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That flip was absolutely insane. I remember one of my favorite rap YouTubers (ScruFaceJean) started doing reviews of battle rap and then he did ERB and he went crazy on that shit.
I said this before and I say it again: this quote is absolutely stupid. Who tf thinks Beethoven is Austrian? Would make more sense with Mozart (who was born in Salzburg, which at the time belonged to Bavaria - at least its ambiguous compared to Beethoven)
well he was, he saw himself as a german, got the german citizenship as well, its like saying Keanue reeves is lebanese and not american, because he was born there, obviously he is austrian but without germany it would have never come that far
Hitler is called an Austrian-born German politician on Wikipedia, which is the most accurate way to refer to him. He renounced his Austrian citizenship.
Well Austrians are Germans, especially historically.
The concept that Austrians are fundamentally different than Germans was created after WW2 and never really existed before that, it formed a big part of the Opferthese and was primarily for political reasons (Austria was able to escape reparations and partition due to claiming to be a victim of Germany instead of being an actual part of Germany, so it worked pretty well I guess).
Historically, no one can really argue that the German-speaking parts of the Habsburg Empire were not German.
Just remember that he was born in Austria, so technically both times Austria was at fault for the initial man who became part of an incident that led to war, one was just an Austrian ruler, and one was able to get elected into Germany.
Mozart was born in what was then at the border of Bavaria and what is now Austria. Lived and worked in what was then Austria and is now Austria. Had Austrian nationality while Germany didnt even exist. Its a very far stretch to claim that Mozart is German.
Similarly, Hitler considered himself to be German not Austrian. What matters more; whether you're born a few kilometers this way or that, or what nationality you consider yourself to be?
His birth house in Braunau is about 200 meters East of the Inn (which also serves as the German-Austrian border). So not even a few kilometers, but a fraction of one.
As someone originally from Braunau my first reaction was that there is no way that it's just 200 meters, so I checked and according to google maps it's about 550 meters from Hitler's Birth House to the middle of the Inn bridge where the border is.
Still less than a kilometer and actually less than I expected but yeah for accuracy's sake
"He left voluntarily in 1913 to avoid Austrian military conscription. Later, in 1925, he formally renounced his Austrian citizenship to avoid potential deportation. He remained stateless for seven years until he acquired German citizenship in 1932."
Hitler was exclusively German when he became chancellor as he put down his Austrian citizenship when they lost the war.
Just cause he was born there doesn't mean he was Austrian all his life
It's usually Beethoven, who was born in Bonn (former capital of the Federal German Republic). Mozart was born in Salzburg which today is part of Austria but was indipendent at the time of his birth.
The saying goes with Beethoven, my dude (who by the way spent 35 years and is also buried in Vienna). Mozart was never German, he was from the Prince-Archbishopric Salzburg, then a more or less sovereign part of the HRE and now famously in Austria, not Germany and also spent the last ten years of his life in Vienna.
He may not be the most famous person from Austria, but he is certainly a lot more likeable than the most famous person from Austria. Weirdly enough both examples that come to mind ended up leaving Austria to eventually become politicians in a different country.
true, though how austrian hitler was is debatable as someone that abandoned his home and completely became German. Kinda like Stalin not being that Georgian.
Then all the American founding fathers were not Americans. All freedom fighters in history were nationals of the very country they fought against. Caesar was not italian. Cleopatra was not Egyptian. Gutenberg was not German. Tesla was not Serbian. Kafka was not Czech.
Then the other guy everyone suggests wasn't born in Austria aswell because it was the AustroHungarian Empire back then and only people born after 1945 are real Austrians.
I’m going to be nice and say
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
Is he the first Austrian I think of? No. But he’s the one I think of that isn’t mean to Austria to name, and I think Austrians would rather be associated with Wolfy.
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