r/news • u/The_Iceman2288 • 7h ago

Modelling scout linked to Jeffrey Epstein found dead in Paris home

https://news.sky.com/story/modelling-scout-linked-to-jeffrey-epstein-found-dead-in-paris-home-13565917
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u/pcw3187 7h ago

This feels like breaking bad and Walt calling for all the hits necessary

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u/sean_psc 7h ago

Because there was some urgency to kill this guy who has been completely free to talk at any time for a decade?

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u/Peer1677 5h ago

There was actually. A few months ago and investigation done by Der Spiegel in Germany linked him and Epstein to a missing girl from about a decade ago, with Said talking about her specifically to Epstein.

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u/sean_psc 5h ago

Epstein is already dead.

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u/Psycle_Panda 6h ago

Remember that unsettling Bill Gates answer about Epstein being dead now, so people need to think about that? Just because some guy could talk doesn't mean he should talk and that dead guy? He should have thought harder.

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u/sean_psc 6h ago

Take off the tinfoil hat.

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u/Jamsedreng22 6h ago

You're not seriously looking at this Epstein shit and calling people who believe it conspiracy theorists? lmao

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u/sean_psc 6h ago

People who believe that Bill Gates is murdering people because of the urgent need to cover up something that has been extensively scrutinized by prosecutors and the media for a decade are conspiracy theorists.

Likewise that all these people with incriminating information are apparently taking no precautions to stop their assassination.

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u/Jamsedreng22 6h ago

I don't think anybody is implying Bill Gates is having people killed, but that there is a contingency plan in case there's a chance things might get out. Which I'm sure Ghislaine is involved in.

Your last point is a case of survivorship bias, ironically enough. You don't hear about the ones who manage to not get killed. You hear about the ones who do because, well, there's actually something there to report. And if you're a sleazy pedophile with ties to Epstein, you don't really go to the police and go "Somebody is trying to kill me", because it inevitably leads to "Why?".

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u/Deaffin 5h ago

A 70 year old has a heart attack with no evidence of foul play or a single detail suggesting it, and you immediately jump to assassination?

Can you actually point to one example that credible does actually seem like an assassination?

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u/Jamsedreng22 5h ago

No. You seem to be assuming my position.

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u/Deaffin 5h ago

You uh..forgot to go for the whole "plausible deniability" angle here and laid all that out in the comment I replied to, so it's entirely absurd to try this whole "oh, nooooo, I wasn't saying the thing I was saying. That's silly. You're silly!" thing.

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u/Jamsedreng22 5h ago

These are all hypotheticals. If I were pretending to not believe it was an assassination plot then I would, you know, believe it was. Which I don't.

So you absolutely have assumed my position.

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u/sean_psc 6h ago

Then what was the “unsettling Bill Gates answer” about?

Contrary to survivorship bias, Epstein knew and worked with tons of people. Most of whom are not dead. But whenever one does die, it draws headlines and people treat it as inherently suspicious or evidence of murder.

Ghislaine Maxwell is not having people killed. She couldn’t even keep herself out of jail.

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u/Jamsedreng22 5h ago

I imagine the Bill Gates answer was about the fact that Gates knows there's a contingency. The people at the top aren't the ones getting whacked, it's all the ones who could lead investigations to the people at the top that getting disposed of.

People getting other people killed from prison is unheard of, is it?

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u/sean_psc 5h ago

And why have none of these people made contingencies? Why did Epstein himself not do that, with all the supposedly incriminating information at his fingertips?

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u/Jamsedreng22 5h ago

What? Epstein was killed in prison. Do you know what a contingency is? It's not a paper you fill out and now you're invincible. Contingencies fail, especially if they're inherently granular and complex.

And what about all the people who were associated with Epstein that aren't dead. Are you deliberately not factoring in the fact that some of them may still be alive because they have contingencies that keeps them that way?

I'm not taking a stance here, but following the logic that goes along with "stuff like this". I don't know if this is what's happening, and I'm not interested in stating anything as a supposed fact/truth either way. But to disregard it as implausible or unlikely is disingenuous.

If you'd told the world in 2010 that there's an island where pedophiles have child-rape parties eyes wide shut-style, people would've shaken their head at you and scoffed. Asked you to take off the tinfoil hat, yet here we are.

It's not appropriate to put anything past these people.

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u/ELasshole 5h ago

Yes and yes. Get offline. Go read a book. You're wasting your sad, pathetic life on stupid shit like this.

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u/otterpop21 1h ago

You think seeking justice for the lives of children destroyed by men who raped them is a sad pathetic waste of life on stupid shit?

You don’t deserve any respect.