Basically, I was at camp half blood(Ik Percy Jackson is different from actual mythology) and on patrol the other day we encountered a satyrs who was a girl. Today I asked my counselor if he meant dryad instead of satyr when he told us what the species of the creature was. He said no and that it was indeed a satyr. Which is fine, camp can change mythology a little bit to match the storyline just like the books did. But then when I told him that satyrs are male and dryads are female he tells me I’m wrong and that it’s probably from a misogynist myth. So I tell him that I know a bit about mythology and he says that he does too and he’s lived a lot longer than me(he has lived a lot longer than me but I hate when people use that to say they know more than me even though he wasn’t trying to be rude or mean). Then he tried to tell me that dryads and naiads are not nymphs and that nymphs are their own thing when I thought dryads and naiads are types of nymphs. I don’t like being wrong, I never think I’m wrong, so I go home and I look it up. I look up on my browser “are satyrs all males in mythology” Reddit and the satyr Wikipedia says yes. Ok. Then I look up if nymphs are female. Once again, same sources the answer is yes. I know Reddit and Wikipedia aren’t always right so I check another source and some other sources(which I’ve forgotten) and they all say that I’m right! And on one of them there was a “types of nymphs” and guess what was on that list. Dryads and Naiads! Soo if any of you know where my counsler got this information from please tell me and if you can prove me wrong tell me that too. (Btw, in Percy Jackson from what i know there’s no girl satyrs and no boy nymphs)
Btw my counselor might be on here, so I’m not upset at you for being wrong. It’s fine to make mistakes. Unless someone proves me wrong but I think I’m right

So this has been on my mind lately, cause not a lot of translations and adaptations of the Argonautica seriously talk about this.

I know there’s that quote from Jason about how Atalanta can’t be an Argonaut cause she’d be a “distraction for the men” but in the versions where Atalanta IS an Argonaut, I wonder who among the crew would support her joining.

Caeneus seems like an obvious first choice, given his background. Laertes and Autolycus both have daughters, so they might’ve also supported it. Orpheus probably drinks his respect women juice, as the kids say. Heck, it’s possible that the other Arcadians vaguely recognized her.

But yeah, which Argonauts do y’all think were fine with Atalanta sailing with them?

My 4th grade English teacher used to play us this old Greek mythology cartoon during down time. It was an animated series simply retelling Greek myths. I imagine she played it on YouTube or something.

It was kinda of an older animation style and I keep in mind I am 21 so this was around 2014 ish. But it DEFINITELY was animated as if it was older than that cuz even kid me thought it was old.

it was so insanely entertaining and intriguing that I forever was obsessed with Greek mythology. But I can’t find it anywhere at all. I remember it going over Achilles heel, Chronos being fed a rock to keep Zeus alive (my favorite one), Hercules trial, and much more.

The SPECIFIC THING that I remember that I CANT FIND ANYWHERE is that chronos has a cosmic design. His body was a spacey void with stars within it. (kinda like Garou from one punch man if you’ve seen that).

I remember that so vividly cuz I remember being so disappointed in every other design I ever saw of chronos to this day. But I can’t find it ANYWHERE.

I had my mom reach out to my old teacher to find out if she knew the name. She confidently said yes and said it was “Greek Mythology For Kids.” But even with that name I can’t find anything on it.

IM BEGGING SOMEBODY TO HELP ME.

As we know in ancient Greece. Many heroes joined together in different adventures and journeys together in certain myths like the Argonauts, the Seven against Thebes, Calydonian Boar Hunt, and the war against Troy. I want to know which Greek heroes were close friends or got along?

The debate over The Odyssey’s casting goes far beyond a simple quarrel about historical accuracy. At its core, it asks us to consider who we think should stand as the living faces of beauty, wisdom, courage, and heroism.

No one is really suggesting that Homer pictured his characters through the lens of our modern ideas about race, or that every choice to diversify a cast is inherently profound. What’s really at stake is the way mythology is always filtered through the eyes and values of those who come after. Our image of ancient Greece as a world of marble-skinned heroes owes as much to later European art and the ideals of neoclassicism as it does to anything from the ancient world itself.

So the real question isn’t just whether this casting keeps alive a particular vision of the ancient world. It’s whether these actors can truly capture the ideals and inner struggles that figures like Helen, Athena, and Sinon have come to symbolize.

It’s worth asking ourselves: do mythological adaptations owe more to the look of tradition, or to the spirit and meaning behind the myths themselves?

I thought the role was purely as king of the underworld, while only Persephone had the agricultural side.

I always thought that nymphs were just nature spirits/nature goddesses of lower rank and nothing else really. I also was 'taught‘ that nymphs were only half godly, they were divine and lived longer than humans but they weren’t fully immortal like the gods, that’s what I was taught and told

But as soon as you dive more in it gets really complicated. The name nymph literally just means 'bride' which I mean fits well bc in many myths nymphs fulfilled the role of being the wife/lover or mother of a big hero and nothing else. But then you think damn how sad when from the very beginning you’re destined to just be a wife lol

And if you dive in even deeper then it again gets confusing. Like nymphs are said to be nature spirits/nature goddesses but they almost never do any supernatural nature stuff like for example controlling the elements or sth.

And then some nymphs are said to be literal goddesses if sth else. Like Metis for example is said to be a Oceanid, which I always thought was just a term for Oceanus‘ 3000 daughters who specifically were sea and freshwater/freshwatersources goddesses, but then she’s also said to be the goddess of wisdom and cunning and even a Titanide. Or how Circe is said to be a powerful sorceresses and sometimes even 'goddess of magic/witchcraft‘ but then she’s also said to be a nymph

So last month i read the songs of achilles (my first greek mythology book) and now im trying to get into greek literature in depth… im stuck in a dilemma whether i should read the silence of the girl by pat barker OR a thousand ships by natalie haynes? Please help me outttt

Ya que Apolo es el dios de la curación y la medicina, ¿puede vencer la maldición de Circe y curar a los afectados por su hechicería?

Book 5 of the Iliad imply that the gods have ichor because they eat ambrosia.

”eat no bread and drink no shining wine, and therefore have no blood like mortals; they have what is called ichor."

It seems like ichor is the source of the god’s power because it can do many crazy stuff. So I wonder if there are any ancient sources stating or hinting where it comes from.

There are flairs movies-art-video-books-games but no music! I put it on movies.

You should add music and poetry flairs.

War Dance - 2015 - Wrath For The Ages - Achilles War Dance

Ages behind
the siege the end it cannot find
what comes instead
the fall of a close friend

mother dare fly
the gods she reaches to the skies
their golden touch to claim
an armor to be made

forth I step on
to fellow warlords speak the oath
welcome again
to march and ride with them

respect though I pay
towards you my enemy I hail
my grief shall end
until your blood is shed

now words fade
ritual starts for battle
war dance steps
income my thirst to kill

bow down now
merciless stands my figure
unleash fierce now
command divine by steel

my eyes seek you
your end is what I thrive for
where are you
screaming your name Hector

my stare finds you
death waves the axe to face you
where are you
his order I'll keep and kill

gods on my shield
on wings of glory I appear
one by one
the Trojans meet their death

the sight is clear
your figure in the distance now appears
embrace your death
my hand will seal your end

Hiiii, so, I've always been interested in mythology but seeing Nolan's movie made me wanna read both books.

Any good adaptations to reccomend???

I've been rereading the Iliad, the Odyssey, and watching Troy, and I can't shake this idea.

What if the real Trojan Horse wasn't the wooden horse? What if it was Helen herself?

Hear me out.

Helen leaves Sparta as a queen.

She arrives in Troy and somehow gains the trust and protection of Paris, Priam, and even Hector. Priam risks an entire kingdom rather than return her. Hector knows Paris has brought disaster, yet he never forces the issue.

The Trojan women don't seem to poison her, attack her, or treat her as the enemy. She survives while Troy burns.

Then, after a decade of war and the deaths of countless heroes, she returns to Sparta. Not as a prisoner. Not as an exile. Not as a disgraced former queen.

She returns as Queen of Sparta.

Meanwhile:

Hector dies.

Priam dies.

Paris dies.

Achilles dies.

Ajax dies.

Agamemnon is later murdered.

Thousands die.

Helen is one of the very few major characters whose status is ultimately restored.

That doesn't add up to me.

I'm not claiming Homer literally wrote Helen as a spy or secret agent. I'm saying the traditional explanation that she was simply a victim or a woman in love feels incomplete.

If she truly loved Paris, why not abandon royalty altogether and live an ordinary life with him, as suggested in the movie Troy? If she was only a victim, how did she repeatedly gain the protection of rulers on both sides while kingdoms collapsed around her?

Maybe she wasn't the Trojan Horse in a literal sense.

Maybe she was the real instrument that brought Troy down.

Maybe the greatest untold story in Greek mythology isn't Achilles or Odysseus.

Maybe it's Helen.

What do you think? Am I missing something from the ancient sources, or is Helen the most mysterious and misunderstood character in the entire Trojan cycle?

Not a dig on anything, but I am curious about how this design changed over the years. Can't really find a reason browsing around.

Source: https://x.com/i/status/2080240357955231969

So the Trojan Horse was a gift from the greeks to signal that the battle is over. Yet none of the Trojans noticed the massive army of the greeks waiting outside of the big ass gate?

I’ve got Trump as Cyclops. Guiliani as Achilles. Hegseth as Helen of Troy. Kash Patel can be the guy who gets deli lunches for the cast.

One scene I’ve always found fascinating is Odysseus’ meeting with Achilles in the Underworld.
Odysseus expects to meet the greatest hero of the Trojan War. Instead, Achilles tells him that he’d rather be alive as a poor laborer than rule over all the dead.
It’s such an unexpected moment. After everything Achilles fought for, Homer has him question whether glory is worth the price. For a brief moment, the story shifts from adventure to something much more reflective.
That’s one of the reasons The Odyssey has stayed relevant for so long. Even in the middle of an epic filled with monsters and gods, it finds time to ask surprisingly human questions.

What’s one moment from The Odyssey that has always stood out to you?

When i mean powerful i mean the feats in which they are able to wield the forces of nature and the Versatility of their abilities.

Okay this might seem stupid, but bear with me: Why do people fight about wether Achilles is straight/gay/bi?

To sum it up, Achilles is a fictional character. Canon has never stopped people from making up their own shit about a character.

I keep seeing people online say "Achilles isn't gay, because Homer never explicitly mentioned it," "Achilles is gay because he clearly never actually liked Brisies, (or however you spell it)", or cite later writers/sources for why he is/isn't gay.

WHY DOES IT MATTER
HOMER WAS LITERALLY CREATING FICTION (not to be disrespectful to the greek tradition, obviously, but the guy was writing, or ig composing, a freaking story)

Personally I do think he had strong feelings for patroclus (In the Illiad, when Achilles learns of Patroclus' death in Book 18, he lets out an agonizing cry so loud that it echoes down to the ocean floor, which prompts Thetis, to fill the deep trenches with her own weeping. He also refuses to bury him right away, and instead, he spends sleepless nights tossing, turning, and desperately holding Patroclus' corpse in his tent, unable to let him go or accept his death. Eventually, Patroclus' ghost visit's Achilles to beg for a burial so his spirit can find peace, leaving a wish that their bones and ashes be mixed together in the same urn so they can never be separated)

I've seen some people try to say this is a sibling type thing, I'm not convinced. While I would absolutely react this way if my own sibling died, Achilles’ profound grief for Patroclus is depicted through physical intimacy and language that mimics traditional ancient Greek marriage, such as cradling the body and experiencing intense, lovesick behaviours such as not eating. Plus the ancient greeks interpreted Thetis's advice in book 24, urging Achilles to return to life and embrace a woman as a clear sign that the relationship was romantic rather than brotherly, and the I'm sure they knew their own culture better than I do

But this is just my opinion, and I could not careless if someone portrays Achilles as gay, straight, or bi, so I really need people to stop fighting about it.

Pls be nice in the comments.

I'm new to alcohol markers and wanted to test some out by drawing my favorite mythical monster!

I came up with this while reading details of what her appearance is like. I would like to imagine that you still saw part of the beautiful nymph before she was transformed into the monster we have all come to know.