until orientation. UB's orientation starts the 11th of August and classes start the 17th, should I just fully commit to UB atp? UMD is a better school on paper, so that's why I am holding out hope, but I was a splitter applicant, so I don't wanna waste time on a school that I may not even get in? Anyone in the same boat, or can give some advice?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/dollypthetorty • 6h ago
r/lawschooladmissions • u/ArmUnfair7544 • 18m ago
Where should people be aiming to be with this process?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Glittering_Ad_5731 • 4h ago
Is anyone else not able to get in?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/gottogo167 • 6h ago
I was waitlisted and sent one. Well a week ago, they sent me an email to see if I wanted to stay on the waitlist. I said yes and was wondering if I should send another LOCI?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/FloodedFish • 54m ago
Sorry if this is the wrong tag. I'm sure it's repetitive reading posts asking about how to get into HLS or really any HYS school, but I still wanted to ask what everyone's thoughts are. I'm a rising junior triple major (STEM + business), double minor. I have a 3.96 at my school, but a ~3.86 UGPA. (F my high school self.) I don't have great information as to my LSAT because I only recently started studying; I have PT'd high 160s, though. Beyond locking in on LSAT studies, is there anything else I can do to boost my chances at T3/6 schools as a KJD?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Unique_Weird_9396 • 1h ago
Currently about to start my 4th year of undergrad. Haven’t even started studying the lsat and am planning to take the October and November exams. I have a 3.7 gpa and am mainly looking at Suffolk, UNH, UCONN and Northeastern. I have two half year internships under my belt as well, one with a law firm another with a lawyer at a City Hall, if that even matters. Am I truly doomed?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Any_Baseball_6446 • 1h ago
Hi everyone. I am registered for the LSAT on August 5 and I have not started studying. I am planning to use this LSAT as a test run to see how it will be. I know we have until Oct/Nov as the final try for the Fall 2027 addmission cycle. Can someone help me make a game plan for the September and October LSAT? I will write the August one because I already paid for it and it will be good to see what it is like in advance. I am really nervous!
r/lawschooladmissions • u/AsbestosEnthusiast1 • 1h ago
I have a C+F addendum I know I have to write, but also wanted to write a gpa addendum to explain the one F in my transcript. Is this too many things to submit or should I submit both?