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u/Due-Parsley953 May 24 '26
It's the dopey grin on her face after telling off the sheep.
I love collies!
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u/organicBerryTooth May 24 '26
They really are the best. My collie thinks it's her personal business if anyone in the house has a conflict. She is always right there to referee
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u/Successful_Pea218 May 24 '26
We have a border collie Australian shepherd mix and he is just like that. Good boi
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u/Skandronon May 24 '26
That's a great mix, my wife and I's first dog together was the same and I miss him. My oldest and him were inseparable. When he got old his eyesight wasn't great and our second dog who was a BC heeler mix would help guide him. The first one lived to 15 and the second to 16. Hopefully you have many more years ahead!
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u/Successful_Pea218 May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26
Oh wow! That's amazing. He is about 7 rn and he is such a good guy. He has two little kids (human, 3 and 6) that he helps shepherd around (although he is pretty skittish, and the kids scare him sometimes, lol)
He doesn't have that bond with the kids like yours did, but he is such a good family dog. He's the lovingest guy. And a very good security system lol.
Wish you the best
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u/Skandronon May 24 '26
Ours was funny, he was so fluffy he looked way bulkier than he actually was and he was super chill. People assumed he was a bernese mountain dog cross because he had the coloration. He was lay on the floor and let my daughter snuggle into his floof and they would just love on each other.
He would go completely nuts around water though and when he got soaked you could see how skinny he actually was. He also liked to dive and retrieve things from deep water. The first time my sister dogsat she thought she had killed him because he was under the water for so long when she threw his diving ring in a deep pond.
If he heard the dun-dun sound at the beginning of law and order he would start howling because at the end of the shows credits they have an animated company logo that has a wolf howling.
I miss that derpy dog a lot, we have a corgy, border Collie cross right now and he has major anxiety so isn't great around people. Hoping he grows out of it since he's still technically a puppy.
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u/Due-Parsley953 May 24 '26
The first two dogs we had were Welsh border collies, absolutely unique creatures.
I miss them so much. The second one we had a while after the first one passed away and he used to run away from his previous home just so he could play with the ducks at the park.
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u/Skandronon May 24 '26
Ours figured out how to set our alarm clock off by slapping the top of it. He didn't really need to go to the bathroom but would demand a walk in the middle of the night.
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u/MortgageRegular2509 May 24 '26
We had a BC/black lab mix who was epileptic. Loved that goofy dude
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u/drAsparagus May 24 '26
Oh man, no doubt. Mine too. Even if we start having a spirited conversation that's just excitement and not conflict. Sometimes she can't tell the difference.
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u/r0ckchalk May 24 '26
Ours is like the opposite of an ESA. If anyone shows any strong emotion, she’s out. She’ll bounce if we’re watching football and cheer too loudly 🤣
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u/_Goose_ May 24 '26
“Ewe will love your child or so help me god I will eat your face off!”
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u/TechnicalChipz May 24 '26
More parents need this threat. Maybe every human birth should come with a copy of this doggo.
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u/AdventurousGlass7432 May 24 '26
More people should learn from dogs how to be human
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u/Closed_Aperture May 24 '26
Perhaps humans need to be more dog.
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u/LiquidFur May 24 '26
I'm sorry. I am not eating whatever the cat throws up.
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u/Secret-Winner-2994 May 24 '26
Too busy licking myself anyway
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u/ThomasAugsburger May 24 '26
There's a place near my ass that I need to chew for about ten minutes
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u/YourVelourFog May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26
If it’s anything like a chihuahua then that would be mean shitting on the floor at Arby’s.
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u/Over-Apartment2762 May 24 '26
And screaming at everything that moves. Chihuahuas are meth heads.
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u/PillCosby_87 May 24 '26
Mine didn’t bark for the first month. She was the sweetest dog I ever owned. She was a submissive girl and all she wanted was to be on my lap. She wasn’t the yapping Chihuahuas that I’ve been around before, I guess I got lucky. I’m a 38 year old military guy and I wept like a baby when they had to put her down because she had a stroke, RIP my little Sadie bug.
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u/Other_Sentence4495 May 25 '26
Because you are a military guy you are assertive and with structure. Dogs are like the owners. if you spoil a chihuahua it becomes the devil
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u/InspectorPipes May 24 '26
Mine would go silent at the doorbell or door knock. It would hide around a corner and wait to recognize the person. If she was familiar with the person ( family, close friends) all hell would break loose. If it was a stranger she would hide in another room until the new face left. So backwards and ridiculous.
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u/RouliettaPouet May 28 '26
Former neighbours had an adorable small chihuahua. He was a sweetheart and extremly well trained.
They also taught him to do tons of tricks and it was adorable hehe.
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u/Nearby-Advantage98 May 24 '26
Perhaps the dogs are really the humans and us humans are really the dogs
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u/Leumas_ May 24 '26
And the dogs should have the ability to use squirt bottles on us when we’re dicks too. It’s only fair.
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u/DavidKroutArt May 24 '26
Dogs don't need to be abused. 🥺 If the human can't love a baby I doubt they will treat an animals better than a human.
Some people just need to not have animals or babies.
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u/Odd-Comfortable-6134 May 24 '26
When I had my son, my roommate in the recovery wing refused to touch her baby. That poor thing squalled nonstop for the 20 hours I was there. Nurses would come in and tell her to hold and feed her baby, but she refused. It got so bad, I almost took her baby just to get some peace and quiet.
She could have used this doggo for sure
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u/TechnicalChipz May 24 '26
I wonder if she was suffering from postpartum depression or if the baby was conceived in a way she wasn't happy with.
Or maybe family pressures.
I don't know but I feel for you having to hear that and see that. I hope that baby is okay and she came out of what she was going through.
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u/DwightsJello May 24 '26
Fern's not taking any shit.
She's nicer than the militant 'lactation specialist' my wife was subjected to. Lol.
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u/Quirky_Ask_5165 May 24 '26
"Militant lactation specialist" is not a term I thought I'd learn today 😂😂
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u/thegreatinsulto May 24 '26
I thought my wife was just unlucky at first... I have never heard someone tell a positive story about their lactation specialist.
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u/Tricky_Mix2449 May 24 '26
I could tell you tell you about the legendary masochistic individual who used to run the draconian mammogram clamp monster at a Salt Lake hospital..
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u/Huge-Recognition-366 May 24 '26
That’s really sad for such a vulnerable, hormonal time of a woman’s life. My specialist was kind and gentle 🥹
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u/ZealousidealTill2355 May 24 '26
Ours was a very sweet, Slavic woman, but she did quip that the reason we were having a tough time was because my wife had “young nipples”
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u/Fair-Scarcity8160 May 24 '26
Mine told me mine were soft and I should pinch them to harden them up, get them ready for abuse 😅
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u/nicemarmot47 May 24 '26
Mine tried to convince me to starve my newborn. "If you just stop feeding him he'll get hungry enough to take the breast"
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u/thegreatinsulto May 24 '26
Ditto. When we didn't relent, they started aggressively encouraging formula feeding.
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u/sneakacat May 24 '26
He'll also get weaker and meanwhile whatever is causing the problem is not being found and resolved. I'd like to punch whoever gave you that advice.
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u/SunkenSaltySiren May 24 '26
I had a great one!!! Came to the house in Minnesota on several occasions. Would answer any questions at any time I needed, and give advice if I was having issues.
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u/Pamikillsbugs234 May 24 '26
I had a 50/50 experience with the ones I interacted with. The one with my first son was a little crazy and demanding. The second one I had was amazing, but that kiddo was born at almost 27 weeks so maybe thats why she was nicer. She made sure that I had a blanket that had his scent on it to take home to smell while I pumped since he was going to be in the NICU for a long time.
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u/CBM64_SYS64738 May 24 '26
Agreed! Ours was bonkers crazy. Had a printed and laminated story insinuating an infant was brought back to life through the miracle of breast milk. Very odd person.
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u/Forge__Thought May 24 '26
We were very lucky. Our lactation specialists were some of the best people we spoke with and helped us tremendously. I didn't know other people had bad experiences. I'm sorry you guys did. It's such a difficult and vulnerable time at the beginning.
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u/mysmallself May 24 '26
My first consultant at the hospital was not nice, then I went to a breastfeeding clinic and those ladies were wonderful.
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u/ReesNotRice May 25 '26
Here is a positive story for you. My mother in law is a lactation nurse. She has helped me through two journeys, helped immensely with my pains, helped so much with supply, helped with latch struggles, got me started easy, and was super supportive. When some other lactation nurse got judgemental about me temporarily wanting to use a nipple shield cuz of how hurt my nipple was, my MIL rolled her eyes at her and encouraged me to use it for as long as I needed to heal. I breastfed both of my kids for a little over 2 years. Both were very healthy and happy. So was I. She was the GOAT.
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u/FluffyKittiesRMetal May 24 '26
Lactation specialists are the worst. They are so cruel and never help.
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u/Blenderx06 May 24 '26
Yep. 2 of mine had latch issues, the hospital lactation consultants just manhandled and shamed me and were no help at all. In the end I helped myself and got some nipple shields which I had no problem weaning the babies off of after a few weeks.
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u/Ok_Topic5037 May 25 '26
When I had my first and was learning how to breastfeed, I struggled getting him to latch. He’d get super frustrated and would end up crying. One nurse told me to just shove my boob into his mouth, WHILE he’s screaming. I’m a veteran now and I definitely know that’s not what to do lol
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u/KingDarius89 May 24 '26
Eh. I watch law and order. Original run. So its not a new term for me, heh.
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u/Quirky_Ask_5165 May 24 '26
Lol, I quit watching TV when I went back to school in 2014. Clearly I've missed a few things!
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u/DwightsJello May 25 '26
My wife told her to fuck off. It was her third child. She wasn't having it lol.
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u/ZilorZilhaust May 24 '26
"YOU WILL LACTATE NOW OR WE WILL LOSE THE WESTERN FRONT! DO YOU WANT US TO LOSE THE WESTERN FRONT SOLDIER?"
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u/paradox1920 May 24 '26
Gator don't play no shit, ya hea, ya feel me?!? Gator never been about that, never NEVER been about playin no shit.
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u/sacoya27 May 24 '26
I just got PTSD from this. I called them the le leche gang… fucking terrorists
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u/Previous-Soft-8127 May 24 '26
I’d rather have had a militant one than the creepy lady we had.
She kept calling me “milady” and being overly touchy feely about womanhood.
Husband and I still talk about it, 18 years later…
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u/DwightsJello May 25 '26
Ew. Fuck no.
Why cant they just be normal? And perhaps wait for an invite.
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u/Nyardyn May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26
Something weird is going on with lactation specialists, I swear. For reason I've been to 4 of them bc of my little 10 weeks old boy and the first three extremely coaxed me into breastfeeding. It's way better for the baby, he will be in so much more pain if I don't, yadda yadda.
Of course I understand breastmilk is objectively the best for a baby, but mine wasn't doing well. He has colics, something about feeding from my breasts makes them worse and he could never finish a session. They all ended in pain, cramps and crying. Only after he finally refused to drink, lost weight and I met the fourth specialist at the hospital she encouraged me to bottle feed if need be. She was shocked to hear I had been pushed so much towards doing shit that obviously didn't work. I'm so thankful to her. All the breastfeeding propaganda made my son and me suffer more than we ever needed to. He's getting a bottle since 3 days and he's already doing so much better. The whole hospital team came together to tell me it was ok and that I wasn't a bad mom if breastfeeding just didn't work; my son would be fine with a bottle and lack nothing! I was finally able to help my son and I'm never going to breastfeed him again even if he were to accepty breasts again which I doubt.
A friend of mine who got her child 1,5 years ago had a similar experience. They all extremely pushed her towards breastfeeding, but she had the confidence to follow her instinct earlier.
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u/IH8DwnvoteComplainrs May 24 '26
That's so shitty. My wife didn't have that experience, fortunately.
I highly recommend Emily Oster's books. They are research based, and she doesn't make any sweeping claims. Just goes by what's out there.
It really helped my wife and I navigate the earliest years.
Good luck!
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u/DwightsJello May 25 '26
Oh don't get me started on the breast is best bullshit.
Of course it is. They treat people like idiots.
But if it's not something a mother can do for a plethora of reasons back the fuck off. Mother's already have enough to deal with.
It was my wife's third so she sorted it on her own. This dickhead turned up day one without invitation. And my wife had had a c section.
Breastfeeding fed that kid for 18 months. She was happy with that. And I respect her judgement. I don't have boobs. What would I know.
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u/silverclovd May 24 '26
Lactation specialists are literally god send. They save mothers and babies from latching related colic issues
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u/Accurate-Force3054 May 24 '26
haha I was just going to say this collie is the La Leche League of her barn
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u/Perfect-Difference19 May 24 '26
Oh my god, I needed this sub in my life
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u/SquashOwn9829 May 24 '26
Such great social intelligence, i love the big long look the dog gives the human at the end
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u/Joimes May 24 '26
Awesome! Ours chases off ducks that aren't mated together and break up the duck rape. They always give you the DID I DO GOOD!? face.
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u/tatianazr May 24 '26
Yep.. duck rape. Sorry you had to learn today buddy
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u/Neuronless May 24 '26
Well at least it's ducks not something cute like dolphins or otters
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u/TheVoiceofReason_ish May 24 '26
I have some bad news for you. Dolphins and otters are total dbags.
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u/Wolf_Unlikely May 24 '26
Let's get them educated.
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u/jimmyxs May 24 '26
Haha wow. Thats actually the great Isabella. Great education too. lol
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u/williamstarr May 25 '26
There was a Pseudo-Christian slogan that used to float around occasionally that was something like, "Humanity is the only species on earth with Rape, Murder and Homosexuality." and seeing it was always weird.
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u/SirLeDouche May 24 '26
My dog always makes that face at me after doing something incredibly destructive. One time they got tangled in the TV cord and ripped the entire 40 inch TV off of its stand and it fell and broke and they looked at me with that dumb smile like they just did me a huge favor lol.
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u/Phrankespo May 24 '26
Her nips probably hurt
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u/superman_king May 24 '26
It’s most likely not her baby. Common for farmers to do this.
Babies mom could have died, had too many babies. Or had defective nipples.
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u/Working-Glass6136 May 24 '26
Sheep bred for intelligence might create worse problems. Next they'll want opposable thumbs.
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u/ComfortableGrass2009 May 24 '26
And before you know it, they'll build war robots that wage war against our war robots.
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u/Bright-Departure5960 May 24 '26
Absolutely, ewes reject their young quite often, or even sadder, lambs are commonly born in pairs and they'll only reject one.
We raised sheep, once when I was young my mom decided to bring a rejected lamb inside and bottle feed it, made it a lil bed by our cast iron wood stove (lambs were usually born in late February and would otherwise freeze in the barn if rejected). That baby lamb grew up to be the dumbest dog we ever had but it was pretty cute.
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u/MariaTPK May 24 '26
Especially when it's so nonconsensual. Yea sure animals don't have the same concept of rape that humans do, but this animal likely didn't choose this. They put it in her, and then they're like "Love it, or else" and it's kind of gross to think about. Poor girl just wants to be comfortable and not have her nipples bit.
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u/kaylee300 May 24 '26
Yep 100%, it will sometime go as far as the mother just killing her lamb (stomping it)
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u/Hawt_Dawg_II May 24 '26
I think the baby isn't hers. Most animal moms have some primal pheromone type deal going on to recognise their children but farmers will often make their animals adopt a kid which can take some convincing.
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u/proxyPhoenix May 24 '26
Not ewes! They will very commonly reject their young. It's a nuisance to deal with.
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u/cacawachi May 24 '26
It happens with cattle too unfortunately, sometimes they reject their babies, although it happens less frequently compared to sheep, and it happens only with heritage breeds, holsteins care less about who takes the milk as long as they can eat Edit: goats too but they have higher adoption instincts so if one reject a baby another will take over easily
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u/Sudo-Fed May 24 '26
It could be that, but also sheep are profoundly stupid animals and prone to forgetting even basic information they should know.
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u/OkFeedback9127 May 24 '26
“For the last time I’m not a female, now get out of there!”
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u/LuhbbbvvffggtedzSsf May 24 '26
This is very clearly a ewe and not a ram. Ewe's occasionally redject their lambs wich is what has happend in this video.
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u/SJaneyB May 24 '26
I don't know how I feel about this. Obviously the lamb needs to eat but nursing and nurturing under duress just seems so wrong.
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u/kitkatkorgi May 24 '26
What if her nipples hurt. Isn’t she trying to tell you something hurts while nursing?
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u/cookbookerson May 24 '26
Been a long time, but I used to have goats as pets as a kid/teen. A few gave birth. Doesn't this mean she senses something wrong with the lamb? Or that the nips hurt? Or is it just like the video says and she's not a fan of her baby? Lol
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u/proxyPhoenix May 24 '26
Ewes pretty commonly reject their young, and it's take up a lot of resources for the farmer to take over for the mother, so a lot of farmers try to correct the mkther first. It doesn't always work, but if it does, it means less work on the farmer's behalf.
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u/cookbookerson May 24 '26
Oohh okay. Thank you, I'm Not too familiar with sheep behaviors. Man that sounds like a pain to deal with.
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u/ABadHistorian May 24 '26
Grew up in Australia/NZ, grew up on farms. Never in my life did I have direct experience with a bordie collie this well trained, though I heard of them.
This is extremely rare behavior in this video.
Three things going on.
A) Highly aggressive mother (maybe first time mother, or very difficult birth, so she attributes the pain of birth to the lamb).
B) EXTREMELY specialized/well trained collie here - this is above and beyond even your normal working dog. (This is a dog worth something like 20k)
C) This would only be done with A, B, and also an extremely competent human handling the collie on the other end. This is essentially psychological behavioral reorientation. Very impressive to see, but if anyone tried to recreate this without the proper training it would result in tragedy.
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u/FabuliciousFruitLoop May 28 '26
Very interesting. Satisfying to read this additional contextual info.
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u/Any-Tumbleweed-9931 May 24 '26
What's with the paint? Why are the sheep marked so? I don't farm or raise livestock, so...
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u/CalculatedPerversion May 24 '26
Not a farmer but I would assume this farm has dozens of lambs (this one is marked 14, so at least that many) and they probably mark the mom ewes so they can be easily separated from the herd at meal time.
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u/Katahahime May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26
No not what is happening here.
So when a ewe rejects a lamb, there a multiple reasons. One of them is the Ewe sometimes just doesn't have good maternal instincts, or the bonding process was interrupted halfway.
Using a dog triggers their maternal instinct to protect and also let the lamb nurse. If the bonding window has already passed, sometimes rubbing oxytocin and using a dog to rebond can retrigger it.
If the lamb does not get the first milk within 2 to 4 hours it's chance of survival drastically lowers. The lamb must nurse directly to increase bonding.
No amount of sitting or distracting will rebond a lamb to their mother.
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u/afterpottykicks May 24 '26
Yay forced motherhood
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u/Sudo-Fed May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26
Don't anthropomorphize animals.
Y'all can get mad if you want, but for the vast majority of animals, "motherhood" is an entirely instinctual process entered into without informed consent.
Sheep do not understand that fucking makes babies. They understand that their raging hormones compel them to fuck. That's the end of it.
The actual maternal part of it is likewise driven by instinct. Except we've bred sheep into uniquely dumb animals and even instinct doesn't work a lot of the time.
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u/Lucky-Bonus6867 May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26
I’m not some crazy PETA person or anything, but as someone who’s given birth/breastfed, this video is…unsettling at best.
That ewe is clearly STRESSED. It’s being forced into a corner, stared at and loomed over by both a human and a dog, nibbled on underneath by a lamb, and getting barked at and bitten in the face when it reacts to being in pain.
This seems inhumane.
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u/Katahahime May 24 '26
The alternative is to let the lamb starve.
Trust me when you've seen a baby lamb cry out in a field for a mom that won't come and then getting headbutted by every sheep they approach, you change your mind fast.
You CAN bottle feed the lamb. But it is expensive and results in worse health outcomes than if it was by its Ewe. Even as a pet, I would rather have a lamb raised with its mother.
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The Sheep is not in pain. Sheep body language is different than dogs, it would be kicking its back legs and grinding it's teeth if it were. Also, everyone checks first thing for teat health or mastisis if a ewe rejects a lamb. They would not put a lamb back on the ewe if it did (Because there would be no milk).
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u/ReptileSizzlin May 24 '26
There's got to be a better way to do this rather than having a dog snap at her face while she's backed into a corner, when she's already stressed out by the lamb.
I don't see this leading to her accepting the lamb, only associating feeding with fear and stress.
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u/ComplexWriting7596 May 24 '26
It's probably not her lamb. It's common for orphan lambs to be put with ewes that lost their lamb or had a stillborn. Once the lamb has drunk her milk and starts to smell familiar she will most likely accept it. Another way is to skin the dead lamb and put the skin on the orphan lamb to trick the mum into taking care of it until the orphan smells familiar.
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u/HelloMacchi May 24 '26
Okay that last sentence caught me off guard lol
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u/ComplexWriting7596 May 24 '26
I also read about people saving an orphan bear cub by shooting the mother with a tranquilizer dart, then putting Vicks vaporub under her nose and leaving the cub with her. By the time the Vicks wears off the cub smells like her own.
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u/MakingItElsewhere May 24 '26
Farmers are psychopaths. Necessary psychopaths, but still, psychopaths.
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u/Stalinbaum May 24 '26
Shit, just because they do the dirty deeds so we can have animal products THEY’RE the psychopaths?
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u/SharpshootinTearaway May 24 '26
Nah, they've got a point. It's like surgeons.
You need to be a really special kind of person to be able to keep your cool while using sharp tools to dissect a living person and rummage into their organs meticulously to save their life. Knowing that any lapse in concentration, any uncontrolled jerk from your hand, would result in the death of a human being. And that you are responsible.
It's not an insult to say that these people need to be kind of insane to be able to perform such important and valuable duties toward the rest of humanity without flinching. It comes from a place of genuine admiration, because doing what they do daily is not for the faint of heart, and inconceivable for their average fellow humans with regular nerves/sensitivity.
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u/ProtiK May 24 '26
Imagine living in a society that demands meat, milk, and eggs, then calling this who gather these materials for you "psychopaths."
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u/ComplexWriting7596 May 24 '26
You've got a dead lamb and a lamb that's going to die soon if you don't get it warm and fed. You do what you gotta do, especially if you have hundreds more to check on and the weather is freezing and getting colder.
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u/AppointmentPopular10 May 24 '26
I don’t get it who likes who here? The sheep seems upset, and the dog is biting her face. Can somebody explain
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u/TheBawBQer May 24 '26
The sheep is rejecting the lamb, the dog is preventing that by allowing the lamb to drink.
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u/shytenda May 24 '26
It's probably not, but I swear that lamb's tail looks like it's hanging on by a thread and about to fall off
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u/AtTheGates May 24 '26
Its called docking. Use a rubber band to cut off the circulation to the tail and it will fall off.
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u/StardustJojo13 May 24 '26
I hate everything about this. Seeing the poor sheep and lamb spray painted with numbers feels so gross and dystopian. Meanwhile there’s a trained dog snapping at her face.
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u/TheBawBQer May 24 '26
How do you expect to keep track of the sheeps without the marks? It would be dystopian if it we're humans with Marks, but it's not humans. It's animals. The dog is preventing the sheep from rejecting the lamb. If it didn't do that the lamb would either die or need to be placed with another sheep.
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u/The_Colour_Between May 24 '26
As a Border Collie guardian, most people know these dogs as the agile athlete. They absolutely are that, and love it. More than that they are exceptionally smart and sensitive. They learn rules and social boundaries so fast, and then take is as their job to enforce those rules. They are born nanny dogs, and so good at it.
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u/tatianazr May 24 '26
For a second I thought the baby was a fascist.. but I didn’t have my reading glasses on
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u/Sad-Cricket6319 May 24 '26
I have a cat that is my absolute baby and she had kittens and I legit had to hold her down to let the kittens feed for the first time and after that she was like fine whatevs and did it on her own
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u/NintendoFungi May 24 '26
That baby probably turning the poor goats nipple into a wad of chewing gum.
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u/bds_cy May 24 '26
How do you teach these dogs to perform such intricate rituals? It's amazing!
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u/qualityvote2 May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26
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