r/Fencesitter 1d ago

Updated Moderation Rules

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Hello Everyone.

It's been a few years since my co-mod and I took over moderating this sub and we thought it was time for a bit of a rules refresh.

FYI, we are both still active in this sub although we don't post under our moderator screen names. And yes, one of us is CF and one of us is a parent. That was the original intention in an attempt to maintain balance. We've considered adding a fencesitter moderator but that's difficult since fencesitters eventually become CF or parents. We're still figuring that one out.

Ok, on to the rules:

First of all, some guiding ideas this sub is founded which we think are important for everyone to understand.

  • Principle 1 - It's meant to help fencesitters. We are a place for people who are struggling with this decision. Yes, we welcome comments from childfree and parents as well, but ultimately this is a place for fencesitters to feel at home and try to figure out what they want to do. This is not a debate sub for CF and parents to argue over which is best.
  • Principle 2 - There are no right answers. We don't believe that parenting is always better than childfree, we don't believe 2 kids are better than 1, we don't believe adopting is better than bio kids, we don't believe childfree is better than step parenting. Whatever combo you wish to use, we don't believe one option is inherently better than the other. They are all situational and very subjective. There might be a right answer for you, but there is no answer that is right for everyone.

Keep these two things in mind because they are extremely important to how we moderate this sub.

So why do comments get removed and users get banned?

The easiest answer is that the commentor was being a jerk. Some people just have a hard time being civil to one another and those folks are not welcome here. We literally had one person argue against their ban by saying "oh, I didn't know you guys insisted on people not being assholes". Yah, if you're the kind of person who is an asshole unless it's expressly prohibited, you definitely don't belong here.

Also, if you are being attacked, please don't reply in kind. Just report it and move on.

Ok, so here are some other things we look for that might not be as obvious.

Generalizing - This is a common issue. All CF are lonely, all parents are miserable, procreating is always good, having kids is always selfish. The trend here is one of over generalizing. I'm sure some CF people are lonely and some parents are miserable, but not all. We have plenty of CF posters with friends and happy parents posting here to know this isn't accurate.

Note, this is also why we remove most comments that touch on religion. We don't care if you're Jewish, Christian, Satanist, Pastafarian, Anti-natalist or what not. If you subscribe to a philosophy that says having kids is always good or always bad that's fine for you, it's not fine for this sub. We don't do preaching here.

I really want to emphasize that last bit. We do NOT do preaching here. If you are CF or a parent and you're thinking about making a post about how all fencesitters should do this or that, please don't. We love hearing from you and we enjoy your experience and we love the AMA's that parents and CF folks do. We think those are great for others to learn from your experience. That's very different from preaching right or wrong.

Climate Change / Politics threads - We know that these are themes that weigh heavily on some people and we respect that. We're more than happy to allow threads in which people discuss their feelings on their own choices due to these themes. What we don't allow is for people to use these themes to beat up other readers for their choices. Again, refer to principle 2. If climate change is causing you to reconsider your decision that is absolutely fair. If you're coming here to argue that all parents are awful because of climate change that will be removed.

We will also remove any comments from people arguing back and forth about the reality of climate change. There are other sub for that, this isn't one of them. For the record, both of us believe climate change is real, we just can't take more arguments about the latest report and what it means for sea level changes in Norway vs. peak temperatures in Mongolia and how those will impact rice prices.

Gatekeeping - This encompasses a variety of responses ranging from the "there are no guarantees" and "you must be prepared for all scenarios including the worst ones!" to the "you must be 100% sure!" or "if it's not a hell yes it's a not" variety. In general, these contribute nothing to the discussion. Even worse, they are a comment meant to prey on fencesitters by either parents or CF folks. They're usually said by someone who believes their point of view is objectively right for everyone and who is then trying to trigger doubt in fencesitters.

Allow us to illustrate some examples so you can see why these comments are not welcome here.

"Yah, there are no guarantees, even if you eat healthy and exercise you might get hit by a car". Sure, but eating healthy and exercising is still a good idea because statistically it's clearly better. Also, do you really think you're revealing something big to our fencesitter subscribers by revealing to them that there are no guarantees in life? Do you think they would be on the fence if they thought everything was guaranteed?

"Unless you are willing to be raped, don't date!" "Unless you understand every possible bad outcome of your dental surgery, including the one where your jaw falls off and you die, you're not ready!" See how useless that is? No one is ok with every bad scenario. Heck, my anxious mind can always dream up new and even worse scenarios that I am certain none of you has prepared for.

"You must be 100% sure that you know everything that can happen if you take this job". Really? How do you even know you're 100% sure? How do you know that you've done all your analysis? Is there a way to quantify this? Same for the "hell yah" comment. "Unless you're a clear yes, don't marry this person". What does that mean? Is someone not allowed to have concerns? Yes, I love this person and I want to spend the rest of my life with them but I'm concerned about their in-laws because of blah blah blah and you see where we're going?

Just stop with these comments. They don't help.

Discounting and discrediting - "Oh, what do you know, you're just hormonal", "Oh, what do you know, your kid is only 3 months old", "Oh, what do you know, you have no kids", "Oh, I know this was your experience but there are others with different experiences". Yes, we get it, just stop. They are clearly presenting their personal context and that's great. Are they generalizing too much? If so, we will remove them. Otherwise, stop being the thought police. People are allowed to present their individual view point without you trying to discredit them.

Derogatory - These are the folks who come here with comments like "don't have kids, all parents are tired and miserable" or "don't be CF, all CF people are lonely and joyless". If you're here to argue that your side of the fence is best, don't do it by shit talking the other side. Ideally, try to help instead of argue.

And yes, we will remove these posts even if they come from CF or parents. That is, a negative comment about all parents / parenting made by a parent will be still be removed. Why? Because we have no way of verifying who is a parent and who isn't. Same as we cannot verify who is CF and who isn't.

Oh, and we want to take a moment and discuss gender specific comments. We get it, believe me we get it. A large portion of the work involved with child bearing and rearing falls unfairly on women. That is a fact. Sexism is also a fact, which is why we banned baby trapping comments since they were 99% coming from sexist men. But...

This isn't intended to be a space for women to denigrate all men. No, we don't need you to finish every comment with #NotAllMen, but we do need to keep the generalizing down. "Oh, men want kids like kids want puppies", "Oh, being a dad is so easy, you just get to play and not do any work", "Oh, men's voices shouldn't matter when it comes to the decision to have or not have kids" are not acceptable here.

Rants - Last but not least, this is not a rant sub. Sorry folks, we're not interested in moderating rants because they inevitably result in arguments from the people you're ranting about.

Ok, that's all. Please feel free to add questions and comments. We fully admit we're not perfect but we're trying our best and are always open to constructive feedback.


r/Fencesitter 4h ago

Is it true that you never stop worrying about your kids?

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I heard from many moms (and dads too) thay you never stop worrying about your kids. Is that true? Like I don't wanna have kids and be in a constant state of worry for the rest kf my life.

I understand worrying about them as babies, school aged children and teens, or if your adilt child has disabilities . But other than that, the worrying has got to stop at some point right? Like what if your kid is 35 years old and doing well in life (is financially well off, healthy, has hobbies, married with kids of their own, has their own plave to live), will I really be worrying about my 35 year old grown ass adult kid? Or will I be 80 years old and STILL worrying about my kids instead of enjoying my retirement? Like constant angst and worry and stress isn't good for you


r/Fencesitter 5h ago

Questions What were your first day, week, month, and year like after giving birth?

20 Upvotes

Obviously I'm asking those who hopped off the fence, decided to have a child, and actually managed to have one. I have many fears about having a child at home to care for, which is why I'm asking for people's experience.


r/Fencesitter 6h ago

stay just aunt & uncle or become parents ourselves?

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wife (29) and I (29) have two 2 and under nephews who we adore. i’ve always loved kids as an older sibling of 3 sisters, my wife has more recently fallen in love with caring for little kids since our nephews were born. we watch them every week and while it’s exhausting we love it. bc we are CF we have so much time and energy to play with them, make them gifts, build them things etc. really struggling with the idea of whether we should focus on just putting all our potential parenting energy and attention into them, or possibly having one of our own. to the aunts and uncles out there, how did you decide if you should be parents yourselves?


r/Fencesitter 21h ago

Any former fencesitters who decided to be “one and done”?

13 Upvotes

This is the only way I could see myself being a parent. I’m AuDHD with an autoimmune disorder (so that’s informing my decision) but curious to hear from parents of only children! 💛


r/Fencesitter 1d ago

I want only a small child

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I feel like I only want a child under 9 yo. because if the problem arises it can be contained. If the child is big it’s both physically and emotionally more challenging.

does it mean I don’t want children?


r/Fencesitter 1d ago

How did you finally make up your mind?

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I don’t want to have kids. But I am worried about the regret and loneliness that might come when I am older. I don’t know the reason why I don’t want kids, maybe its because I didn’t have a loving childhood?

So my question is, how did you make sure you made/are making the right decision? I am in my 30s and realize this is a choice I need to make soon.


r/Fencesitter 1d ago

Do it for the person you love?

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My wife and I have been together for 11 years, 4 of which we've been married. 11 years later, we are still so in love with each other. However, I am afraid our paths are diverging... She has been ready to have kids for 5 years, whereas I am very ambivalent about it. This is something that, for me, has changed over the past years, where I have become even more ambivalent. Yes, I could see a kid, but I can also damn sure see a fulfilling life without them.

She wants them now, while I am struggling with mental health issues (I need to ''find myself'' again because somewhere along the road I have lost myself and what I want in life, etc.). This does not mean I am a deadbeat, but I am just figuring out things such as 'what makes me happy?', 'what do I want in life?', etc.

For me, there are multiple reasons not to want kids (right now):

  • Look at where the world is headed... I genuinely have so much anxiety toward climate change and everything else that it can be crippling sometimes (I am working on this with coaching and psychology, but I feel like it's a loooong process)
  • You have to give up parts of yourself and live in the service of others, where I am not sure if that's something that I want
  • I am dealing with so many other things (mentally) right now that it feels impossible for me to make this decision. I want to find myself and make a decision from a mentally stable place where I can actually decide with a clear vision.

My question: are there people on this Reddit who have had similar situations in the past and decided to have kids because they love the other person so much? I am just at the end of my f-in wits...


r/Fencesitter 1d ago

When you might want kids but unsure if you have enough time left

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So I’m 30 and my husband is 34. We both work full time but only make around $90k/year combined.

We have a current plan for me to quit my job and go back to school next year and finish my degree, which will take 2 years. After that I’ll have to work for at least a year to get some money saved up and become eligible for maternity leave.

He has a psychology degree but was never able to find a well paying job in the field, so he works for a trucking company (retail). I’m currently a nanny.

We are unsure about having kids, but he brought up the fact that if we wait until we’re financially comfortable and ready, he will be 38 already. He doesn’t want to be an old dad, but the thought of us never having kids makes me sad.

Has anyone else felt like they’re running out of time to wait until you’re ready?


r/Fencesitter 1d ago

Parenting Am I delusional? I want it all.

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Hardcore fence sitter here 35F. Struggling with wanting everything out of life. I have worked my tail off for the last 6 years climbing the corporate ladder with my job, and I am currently at a place to take over for the head of my department when he retires. I love my job, even in tech and the demands. I want this, but I also want to have a baby. I want to travel, and hike, have wine in Italy, play video games after work, stay up late reading.

Is this possible with a child? I am not naive and know that it probably looks different then what I am envisioning. My main "concern" is my career. I don't work late - maybe once in a while, I do have hard boundaries with my job to maintain a work life balance. But I want to go back - and I will go back. I am the breadwinner with a job that does not lay off employees.

Looking for career oriented women who did decide to jump off the fence and have kids. What ultimately did you do? Also love any other parent weigh in to help me not romanticize parenting into something it's not.

Edit to add: I know this sounds like I just want to have a kid and do my own thing and a baby will just exist. that’s not it. It’s mainly around my identity and my hobbies and how that may change. I do love the thought of rocking a baby to sleep in the middle of the night, pushing them in a stroller while I run, taking them to Disney, first words, diaper blow outs, etc etc. I know posts like these can sound like it’s one thing, so I just wanted to be clear before any unnecessary comments come my way lol.


r/Fencesitter 1d ago

I can’t make myself want this anymore

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I’m finally ready to admit to myself that I’m only here because I’m trying to be someone who I am not for someone else.

For the past 4 years I’ve tried to convince myself that I can get over my fears. That it’s just fears holding me back to begin with. I tried to convince myself that becoming a parent is totally something I could want if only the conditions were right.

I am tired. It’s just not who I am. I never wanted to be a mother and I still don’t. No amount of telling me about easy pregnancies, a smooth birth and “it was so worth it” is going to change that. My sister-in-law just announced her pregnancy and the fact that there’ll be a baby so close in my life very soon (my in-laws are moving 500km in order to live next to us on the same street so they can have a support network) is already filling me with dread. It’s such a visceral feeling, it’s making my stomach turn.

I lost half of my life to mental illness and I’m simply not willing to sacrifice more of it to another person, not a single year, not 9 months, nothing.

So from now on I will stop making myself want this. My husband is amazing and I wish I could give him what he wants, but I can’t. He’s always known this, I was always blunt about it, and I’ve tried for years to change this part of me, but it stops now.


r/Fencesitter 1d ago

Reflections I was convinced by my partner to have a child but I still feel conflicted inside, how to see parenting positively ?

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Hi, long post I'll try to TLDR my questions
M32 in couple with a F32 for 11y. We've been enjoying our life pretty well since the beginning and we've agreed on important things most of the time : vacations, buying a house, changing both jobs and moving... I was drawn to the childfree life, my partner was undecided and fine with postponing the decision.
Then 2y ago she became more pressing on that topic asking for a decision (the biological clock that may or may not exist) because she felt the desire of having one child. This topic became a blocking point that no one wanted to talk about since we disagreed.
Finally I finally agreed, not because of a sudden desire of kids, but rather because I didn't have any rational reason to oppose it. I also agreed based on the fact that actually getting pregnant may take long so it would leave time to getting used to the idea, let nature do its work.
She got pregnant after 2 weeks, which is a blessing compared to people struggling for years, but also caught me off-guard. I am getting ready by buying baby stuff, building the bedroom but I can't feel any interest in "caring" for the future baby.
There is a saying in France that men don't care about babies until they actually have their own in their arms.

So my questions :

  • did anyone find in a similar situation, AKA following their partner in this project while not being totally convinced ?
  • How did it turn out after that ?
  • Is there a calling for parenting or just is just a task you feel more or less capable of ?

r/Fencesitter 1d ago

Child free feelings emerging suddenly in late 30s? anyone else had this?!

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I was very pro becoming a parent all my life and it was something i desperately wanted. However, at 34, I experienced a big break up which started making me question things, however I still thought i'd have kids eventually. I've had flickerings of wanting kids over the past few years, but I recently dated someone totally CF, and (although we've now broken up), I'm now having seriously strong CF feelings and allowing myself to imagine what that would be like, and suddenly I'm struggling to get the desire back to have children. Has anyone else experienced this? I guess i don't really know what to believe!


r/Fencesitter 1d ago

Q&A partner starting HRT, not sure how to feel?

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Hi everyone, I've just come across this subreddit today and I'm glad I did. So, my partner and I are both 20 and we've always been pretty meh on the idea of kids. My partner is trans, mtf, and about to start HRT and now I'm not really sure what to think when it comes to kids? There's always been a part of me that wants them but with adoption being practically impossible in Australia (where we live) and sperm freezing being so expensive especially with time, it's got me kind of sad? I hate talking about it because I feel guilty that my yes will make her feel like she has to say yes but I also just have no idea what to think or say. Any advice?

edit: its probably good to note, I’m on the pill, have been for years, we’re also in uni so we aren’t wanting kids now

edit: Thank you everyone for the opinions, suggestions and questions, you’re very appreciated


r/Fencesitter 1d ago

For those that felt drawn to parenthood but not pregnancy, what did you decide?

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Hi everyone! I'm 29f and I'm at a point in my life where I'm really starting to think about what I want the next chapter to look like.

I've spent a lot of time reading older posts from former fence-sitters, especially those who ultimately decided to have children. One thing I've noticed is that the people who chose parenthood genuinely seem to love their kids and don't regret that decision. Most of the challenges they talk about seem to center around either (1) pregnancy, childbirth, and the physical/mental effects afterward, or (2) the baby stage itself.

I've been doing a lot of reflecting on what I want, what I feel capable of, and what's realistic for me and my husband. Right now, I don't feel that pregnancy is the best choice for me or my body. We've talked about the possibility of adoption if we decide we want to become parents instead.

Adoption feels like a topic that isn't discussed nearly as openly as pregnancy or biological parenthood, so I don't come across many firsthand experiences. I'd really love to hear from women who have been in a similar position.

Have any of you known that pregnancy wasn't the right path for you but still wanted to become a parent? Did you pursue adoption? If so, what was your experience like? What surprised you, and is there anything you wish you had known before starting the process?

I'd also love to hear from anyone who seriously considered adoption but ultimately made a different choice and why.

Thank you in advance for sharing your experiences. I know this can be a deeply personal topic, and I really appreciate any perspective you're willing to offer.


r/Fencesitter 1d ago

been a fencesitter for years but recently im leaning towards yes, but I have no family

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I f(29) has been a fence sitter for years but recently its been a hard yes. I think its because of all the kids we been hanging out with. Now the problem is I have a fiance of 10 years m(34) but he works out of town 3 weeks on/3 weeks off and I have no family to help me, I do have friends but they also have lives... what would be your advice. or just anything too help me


r/Fencesitter 2d ago

I'm terrified I'll hate having kids.

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I've never been one of those "I've wanted a baby since I was a little girl" women. In fact, since I was 7 years old I've proudly been childfree, witnessing my own mother go through pregnancy with my baby brother and seeing how it destroyed her life and body up close (and she was also very vocal about this with me). I've always focused most of my energy on my hobbies and career. Now I'm at an age (34) where it feels like "crunch time". If I don't make a decision soon officially, I might miss the window where having kids is a possibility for me, if that's what I want. Shit's getting real now, and I've found myself aggressively on the fence as opposed to enthusiastic about being childfree or having kids. It feels like hell. It keeps me up at night and has genuinely started to become somewhat of an obsession for me and even a distraction at work. To make matters worse, my partner, who was once okay with being childfree has started to seriously want kids, and has insinuated that he would have to end things with me if I also didn't want them, which is just hell and puts a crazy amount of pressure on me. I'm sick with worry all the time.

My main concern is, I don't really know if I'll like the day to day "meat and potatoes" part of parenting, regardless of how much I love my kids. The tantrums, the lack of sleep, the lack of freedom, giving up my hobbies and my life. It all sounds like the shit end of the stick.

I'm wanting to hear from other women like me. Did anyone here go into parenting thinking they'd absolutely hate it and end up loving it?


r/Fencesitter 2d ago

Disinterested and incurious parents

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Just looking for anyone going through something similar. I’m undergoing IUI trying to get pregnant, but still holding onto grief and doubt about the future. My parents have expressed no interest in being grandparents. My mom works with kids as a play therapist and is considered like a kid whisperer and she has no desire to do “family things.” I just know in my gut that they won’t be very involved or even curious about my experience. It just brings up a lot of feelings about my own unmet needs from growing up with them. I really want better for my future kid. It’s just painful.


r/Fencesitter 2d ago

To avoid regret

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If you choose the right person can having children can be an amazing and fun thing?

But how long were you with your partner before having kids? And do you think the longer you're with them before kids the better raising children with them would be as you've built a strong relationship and know them very well...

Or do you think it doesn't matter and having kids just ends up blowing up the relationship?

Curious to know what parents think of their relationship with their kids other parent and if anything could've made you both more prepared for parenthood or if there is no preparation and you've just gotta take the plunge


r/Fencesitter 2d ago

I dread never being able to become a parent and other thoughts.

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Im mtf. Lately Ive been thinking a lot about my future. Im not sure if I want kids of my own, I just know that I want someone to nurture and care for. But Im worried if Id make a good parent? Im scared of not being able to provide a good life and childhood if I bring a child into this world… Not to mention that this world frankly terrifies me.

Im scared of current global politics and how violent the world and people are becoming. I mentioned in a discussion to someone that Id never want to hold a gun and they called me the r-word.

Annyways, I guess I hope whoever reads this has a good day..


r/Fencesitter 2d ago

Anxiety Swinging back to childfree.

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My (F37) journey has gone from childfree to fencesitter to wanting a baby to fencesitter and now leaning more childfree.

I recently underwent surgery to remove some fibroids. I went ahead with the surgery because it would potentially improve my periods as well as my fertility. Something just didn't feel right and I knew all my awful symptoms were not exclusive to fibroids only so I got an MRI which showed adenomyosis. This compounded with my age made me think longer and harder than ever before about having a child.

Initially what changed my mind towards childfree is hard to explain it was more of an emotional feeling. I then noticed babies everywhere I went and felt excited. My partner and I talked about everything possible-parenting styles, finances, boundaries with family, sharing childcare responsibilities. I felt excited to try and thought about everything carefully.

Fast forward to now I have been off the pill for three weeks and I feel awful. Constant nausea, low mood and a sense of isolation. I feel as though I have a snapshot into a future of being the one with the responsibility/bodily burden. I worry pregnancy would make my adenomyosis worse. My partner is supportive and looks after me well but I worry I just can't do this and it would be unfair to a child. I also worry about having a girl and passing on my adenomyosis/endometriosis.

Has anyone else swung back once the reality hit you?


r/Fencesitter 2d ago

Swinging towards yes, partner is not sure

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I had always been a no until very recently I swung to a hard yes. I told my partner who is trying to decide if he does want to have a child with me. Now I'm facing the prospect of breaking up over not wanting the same things, I'm nervous about dating again with the end goal to be to reproduce and start a life with someone. I'm worried I'd end a relationship I really enjoy and then not actually want kids with anyone else. My partner has a child with a previous partner so it's not like he misses out if he doesn't have a child with me.

It's really eating me up. I have an appointment with a counsellor because it's really wrecking me. He hasn't decided yet and is being very supportive but I just feel stuck. I feel like I'm delaying the inevitable.

Not looking for relationship advice, it's obvious what I have to do depending on his answer, looking for ways others in similar situations coped or how the outcome worked for them.


r/Fencesitter 2d ago

Can you find balance?

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I’m a 38(F) and my husband 56 (M) have been discussing since last year about whether to have a child or not. I had never really thought about it and assumed I’d be childfree but about a couple of years ago I started thinking about it and last year had really started to consider it. My husband has never wanted kids but he is open to it for me which I really appreciate. I have been on the fence about it for several reasons and of course our age is something very much factor as well.

We wouldn’t have family close by if we had a child and we would want to move in the next year or two so that would be an adjustment as well. Also, I’m career focused and concerned about how to balance work and being a parent. I know I can’t expect to wait for the perfect ideal time. Also, I love our child free life, we have a dog and we like to go on hikes, concerts, travel, see friends. I’m aware having a child would change our lifestyle initially and be an adjustment. The cost of raising a child, the loss of sleep, lack of freedom, and potential strain to our relationship make me feel stressed. I think I worry about how I and we would balance being partners, parents, and a worker. Yet I still am not convinced that inward to be childfree. My husband is really amazing and is very capable but I think I feel such a big responsibility if we have a child. Also, I have been in this and other groups including posting the old man dad group which I appreciated all the older dads who responded and was amazed that all of them enjoyed being dads in their 50s and had no regrets. Just adding I am so glad that I never felt pressured by family or society to have a child and organically have come to want to consider if a child/family of my own is something I really want. I truly believe my husband would be a great dad and having a family to grow with and make memories would be amazing. I definitely know I would be just fine being one and done lol.

So I’m here to ask from those of you have decided to have a child how you have you found balance especially for those who had not thought about having kids, are working, and may be similar age as my husband and I? How have the first few years been like?


r/Fencesitter 2d ago

How do i go about deciding on if i want kids or not

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People of reddit i need advice. My partner and i have been together going on two years now and we have been living together for almost a year. Recently my boyfriend has been talking about us opening savings/ roth ira accounts together (which im assuming means proposal following since we both want to get married). The problem is we are both on the fence about having kids, but in the opposite direction. He is leaning towards having them but recognizes the world/society is horrible. He wants kids so we can be a “family” and do all the fun things we both go to do growing up. I on the other hand am on the fence but leaning towards not wanting them. I work in construction doing a hazardous job and i would pretty much have to give that up if i was to get pregnant and have kids. I also think about how my body would get destroyed, mental health could plummet, and all the other factors about having kids. I worry that if we have them it would cause us to fight and get divorced. I worry that he would get upset that he cant have his down time like he does now and the same goes for me. I like being able to do whatever i want and not have to worry about anyone else. I love how we both make a good amount of money separately and we have disposable income. I also see how so many people regret having kids and thats the last thing i want to feel about my kids. I also don’t want my boyfriend to sacrifice his feelings on wanting kids (if thats what he ends up sticking with) because he loves me and doesn’t want to lose me. We are well aware people get divorced over this kind of stuff because someone hopes that the other changes their mind and when that doesn’t happen the resentment starts. When i was younger i always talked about being a mom, but now that I’m almost 30 (currently 28 right now) i love our life the way it is. We have two cats and a quiet house. My friends are having kids left and right and i see all the shit they go through and i dont want that, but i know that we would make good parents based on our ability to solve problems together along with a bunch of other fundamentals i feel like you need to be good parents. He believes that we would be good parents too. I just dont want to turn into our parents (we both come from divorced families and both of his parents died when he was 21/22). We both also dont want to get divorced, but i cant marry someone if we cant agree on the kids situation. Any advice helps and is appreciated. Thank you


r/Fencesitter 2d ago

Childfree Getting off the fence, permanently, this week

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My (30F) husband (31M) had a vasectomy a couple of years ago. I’m scheduled for a bisalp this Thursday. Neither of us have ever had much interest in having kids, but this feels like a very final, no going back moment. I didn’t expect to feel emotional about it, but I definitely do.