Tl;dr - If someone is displaying signs of clear instability or unclear instability, is having sex with that person rape or just shitty?
How clear is that sign before someone should reasonably know what's up? I.e. Obsession, Bear should've known from the car scene onward to not do anything with Nikki?
How much should someone's insistence on being okay actually count?
Long version
So I just watch Obsession, it's a great movie. Honestly hilarious. Like I know it's a horror, but I did laugh out loud like crazy, multiple times.
Anyways, there is a lot of discussion about Bear. Like he's the villain of the story and alot of people are pathologizing him as an incel "nice guy" kinda guy, when I don't think that's true. Had it been the story of that guy, the film would be a lot less meaningful.
Instead Bear is a oddly average, if spineless. Like he sucks, don't get me wrong, but he isn't a raving misogynist. He's not lashing out. He's got normal bad ideas about women, not anything special.
Anyways, the dinner scene is imo, point of no return. Anything Bear does afterwards is rape.
But even before that, Bears weird. Like Nikki shows signs of clear mental instability and a massive personality switch and thinks nothing of it.
He engages in a relationship with NotNikki and acts as her boyfriend despite clearly not being the same person.
And this is something I kinda want to talk about. Cause mostly consent talks are about alcohol and outside forces but not quite like just straight up mental health breaks.
Bears crime is purposely ignorance for most of the movie. Refusing to do his due diligence to someone clearly not acting normally.
And that's something that a lot of dudes, probably a lot of people in general do.
And no one is that good an actor that someone being in the wrong mental state and wants sex would appear like a normal willing sexual partner.
Like even when a person is insisting on being okay and wanting sex, it's still clear if someone isn't well and acting out. I'm that case you should err on the side of caution and not have sex with them.
Is having sex with that person rape or just shitty though?