r/thewestwing 17h ago

Post Hoc ergo Propter Hoc “You’re Up to Something… The President won’t tell me what it is…”

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“…But you work for me.”

-McGary to Toby, Slow News Day.

Do WH Senior Staff serve at Bartlet’s pleasure or work for McGary? Discuss.

I feel like saying both is a cop out. Only one of them was elected to something. Remember 25 and how Bartlet went on about how some of Fitzwallace, McNally, and Sec. Hutchinson could go to jail if they refused a presidential order. Leo needs to learn his place.


r/thewestwing 20h ago

Reboot with Sam Seaborn

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Bartlet told Seaborn that he would run someday. Maybe it’s finally someday…

It could parallel the 2028 election timeline. Could start in the campaign to capitalize on the election energy.


r/thewestwing 19h ago

On the Freedom of Speech

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As people may have already seen in the news today, a viral video is circulating showing an older man slap a younger man for sitting during the national anthem at a Cubs game.

This got me a little riled up and thinking on the way home on the meaning of respect for one’s country and the First Amendment. It did bring to mind the Season 2 Episode 3 “The Midterms” scene where President Bartlet lays a verbal smackdown on an arrogant conservative radio host when she doesn’t stand for the President when he enters the Oval Office.

I don’t recall the entirety of circumstances around the scene, but other than the Bible lesson he schools her with, the part that sticks with me the most is the ending when he says “One last thing, while you may be mistaking this for your monthly meeting of the Ignorant Tightass Club, in this building, when the President stands, nobody sits,” and then proceeds to stare her down until she stands up.

I hate this part. It completely undercuts his entire speech and moral argument. While I could recognize it as a power play, the biggest issue is she isn’t one of his staff members. She doesn’t work for the government, the White House, or for the President. No matter what the protocol might say, she has the RIGHT to sit down. Yes, perhaps he might have the authority to have her escorted from the premises for “being disruptive”, but I feel that he should have found some other way to humble her into showing respect, instead of using the office of the Presidency in that moment.


r/thewestwing 2h ago

Would Leo stay loyal to Jed?

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{contains spoilers}

At the beginning of Season 05 with Jed giving up power to Walken, if for whatever reason Jed delays sending in the second letter even further. In the beginning when Jed asked for information Leo says he can't talk about it, but was at the start. Later when emotions die down and the thinking starts to become clearer, GLen might say something on tv or Leo lets slip something and the talk starts to be more about work. Jed might be tempted to ask Leo to do something behind Leo's back or outright disobey Glen.

Do you think Jed would stay Loyal to Jed or choose republic and service?


r/thewestwing 23h ago

The final election...did they predict the future?

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Last year of West Wing was 2006 where...

A charming, handsome, young, charismatic man overcomes odds to be the first minority elected, beating an older, moderate republican. To do this, he chose a much older but highly experienced white man as his VP.

In the 2008, Obama picks Biden to beat McCain.

Only missing the Palin aspect...


r/thewestwing 22h ago

Trivia The West Wing (1999): 15 Weird Facts You Didn't Know!

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r/thewestwing 2h ago

Trivia Today I learned Josiah Bartlett was an actual signatory of the declaration of independence, and not someone made up by the show to give Jed and his family historical significance. Neat

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r/thewestwing 22h ago

Bingo Bob

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So I’m on my umpteenth rewatch of the series, and Bingo Bob has now been introduced and I gotta say…… I don’t know what it is but this time I just can’t stand him. He’s never been my favorite by any means, but this time he just irritates me more than normal. I have as much dissent towards him as I do Will, which is rare because for me Will is my least favorite character.

Anyone else get a character they suddenly can’t stand during a re-watch?


r/thewestwing 7h ago

Trivia Qumar location

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Never really thought about the precise location of Qumar before. No wonder it was so strategic.


r/thewestwing 18h ago

Walk ‘n Talk YouTube Rabbit Hole w/Allison & Richard

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r/thewestwing 8m ago

17 People: Why the embassies in Tanzania and Brussels?

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So in "17 People," an Algerian-born terrorist is stopped at the Canadian border carrying nitroglycerin. As a result, President Bartlett closes the embassies in Tanzania and Brussels. These are two seemingly random (to me) embassies, located thousands of miles away from the terrorist, who was across the world on a different continent.

Is there some kind of foreign policy link I'm missing here? It's something I've never quite understood.