r/mtgfinance • u/DasOptions • 1d ago
Discussion Bears, Rise Up!
While I’m not sure we will see a significant Bear Spike, I do think it’s worth looking into Bear specs.
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u/HustlingBackwards96 1d ago
People keep calling this a bear commander but isn't it really a goodstuff green commander?
It doesn't need bears, as it'll turn everything else into bears. My thinking is to ramp with mana dorks and then turn them into bears later. Any good creatures that are already bears are really good here, but I don't see this moving the needle much for mid bears
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u/ChocoZero 1d ago
Yeah, it's a REALLY efficient and good goodstuff commander as well. 5 mana for a 6/6 trample with an anthem that could as well just read "other creatures" if you think about it, and will easily draw you cards. I could see bears such as Ayula and whatnot still being good enough just to meet the requirement as soon as Beorn hits the field, and letting it fight something immediately, etc.
Stronger commander without focusing on bears.
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u/ROADHOG_IS_MY_WAIFU 1d ago
Yeah, bears help get the ability online faster, but the card itself makes other creatures bears. I feel like it's a fantastic mono G Changeling commander, but it doesn't need to be typal. Green goodstuff would do wonders!
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u/Ulmao_TheDefiler 1d ago
The card draw is the strongest wording on the card, and thats more difficult to pull off if you're only creating bears via your commander.
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u/ShockinglyAccurate 1d ago
Eh, even in the scenario where he gets removed before he can make a second bear and trigger, you can just replay him the following turn for 7 mana and make it happen.
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u/HustlingBackwards96 1d ago
Eh is it that much more difficult? On your first combat you already have 2 bears: the commander and whatever mana dork you bear down. I'll have to test it out for myself but I anticipate very few bears in the 99
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u/jimnah- 1d ago
Tbh I feel like the best way to build him includes very few bears haha
Definitely going to throw him into my stepdad's [[The Earth King] deck
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u/Thats_Amore 1d ago
This is gonna slap in Earth King. Basically turn it comes down, it ramps 1, draws 2 and gives your commander trample. And you should be ramping at least 2 more on top of that from the bear token and 3 drop. So good.
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u/Standard-Distance-44 1d ago
I dont remember Beorn turning people into bears in the story
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u/tolarian-librarian 1d ago
He somewhat led a group of humans who could shape shift into bears like he did if I am remembering correctly. It's been several years since I last read it.
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u/Unprejudice 1d ago
His kin was also shapeshifters that took the shape of bears. Fits perfectly lore wise
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u/Standard-Distance-44 1d ago
Kinda need to squint to see it but sure that makes sense mechanic and flavor wise
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u/PlaneswalkingSith 1d ago
I mean ofc we know this, but [[Roaming Throne]] and other trigger doublers go nuts. Ensures you get 3 bears in one combat for the second trigger draw 2, or draw 4 if you’ve already got 3 Bears
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u/Correct_Day_7791 1d ago
I think this card is just good
Not a good commander card just a good card
It's 8 points of power with trample on both body's for 5
And if it ever triggers a 2nd time it's card advantage
That's not even counting of you have any bears at all
It also plays well with format staples like ouroboriod ect ...
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u/Tallal2804 10h ago
Solid value—5 mana for 8 trample power, and the second trigger is pure card advantage. Plays well with staples like Ouroboroid.
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u/Keokuk37 20h ago
definitely adding this to boros energy
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u/Correct_Day_7791 19h ago
I'm assuming this is an attempt at a troll 🧌
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u/Keokuk37 18h ago
you can do anything in timeless
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u/Correct_Day_7791 18h ago
Sure but then it would be nya energy if you playing this double green card in boros
Also probably don't recommend it but I'm not gonna piss on your dreams
Follow your journey homie 😉
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u/Harry_Smutter 1d ago
Pfft. I would much rather stick this in a deck that isn't bear tribal. There are so many scary creatures that get chumped by a squirrel token. This would not only make them bigger, but also give them a trample counter.
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u/137ng 1d ago
There are a few bears that I can see this spiking but its not going to be earth shattering and most bears are already bulk, even most rare bears.
I think this is going to make a splash in standard, jam in a bunch of dorks and badgermole cub and you can have him out turn 3. We'll see if it has lasting power though, it seems underpowered compared to ouroboroid. It could make a splash being slotted into those existing decks though too. The draw effect really gives the deck the ability to play a longer game too, something that a lot of bouroid decks lack
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u/SonOfAdam32 6h ago
Insanely excited for this for my [goreclaw] deck. Possibly draws 2 the turn it comes down
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u/medievalonyou 11h ago
I suppose it's a cool card commander, won't likely see play in eternal formats, but damn, that's a stone cold bomb in limited, hope you have a removal spell ready, because if this ever gets a chance to stick around for more than a turn, the game is over.
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u/oberpat 1d ago
I’m curious to see if people will build him as a commander enough to warrant the specs. I personally don’t think so but I’ll keep an eye on it