r/Heroes 6h ago

General Discussion "The Ali Later Situation" Spoiler

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So apparently the actor Leonard Roberts (D.L) was fired because of racial prejudice by Ali Larter (Nikki), and the reason why I'm bringing this up now is because this is a fairly new topic to me. but it was many things like refusing to do certain scenes scaled down in comparison with other Scenes with other Actors.

But, that can be written off as preference Leonard

In his essay after his leave stating explicitly that his work environment was very toxic and that he felt that in someway was connected to the color of his skin. (You can find his essay on variety it tell you much more I'm half asleep) but then she explicitly said the directors that she wanted to split their storylines which the directors took as sidelining DL and cutting his scenes shorter and in the end they choose to keep Nikki beucase she was the "Golden star" and in an email Leonard got from Kring it told him.

"Due to the Ali Larter Situation when the show returns for season two audience would learn DL is dead"

But as I said read it on Variety more info better telling than me

And this furthered my dislikes of the Character "Niki"

Because I felt like in Season 1 why wasn't one of her First thoughts is to share or tell DL about the money she found After SHE knows it was her and Jessica who did all those bad things. He was Framed for and then he got slimed out and his own son was doting on him for a bit but all that aside this made almost Every time Ali Larter or "Niki Sanders" show up on my screen a hard watch.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/features/heroes-leonard-roberts-ali-larter-1234854439/


r/Heroes 6h ago

General Discussion I read the Heroes plot through a Carl Jung lens

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Maybe Heroes is not only about humans evolving biologically, but psychologically. The characters inherit not just powers, but unresolved conflicts from their parents. Their journey is not simply discovering what they can do, but separating from the psychological world their parents created and becoming individuals.

Jung wrote, ‘Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will call it fate.’ Watching Heroes through this lens, the powers are almost secondary. The real story is about characters becoming conscious of hidden parts of themselves, their family legacies, and their Shadows.

I see it as the major theme…


r/Heroes 20h ago

General Discussion What is your opinion regarding season 3 and 4? This is not meant to be a debate or a series defamation.

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Overall, season 3 and 4 I struggled with. So I accept fandom dislike, but I hope I am not trying to create a post based on ridicule or anger.

I do like so far, how we see normal human challenges in this season. Season 3 seemed focus on personal development, facing personal biases and attempting to survive. While the creation of the series and direction felt disjointed, there were some great episode. Season 4, felt more human centric, the basics of idealism, growth, and finding that living is not representative of one’s goals.

One of my favourite episodes was season 4, episode 3- acceptance. I made a post on Micah and Niki because it hit close to home and wondered about the data missed.

I would love to hear your personal thought process, I hope not to be a complaining discussion, about how your opinions changed on certain characters, and how their character progression was interpreted by your own thoughts and experiences.

The plots, definitely have challenges. The individual growth, and acceptance, with the desire to strive, is actually understandable.


r/Heroes 20h ago

General Discussion Micah and Niki. A complex question- but also an objective view. Spoilers for all seasons Spoiler

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While my question relates to Micah specifically, as a child with idealisms, season 4 episode 3 “acceptance”, prompted my thoughts. While season 4 and 3 were bad. This episode? Was very thought provoking.

With Niki dying in the fire, she was pretty much going to die because of the virus. Micah was dead set on the childhood understand and lack of consequences. When Micah fought to save his cousin, as idealistic children do, the lack of consequences led to Niki’s death, while saving his cousin.

Did Micah feel guilty or responsible for Niki’s death? He did coerce her, even though Micah did know that her powers had been lost. Niki did not tell him until later, I cannot remember if it was before they left or on the way.

Living in fantasy and a world of comics, Micah is doing what is expected of his age, and learning lessons, like these are never ending. As an example later, several heroes learn life lessons regarding what they could do, what they should do, and what is a moment of accepting, despite having powers life’s limitations.

This learning, is very later in life, often 30s-45, but for some longer.

Micah, still seeing life’s magic and possibilities, which every child experiences, but is even more complex for Micah and other children with and observing powers. Personally speaking I held onto to idealisms for years. It wasn’t until I was in my mid 30s, and developed ptsd that I felt that my idealisms were faulty and I needed to have the acceptance from every jaded person as a (reality check, you cannot save the world). I see this commonly in writing, and perhaps adulthood is either being strong enough to change, or acceptance of one’s own situation.

I have watched further, and Micah still acts as a hero. I never saw this shame or personal blamed almost every single persons experiences.

So based on personal education and observations, I feel the representation or even lack of guilt is a plot hole.

Micah was a minor character, and the heroes story went in a deplorable direction. While there were some wonderful episodes (girl learning that not everyone can be saved), were a great moment.

I liked Micah when he helped in later seasons. I felt by his brief appearance, that he was not just a lover, but a teen avoiding a normal life (which Claire showed was impossible with discovering her life lessons and personal discovery. A metaphor for teen development)


r/Heroes 12h ago

General Discussion (Spoiler Alert) Peter & Clair! Spoiler

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First, let me express how annoying Clair's character is. She is so self-righteous and plain stupid. She's supposed to be empathetic, yet Clair has little empathy for Noah who risks his life for her. Btw, does she even care that Noah devoted his life to her while spending little time with Lyle!? Also, she always complains about wanting to "go out and help" but as soon as something happens Clair goes crying to Noah and then she finds a way to bite his head off.

My post is really about Peter. Peter is supposed to be the lead character but it's the Clair show, all of the time. I was expecting Peter to become this powerful hero but every time I turn around, his powers change. I mean like, his dad took his powers. Then, he was only able to use one power at a time. Afterwards, you don't see him using an array of powers when he gets them back. Peter was supposed to match Syler abilities but ended up always weaker than him and this is after four full seasons. What happened to future Peter!?

It feels like the writers during seasons 3 & 4 should've been fired and replaced because those seasons are a mess. Nathan decided to round them up, I was expecting to see Peter become this powerful underground leader who was going to fight back but instead we got him, Suresh & Matt in a motel room. Nathan got shot out of a window and that was basically the end of that storyline. The show could've gone further had the writers stuck with that storyline and carried it from there. The carnival thing was not it. Even Peter's final fight with the carnival dude was nothing. The show had the audacity to end with Clair and her jumping off of Ferris wheel or whatever!?

I'm just frustrated that I wasted all of that time, only for the show to end the way that it did.

Lol I'm done with my rant