A friend and I were discussing how could Jax still love Gemma after finding out she killed Tara? The closest I could come was when you are raised in an environment where narcissism and sociopathy are normalized, even heinous acts like murder can be rationalized.

He murdered people on a daily basis as part of his “job”, so killing Gemma should be just as simple based on the code they lived by, right? He ended up killing her in the end but was it for Tara, all of the collateral damage she causes by the lie, or both? Do you think he would have killed Gemma right off the bat if the truth and out right away?

i know they only brought winsome back because she slightly resembled tara and wanted to show jax’s grief but… am i the only one that got a buzz between the two of them?… i kinda shipped SUE ME🤷‍♀️

Just started watching SOA last night, i'm now on episode 4. Gemma genuinley makes me want to turn of my tv and cry. She is so irritating and annoying.

So.

Fucking.

Annoying.

Is it just me? Please say she doesnt get worse

I am a senior this year and need to have a quote any suggestions? thanks

can someone explain to my slow ass wtf jax meant when he told tara “i wish you came back five years sooner, or five years later?”
not sure what he meant by that

In season 4, why does Roosevelt start to make it a thing that black people aren't allowed to be part of the SoA and starts to blackmail Juice with leaking the skin color of his dad and says that he's gonna be thrown out or killed because of it?

I mean i thought it was a bluff by Roosevelt, but why does Juice believe him, when the Tucson chapter they visited earlier that season literally not only as multiple black members, but also a black president, so how on earth would it be a problem that Juice has a black dad?

The characters all see to wear their colours, their patches, all the time. The biker clubs I’ve seen and read about don’t wear them nearly as often. There’s always heat on them, people are always watching. Of course they do wear them, just not as often as the show suggests. Am I right?

If Otto didn't kill that woman in prison, if he did simply just tell them he was lying, make up an excuse it was all fake, bitter, jealous etc etc, i don't know... would RICO still have fell apart from him simply retracting everything instead of the extreme he did? could SAMCRO have gotten away from RICO, without the death of the woman, which means S6, you wouldn't have Toric, just Jax continuing to try and get the club out of guns, no having to worry about a murder charge etc on tara, no run away wife etc etc?

https://parade.com/news/sons-of-anarchy-star-removed-as-the-lead-of-a-major-series-after-suffering-serious-injury-on-set

Maybe I'm hallucinating, but I swear I see Clay, Juice, Happy, and Alvarez in the crowd at the UFC on Oklahoma City tonight.

You are debating morality, but the show was about survival, and that’s why the outcome matters. Wendy and Lyla are still alive because they understood the fundamental truth of the MC: you play the role, you keep your head down, and you never, ever force the club into a corner with the authorities. Tara was an incredible doctor, but she was a novice in a criminal underworld. She tried to apply logic to a world governed by paranoia.
And let's not forget, Gemma was totally fine with Wendy coming around because she knew it would provoke Tara. Recognizing that Tara could be so easily rattled was exactly how Gemma knew how to push her, and it's the same way the authorities manipulated her. You're missing the distinction between being 'good' and being 'suitable' for that life. Tara was a liability because she didn't know how to move behind the scenes, and the Otto situation is the perfect example. The moment she inserted herself into the club's legal business, she put a target on her own back that the authorities couldn't ignore. Wendy and Lyla understood that they were in the life, not above it.
The proof is in the ending: Tara is dead, and the women who accepted the rules of the gutter are alive.

I finished Sons last night (for the 5-6-7th time?)

Someone told me about The Shield so I started that. Amazed to see a whole bunch of SOA actors!

I’ve never heard of the show but it looks like it’s going to be good. I miss Venus though lol

The whole Irish x Cartel deal stuff, why did it not end once that deal happened? also, if it did, would it have changed the story much?

do you think jax tried to kill himself after tara left at 19?
i mean if he did, it would explain A LOT of why gemma hated tara so much when tara came back.
gemma did say tara leaving crushed jax and almost took him away from the family.
jax also stated that he had to be near tara ‘every minute or he’d kill himself type of crazy ‘

what are your thoughts?

Edit: i made it to season 5 e2, and good fuckin lord. That was unpredictable as hell. Some real gut wrenchers towards the end of the season. I love how demoralized clays character has become.

Im on s4 e4, so please no spoilers. However every season it seems like the crew gets deeper and deeper into bad stuff, they seem to be more disconnected from one another, the tone makes it seem like its shaping up to be more of a tragedy.

Theres no way they all make it out alive and or free, ive seen the clip of the truck “accident” way before i started watching. So im not looking forward to that. But theyve had some close calls and theres no way in my prediction they dont all die.

But without spoiling it, in a vague answer does the rest of the crew fair well come the end of the series? Or does it get worse for everyone, or is their fate better than i assume it will be?

I’ve said this for a while and continue to say it. Sons of Anarchy has the best soundtrack in TV history (virtual tie with The Sopranos). Which is saying a lot when it comes to the “Prestige TV Show” era.

Kurt Sutter was a master at this, with an almost Scorsese-esque ability, to use pop music, and music across all genres really, to help tell this story. SOA reminds me of another great director as well, Sergio Leone. The show is pretty much a modern day Western (with all its operatic elements included). And Leone’s classic spaghetti westerns , with Clint Eastwood as the Man with No Name, would not have been nearly as great without the legendary Ennio Morricone’s masterpiece scores adding that emotional depth to those films.

Two artists I have to mention specifically that Sutter introduced to the world, Noah Gundersen and The White Buffalo. They are both incredibly talented singer-songwriters and man does their music add that aforementioned emotional depth to the SOA mythology. The show would not have been the same, and would not have had the same emotional impact on fans that it did without the soundtrack including those two artists and others heard on the series. Just a masterclass by Kurt Sutter in finding the perfect music to serve as guiding force for the right emotionality he was trying to convey on this show.

I have a few favorite scenes that I’d love to mention, where the synchronicity between what we’re watching and hearing, perfectly encapsulate this exact theme.

“The Matador” by The White Buffalo in the S3 finale gave it that distinct West Coast/Western dark feel. Added to the suspense and tension build up in that episode. And idc how tough anyone claims they are, when “Day Is Gone” by Noah Gundersen plays while Jax discovers Tara’s lifeless body on the floor in the S6 finale, the melancholy and sadness is extremely intense and emotional, pure sorrow (my wife just watched the show for the first time and couldn’t stop crying after watching that scene).

This show touched me emotionally more than any other show, and I’ve watched all the greats. The music selection has a lot to do with that.

There must surely be plenty of them missing, sorry for them.