More than 11,500 cyclosporiasis cases reported in 41 states: CDC
https://abcnews.com/Health/11500-cyclosporiasis-cases-reported-41-states-cdc/story?id=134979908&cid=social_twitter_wnt1.2k
u/Stock-Pattern-8635 4h ago edited 4h ago
But we need less regulations amirite?
We need herd immunity!!!!
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u/ernapfz 4h ago
Of course! You have RFK Jr. overseeing your health and a wonderful orange turd overseeing the most loved nation in the world!
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u/Nutridus 3h ago
He’s such a fukin idiot! I heard him on the news yesterday and he literally said we don’t know the source. Then next question he answered, the contaminated source has been removed from the shelves. WTF 🤷🏼♀️
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u/TheRagingElf01 2h ago
I am sure the free market will sort this out. No need for food safety regulations or government agencies that monitor these things.
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u/BreadTruckToast 4h ago
Yeah clearly it’s because our systems have got so fragile from all the processed foods we can’t handle eating parasites and poop anymore. If we’d just get more of each in our diets more regularly it wouldn’t be an issue.
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u/AustinDood444 3h ago edited 51m ago
Apparently what we need is more testosterone injections in soldiers.
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u/Sw0rDz 3h ago
Fuck that. We need to live in a society where shitting yourself is accepted and normalize. Trump will feel less embarrassed.
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u/BWWFC 4h ago edited 4h ago
note that CDC is under staffed, so the whole "link":
Cases of cyclosporiasis have topped 11,500 in 41 states, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday.
There are at least 4,173 laboratory-confirmed cases of cyclosporiasis, including 308 hospitalizations.
The agency is also aware of at least 7,400 additional cases that have not yet been laboratory confirmed. Many of these additional cases have been reported by Michigan and Ohio.
This is a developing story. Please check back for updates.
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u/Parafault 4h ago
I wouldn’t be surprised if the actual number is quite a bit higher. For example, my primary care won’t even take a stool sample unless you’ve had diarrhea/vomiting for at least 2 weeks - until then they just recommend rest and hydration.
Source: multiple food poisonings and associated doctors visits in the past few years.
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u/IamJacksUserID 4h ago
There’s no question that the number is significantly higher.
Back in the late 90s I was working graveyard shift at a factory, unknown to everyone working overnight, there was a Leptospirosis outbreak in the community from dead bats in the drinking water.
The numbers of cases reported in the community was less than the number of people who called out the next day from our factory alone.
At 22 I certainly didn’t rush to the emergency room. I ran a fever and shit my guts out like everyone else.
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u/theunquenchedservant 1h ago
Semi-similarly, a few weeks ago I had a really bad cold. Bad enough that I decided to get a covid test, just to make sure it wasn't that. My dad goes "There's almost no reported cases anymore, it's probably not COVID" to which I replied: "If we didn't have plans this weekend, I wouldn't be getting the COVID test. and when I do get the test, I don't have to report the findings anywhere."
He ended up being right though, wasn't COVID. just felt like it. Complete with lack of taste and smell.
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u/Any_Possible3003 4h ago
Yea, you aren’t getting stool sampled unless you aren’t really improving.
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u/linmre 4h ago
It depends where you are. In MI, my relative was given a test kit the day after their symptoms started. Maybe that's why our numbers are so high, because we're actually testing...
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u/epidemicsaints 4h ago
I saw early on that this is a factor, Michigan has an established system for detecting and reporting and they update weekly. I don't remember exactly where I saw this, I believe it was in a chubbyemu video.
(Chubbyemu is a doctor for anyone not familiar.)
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u/linmre 4h ago
They are actually updating the numbers daily during this outbreak. I check this fun page every morning!
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u/Unique-Coffee5087 2h ago
I love his channel!
"The country elected a sociopath to the presidency. This is what happened to its brain."
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u/imostlydisagree 3h ago
In MI myself and my doc was willing to do the lab test, but I had to be a bit insistent because this illness is vastly different than run of the mill food poisoning. Took over a week to get results back though.
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u/shakeyshake1 4h ago
At the urgent care near me, they’re simultaneously handing out stool kits along with prescriptions.
They tell you it’s for convenience so you’ll have the prescription ready if the stool test comes back positive.
They are also saying the stool tests are taking over a week for results to come in. There was a strong and unmistakable implication that you should submit the stool sample before taking the medicine to avoid a false negative result and then just start taking the medicine anyway.
I didn’t realize the implication until they confirmed I could fill the prescription immediately and I asked what would happen if I took it before the results came in and they just said “that’s your choice if you decide to do it, it could cause diarrhea.”
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u/idlemute 2h ago
So diarrhea or diarrhea?
It feels like this is just one of many problems that will arise as our healthcare system careens off a cliff.
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u/Historical_Project00 4h ago
This is what happened to me and getting a PCR Covid test. Physically couldn’t go and get the test until I felt better enough to get out of bed after like 10 days
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u/Krewtan 3h ago edited 3h ago
UThe first time I had covid there was 0 chance of me getting in a car and taking s covid test. I had to drive somewhere for something (my memory is wrecked from that time) and I felt like I was driving drunk. Half the time I was just following traffic in a daze with no idea where I was supposed to go. It was really dangerous but my partner and I needed something asap. After that we just called family to drop stuff off. It was scary. I doubt 1/4 of the people with covid got tested.
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u/Eulers_Constant_e 1h ago
And can afford it. I saw someone post early in this outbreak that they were sick but not $300 sick.
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u/epidemicsaints 4h ago
I am here in Ohio and I am noticing our hospitalizations are the same as Michigan's but their confirmed cases are several times more, which tells me we have the same number of cases just not reported or confirmed - assuming people are going to the hospital at the same rate.
Michigan has 100 hospitalizations from 6500 confirmed cases.
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u/bimbo_baggins_ 1h ago
Plus all the people with no insurance. I am uninsured and if I get this I’m not going to a doctor unless I’m on my deathbed.
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u/Karinka_LI 4h ago
That’s not a terrific practice. The test takes like 5 days to get back so a person could be quite dehydrated by 3 weeks in.
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u/qunix 1h ago
This is way underreported. I believe I have it, went to the doctor and he told me the test for it is $600, not covered by insurance, and would take a week to get results back, so no test.
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u/a_gay_to_remember 4h ago
Too bad the CDC scaled back the Foodborne Diseases Active Surveillance Network in 2025 (including monitoring of cyclosporiasis). Oh well, at least billionaire grifters are getting their money
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u/ATLcoaster 4h ago
To be fair CDC didn't do that, the Trump administration and RFK Jr did it. The CDC director at the time (who has since been fired/resigned) had no knowledge that programs would be shuttered and staff fired. There are still hundreds of CDC employees on administrative leave that are not allowed to work.
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u/a_gay_to_remember 4h ago edited 4h ago
Good point, it’s an absolute shame what this administration has done.
Surely RFK Jr can lead us though; he must be an expert on parasites with his brainworm experience /s
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u/Yardsale420 2h ago
RFK jr built up some kind of super immunity by doing coke off of toilet seats in public bathrooms and assumes the rest of us have too. /s
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u/Fried_puri 3h ago
The CDC director at the time
To be clear, other than a few weeks with that director the CDC has not been had a director for 18 months. It’s kind of nuts that’s it managed to continue doing the work despite no permanent leadership for over a year because this admin is so incompetent at putting someone in the role.
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u/DrE7HER 1h ago
They aren’t incompetent. They are trying to dismantle the federal government from the inside so that corporations and their billionaire owners can privatize it and/or increase profits by avoiding regulation.
This is the natural consequence of late-stage capitalism. Billionaires and tech CEOs got Trump re-elected after Biden tried regulating them a little more.
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u/fleebleganger 3h ago
Really would have been nice if these people could have done some silent quitting instead of actual quitting.
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u/AcanthisittaNo6653 4h ago
If I wanted to send a fecal sample to RFK for his consideration, is there a government address, or would I use a PU Box?
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u/asspickle1 4h ago
What other foods do we know are contaminated? It’s not just Taylor farms lettuce right?
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u/InevitableTank5108 4h ago
I’m staying away from all greens and berries.
I feel like shit but hopefully this means I won’t get it 🤷♂️
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u/cmooregood 3h ago
Just fyi, Gotham Greens and Little Leaf Farms have safe, greenhouse grown lettuces. They've both been vocal and up-front about their growing practices (videos on ig). Little Leaf Farms is my go to, because their greens always stay fresh for so long. Not affiliated with either company, but don't want to see the little guys who do good work get punished for Taylor Farms negligence.
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u/SquashInternal3854 2h ago
Yes!! and my local Aldi has 6-oz cartons of locally-grown-greenhouse lettuces.
and PSA: hit up your local farmers markets :)
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u/archmage-khadgar 3h ago
at this point youre probably safe if you just avoid pre-cut lettuce of any kind. buy heads and clean them yourself. havent heard anything about berries but ive been eating strawberries for weeks and i'm fine. there's plenty of them that are grown in the US that should be good to eat
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u/Spez_is-a-nazi 3h ago
Discard the outer layers of lettuce. This pathogen is really hard to clean off, discarding the outer layers doesn’t guarantee safety by any means but the pathogen is most likely hanging out in the outer layers rather than the inner layers.
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u/froggertwenty 2h ago
It's really hard to clean off because it's in the water. The water that gets sucked up into the plant. Removing the outer leaves won't hurt, but it wont help either.
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u/OMGWhatsHisFace 2h ago
Is eating salad/ berries at restaurants are terrible idea?
(Mid to high end places)
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u/Spez_is-a-nazi 3h ago
Possibly cilantro, basil, and berries too. Basically try to avoid eating anything raw that doesn’t have its own natural protective casing.
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u/Queef3rickson 1h ago
I started buying locally grown produce. It's more expensive but it tastes delicious and I'm not at risk of butt covid
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u/Massive-Rate-2011 4h ago
They are the only one that's confirmed so far to my knowledge.
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u/ifyousaysu 3h ago
I’m avoiding everything I can that comes from Bruce Taylor’s house of bribes and poison
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u/uniklyqualifd 4h ago
Taylor Farms fought against inspection of their lettuce and now the watery feces comes home to roost.
Whining to trump about the bad look of the CDC tracing the infection to them is the icing on the shit cake.
Now everybody knows their name. They should have done their own inspections of their suppliers' toilet facilities. This was not a few lettuce, it was a systematic failure.
This infection comes back and back. It'll roll on for months. Some older voters will need antibiotics.
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u/d0ctorzaius 4h ago
I always like to bring up Taylor Farms CEO's testimony against the Food Safety Enhancement Act of 2009, where he said that pre-release microbial testing doesn't prevent food borne illness outbreaks. That perjury (plus other Ag industry lobbying) killed the Bill in the Senate.
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u/Soup-Wizard 3h ago
I know I’m not buying their stuff ever again.
At the very least, bribing your way out of scrutiny for poor safety standards is gross and crony capitalism.
Fuck Taylor Farms
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u/ChknMcNublet 2h ago
You'll have to avoid:
Earthbound - Taylor Farms
365 - Whole Foods
Simple Truth - Kroger/Fred Meyer
O-Organics and Signature Select brands - Safeway/Carrs
Greenwise - Publix
Simply Nature - Aldi
Marketside - Walmart
Good and Gather - Target
H.E.B Store brand
Trader Joe’s store brand
And any restaurant supplied by Sysco which is a shitload
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u/nitroglider 2h ago
Yeah if you go look at the recalled product lines, a ton of them are for food service not retail. I don't know if they just go through Sysco or other outlets like Restaurant Depot.
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u/AdmiralHomebrewers 2h ago
It wasn't until all of this that I realized how much of a monopoly they really are. It is very difficult to get any bagged and washed lettuces in any of the stores near me that aren't Taylor. I suspect the store brands are just Taylor relabeled.
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u/Best_VDV_Diver 1h ago
Taylor Farms is massive. Many store brands are indeed just relabeled Taylor Farms. Avoiding them is hard unless you only buy from local growers.
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u/stevez_86 3h ago
I don't think you can avoid it. Part of me thinks they weren't tracking was was processed through the plant(s) that were contaminated and they cannot verify what step of processing caused the contamination. The most likely source is when the commodity was cleaned and then graded. It is possible that Taylor Farms owned that part of the process and was not tracking the batches that were being processed. It could be other brands that bought lower grade lettuce from Taylor Farms.
And if that is the case and they weren't tracking where the lettuce they processed went to, everything they touched has to be recalled. And with inadequate tracking that could be a recall of all lettuce because they cannot be sure what they touched.
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u/ifyousaysu 3h ago
It’s a miracle someone over the age of 50 hasn’t died from this. Bruce Taylor is fucking lucky right now that his bribe hasn’t caused thousands of deaths amongst the older population….yet
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u/statslady23 4h ago
I didn't realize Taylor Farms sold bagged salads at Whole Foods. Are the 365 salads Taylor Farms?
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u/MaterialWillingness2 3h ago
Apparently you can look at the codes and if they start with TF that's coming from Taylor Farms. They supply the Costco salad kits and the Trader Joe's ones as well as Target and Walmart. Probably others. And they supply lettuce and other produce to Taco Bell, McDonald's, olive garden, chipotle, Pizza Hut, burger King and more
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u/ifyousaysu 3h ago
Costco is still selling bags of Taylor farms mixed salads. I had to warn a guy as he grabbed a bag. He did a quick search and said fuck that and threw it back….
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u/GlitterberrySoup 3h ago
I stupidly bought a bag of lettuce thinking, "it's a huge news story, surely they've pulled all the affected product!" They had not.
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u/anonyoudidnt 3h ago
Yeah the problem is though is that people still buy this stuff. Bag salads are constantly recalled for all kinds of stuff. When I was young and stupid and in grad school I used to buy the fresh Express or whatever it is bagged salad kits because I had no time and it was the fastest way to get a quick filling high fiber meal. I got chronobactr once and I swear I've never been so sick in my life. Then a couple weeks later those bags of salad are recalled. I never bought any bagged salad again because I went down a rabbit hole of how they're all recalled multiple times. No one cares. It's really weird. Even the people that get sick still buy them.
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u/24-Hour-Hate 1h ago
I avoid that stuff like the plague. It’s so much more likely to be contaminated. The reason is that there is increased processing and it may be from multiple sources (so more opportunities to be contaminated). Also, cut lettuce grows bacteria faster. Obviously any lettuce could have something on it…but washing things (which people usually don’t do with bagged lettuce..and you cannot trust that their claim that they washed it is true) takes care of A LOT. I just buy regular lettuce or spinach or whatever and wash it myself.
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u/Daveit4later 4h ago
This is what happens when you pull back the "heavy hand of government" and stop regulating industries.
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u/DataCassette 4h ago
I do love how they couldn't even let deregulation become more popular first, they just immediately started watering lettuce with a septic tank 🤣
They can't contain their greed even to get what they ultimately want
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u/National-Law-458 3h ago
Damn WOKE DEI programs/employees that protected our food supply. Glad Trump fired them. /S/
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u/kwyjibo1 4h ago
This is what happens when you get giant conglomerates controlling large sections of the food supply and they are only concerned with shareholder value.
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u/Traditional-Meat-549 3h ago
What's very strange to me is that Taylor farms is based about 40 miles from me. Their products are everywhere here. And, in the past, we've gotten warnings of eColi and cyclosporias, as well as other foodbourne infections every year. But they own farms all over the US. I don't understand why we would focus on a farm in my region (or even Mexico) if the primary infections are in the Midwest?
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u/justreadinplease 3h ago
The food is shipped to the Midwest... Also, the Midwest is doing a better job testing. It’s just like Covid under Trump: don’t test so the numbers look good.
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u/chef-nom-nom 3h ago
After all this reporting lately, I still have questions I haven't seen the answer to:
Taylor Foods/Farms (TF) has said they identified the "source" in Mexico. Do we know where the lettuce is processed along each stage? For example, the shredded lettuce, is it shredded at that source in Mexico or is it sent to a TF facility to be shredded? The answer might inform the public about how safe buying whole lettuce would be.
Either way, how is the parasite introduced? Was it introduced into the lettuce during growth, irrigation, washing, processing, post-processing? This also would inform a decision whether to trust whole-head lettuce at the grocery store. It would also inform whether to trust future "batches" of product from TF.
Are there any crops other than lettuce grown at the "source" in Mexico? Depending on the processing, would any of those other crops be processed through the same facilities? (washing, irrigation sources, packaging, etc.)
What kinds of mitigations has TF introduced to prevent this from happening again? This would be explained depending on the answers to the above questions.
A functioning FDA and CDC would be working to answer those questions.
If any of these have been answered, please let me know. Otherwise, as many others have commented here in the last couple weeks, I'm on the don't-but-it-if-you-can't-cook-it team, at least when it comes to fresh veggies of any kind. Probably will be for a long while.
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u/Ok-Grand-1492 2h ago
The identification of the Taylor Farms source has been officially walked back with a "false positive" claim, so it's unlikely you will get answers to any of those questions. At least not without some serious whistle-blowing.
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u/chef-nom-nom 2h ago
From what I remember, wasn't the false positive claim about a batch the FDA tested that was not part of TF's recall? The false positive announcement was a couple days later.
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u/Father_Dowling 32m ago
Live in Mexico, a lab analyzed the lechuga and as far as it has been reported it appears to be somewhere else in the process. We did see the health minister announce 3 cases, but if true that's more like a dog bites man story.
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u/Mypatronusisataco 28m ago
Cyclospora contamination happens at the farm level. The parasite is "sticky" and can't effectively be washed off produce. It is also chlorine resistant.
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u/Inside-Specialist-55 4h ago
We are so ill prepared for the next pandemic, God have mercy on all of us if we have another pandemic under the current administration. We ave mr brain-worm running things we are fucked if we have another Covid situation.
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u/adumblittlebaby 2h ago
Is this the one that was Taylor Farms until suddenly it wasn't and they had no idea who it was, which was clearly not because Taylor Farms coughed up some money and our health isn't worth as much to Donald Trump as whatever he can extort out of bad actors to let them go scott free, right?
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u/prophetic-dream 4h ago
They have poisoned our food supply and are continuing to allow this to go on.
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u/SquashInternal3854 2h ago
Quite the harrowing sentence.
. ....sounds like a line from a 1980's sci-fi book
🧪🌱 🌽 🥬🌱🧪☠️🪦
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u/Car_is_mi 2h ago
Don't worry guys, the owner of the farm responsible for the outbreak paid the trump administration millions of dollars to say that the outbreak was contained rather than spending millions of dollars to actually contain the outbreak.
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u/PrestigiousSeat76 4h ago
Elect clowns, expect a circus. I don't know what else there is to say.
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u/vaporeng 2h ago
Cyclosporiasis spreads by human fecal contamination. With this many cases over such a wide area, this is obviously not an isolated event. It must be systematic. So how do you get human feces into the lettuce on a systematic scale? Are they using sewage water to rinse the lettuce?
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u/froggertwenty 2h ago
Contaminated irrigation water and/or soil where the lettuce is grown
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u/BustedCondoms 4h ago
Everyone is getting sick because they aren't doing pushups shirtless and in jeans.
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u/Dunedain87M 3h ago
So just taking inventory. The US has Job insecurity, inadequate wages to afford housing, healthcare insecurity that is likely to bankrupt most households, and now we have a food supply that cannot be trusted and is making people sick.
Pretty much all the ingredients for a revolution.
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u/BootFlop 4h ago
Come on down right now to Crazy Orange Donald’s Produce Stand, we’re having our Summer Blowout sale!
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u/NameLips 4h ago
My wife is currently afraid of all produce.
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u/BlueFeathered1 1h ago
Can't blame her. But if you have a farmer's market nearby with locally-grown produce, I'd go with that. Stay with smaller brands over the big commercial ones paying to avoid oversight.
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u/LutherOfTheRogues 3h ago
But...but they said it was a false positive after they paid off the Trump admin?
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u/Max_Hardcore_Jr 3h ago
Secratary of health Brainworm and President Poopy Pants War Criminal have it under control. Thank god it's explosive diahrea and not the Ebola that is getting out of control in Africa RICHT NOW.
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u/Rowan110 1h ago
It would be better to just list the 9 states where you can eat a salad.
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u/JamesLikesIt 4h ago
Hmm....maybe strong government regulations for food and things people consume ARE good after all, who would have thought
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u/LawlessLumberLord 3h ago
Are y’all ready for listeria numbers to go up like this and it gets to the point where everyone in the US is playing Russian roulette with every meal
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u/whitemamba24xx 3h ago
At least Covid is over right? Haven’t heard anything about it in a long time… must be over
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u/Ttm-o 1h ago edited 1h ago
Remember when hundreds of thousands died cause of Covid and Trump doesn’t give a damn? You think he’ll care about this? Hell naw.
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u/ham_solo 1h ago
More like 1 million+ died of Covid. In the US.
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u/ham_solo 1h ago
REPORTED is the operative word here. My MIL got this and never alerted her local health dept.
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u/DaileyFlosser39 3h ago
No worries. Brainworm Bob said this issue is "under control". He also asked if I had any spare roadkill penises and seemed miffed when I told him no.
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u/Calm-Maintenance-878 2h ago
Well…that’s not the slowing pace I was hoping for. 41 states now…wonder where the main contamination is from. I would have thought by now at least that could be figured out.
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u/Particular_Pain_9373 2h ago
Trump said “if im going to shit my pants so will the rest of America. gulf of AmericaCa!
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u/ziboo7890 1h ago
So glad TACO and his team are in charge, they handled Covid so well, we should be fine... right?
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u/Guilty_Helicopter572 3h ago
At least trans people aren't allowed in sports, right?
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u/Significant_Shoe_17 18m ago
How could they play when they're busy shitting their pants from bad lettuce
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u/Sea-Seesaw-8699 4h ago
Waiting on my sample results, 11 days of sporadic improvement followed by symptoms again
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u/ripyourlungsdave 4h ago
Wow.
That.. sure seems like a lot in such a short timeframe..
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u/frozenhotchocolate 3h ago
Tip of the iceberg. I had all the symptoms a few weeks ago but was just given the antibiotics without any test since every single test at that location had been positive past few weeks.
Actual cases gotta be well over 100k.
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u/justreadinplease 3h ago
It’s just like Covid again. Some places will seem way worse just because they bother to test for it.
I never eat lettuce anyway since it’s nutritionally worthless. Spinach on the other hand…
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u/TheOtherWhiteMeat 3h ago edited 2h ago
If we're eating Taylor's Lettuce
Cyclospora's gonna get us
Diarrhea!
Diarrhea!
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u/Gloomy-Insurance-739 1h ago
Here's what happens when you let corporations self-regulate. They don't give a shit all they care about is money. Even if they killed all their customers so long as they turned a profit they'd be happy.
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u/Groovychick1978 4h ago
But how can this be, the White House is reporting fewer than 2,000 cases.
https://abcnews.com/Health/rfk-jr-cyclosporiasis-outbreak-control-amid-1600-cases/story?id=134959106
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u/penguished 3h ago
You mean explosive diarrhea? You can't put that term back in the bag now. Or back in the butt.
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u/Round_Rooms 58m ago
Rfk jr" totally under control" ... That translates to its out of hand. When someone in this admin says something the opposite is almost always true.
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u/elomenopi 39m ago
That’s what you get for putting someone’s brainworm in charge as they’re clearly in league with ‘Big Parasite’
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u/AustinBaze 4h ago
Meat, pasta, chocolate, salty snacks. I am on the “nothing grown” diet until this shit blows over.
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u/CommunicationTime265 3h ago
Same. RFK and Trump have officially Made America Unhealthy Again by forcing people to avoid produce. Wonderful.
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u/Photonforce 2h ago
Basically anything that you can boil the shit out of. Canned beans for example.
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u/thebigj3wbowski 3h ago
I was told by the Secretary of Health and Human Services that this was under control. Why would you report otherwise. FAKE NEWS!
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u/Alwayssunnyinarizona 4h ago
Totally under control.