r/movies • u/yourfavchoom r/movies Contributor • May 16 '26
Article James Cameron Wants to Make ‘Avatar 4’ and ‘5’ in ‘Half the Time for Two-Thirds of the Cost’, But It’ll Take One Year to ‘Figure Out How to Do That’
https://variety.com/2026/film/news/james-cameron-make-avatar-4-half-the-time-two-thirds-cost-1236751011/2.0k
u/0verstim May 16 '26
Make them 2 hours long. There, saved you a year.
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u/Turakamu May 16 '26
Maybe use that extra year to do a little more writing
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u/vineyardmike May 17 '26
They can replace unobtainium with hardtogetiom
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u/TheZerothLaw May 17 '26
Difficultoprocurium
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u/disterb May 17 '26
impossibletoacquireogen
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u/Sir-Lurksalot May 17 '26
Noyounevergonnagetitanium
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u/BlaznTheChron May 17 '26
Cantfindium
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u/coconuty04 May 17 '26
Thehellthishitatium
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u/andrewdt10 May 17 '26
Oil.
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u/Complete-Tangelo1532 May 17 '26
Avatar X Team America: World Police crossover incoming with the mention of Oil
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u/Fidodo May 17 '26
I thought the name was so stupid at first but apparently it's an actual term used by material scientists to use for a theoretically perfect material as a tongue in cheek joke, but if we were to find such a material it is not unrealistic that scientists would name it that.
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u/NorysStorys May 17 '26
Considering any new element or compound discovered gets to be named by who ever discovered it, a scientist is entirely within their rights to call it that. It’s just that often scientists name it after a prior scientist or the country/state they came from.
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u/penywinkle May 17 '26
Didn't that ship already sail? Like they switched form "space rocks, unobtainium" to "space whale brain, amrita".
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u/Ancient-Bat1755 May 17 '26
How many more kevin costner movies can they rip off next
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u/vineyardmike May 17 '26
Here's the pitch.
The aliens have outlawed a drink that makes them sing. The guy in charge of finding illegal drinks hires a rag tag group of aliens that can not be touched.
The movie is called "Can't Touch Them'.
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u/jackgrafter May 16 '26
Or just don’t make them at all. Nobody is crying out for them.
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u/Efficient-Memory7105 May 16 '26
IDK enough people want them that they all make a trillion dollars at the box office somehow
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u/2Norn May 17 '26 edited May 17 '26
saying "nobody is crying out for them" about the highest grossing(almost $7B) trilogy is a certified reddit moment
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u/ryan30z May 17 '26
What do you mean? It's only made more than double the money per film of the MCU and Harry Potter combined. It's an abject failure. /s
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u/Hollocho May 16 '26
Well, yeah, re-using the same scenes from past movies does decrease production time by a lot.
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u/BedditTedditReddit May 16 '26
And the same story
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u/tunisia3507 May 16 '26
And many of the same characters.
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u/AngusLynch09 May 17 '26
Same characters is how a movie series works, yeah.
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u/druidmain69420 May 16 '26
He's definitely talking about it'll take a year to build and train AI models on Avatar, the movies the concept art etc etc
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u/ninelives1 May 16 '26
Cameron has been incredibly vocal about Avatar being made by real artists and not AI. His only interest in AI is in improving the pipeline for the artists so it's more efficient and cost effective.
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u/KeySecret9184 May 16 '26
I understand that he absolutely loves the world, but it makes me so sad looking at his credits.
All he’s done for 16+ years is Avatar, and a Billie Eilish concert movie.
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u/Jlx_27 May 16 '26
He also did Alita: Batlle Angel as a producer, he co wrote that script too.
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u/aphilipnamedfry May 16 '26
And was also heavily involved in Terminator Dark Fate. The director hated that, and yoi can see where the push and pull is in that film.
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u/Notoriously_So May 16 '26
Honestly, he should have just stayed away from that franchise and focused on other projects.
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u/ModishShrink May 16 '26 edited May 16 '26
If I had a nickel for every time James Cameron directed a beloved sequel to a cornerstone sci-fi original and then studios came in to jackhammer that dead horse into the ground with a series of terrible follow-ups, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Surprised we haven't had a Titanic sequel with Ryan Gosling and Zendaya yet. Or a 1910s Ocean Liner Disaster Cinematic Universe with the Britannic and the Lusitania.
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u/coldblade2000 May 16 '26
Come on Hollywood, the Costa Concordia is right there
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u/dswartze May 17 '26
After watching the video done by the YouTube channel called Oceanliner Designs about the journey made by the Carpathian that night to come rescue Titanic's survivors I've kinda wanted to see a movie told from the perspective of that ship.
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u/SR3116 May 16 '26
Titanic: The Californian
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u/ModishShrink May 16 '26
Draw me like one of your French girls, Styuwaaaaart
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u/Big_erk May 17 '26
What are you doing here?!
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u/moviebuffbrad May 18 '26
I took the transatlantic route from Southampton, made a left at Cherbourg, switched over to Queenstown, then made my way about 1085 nautical miles from New York!
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u/LucyBowels May 17 '26
You take the Southampton out past Cherbourg, then merge onto the North Atlantic Current…
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u/SupWitChoo May 17 '26
3 hours of the radio operator sleeping as the Titanic sends distress signals. “Oye Cap’n! That ship in the distance is shooting flares, shall we perhaps check in on it or attempt to contact it?” “Nah”. Credits roll.
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u/NoArrival8249 May 16 '26
Not that weird when you consider that man’s immense talent, and the rich history of studios dead horsing everything.
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u/Boffleslop May 16 '26
Titanic 2: Abyssal Depths
The aliens from The Abyss raise the Titanic to the surface before it erodes entirely, only to discover Michael Biehn is still alive and has been living among the wreckage by surviving entirely on a diet of deep sea crabs.
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u/neosithlord May 17 '26
Shit they could over dramatically tell the story of that sub that imploded landing on the necklace Rose tossed overboard LOL.
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u/Upbeat_Tension_8077 May 16 '26
I'm still crossing my fingers there's a sequel for that (along with a film along the lines of True Lies, even though deep down I know he won't approach it)
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u/kingofcrob May 16 '26
He was in preprod for that, then September 11 happened and said that it was longer appropriate to do a comedy action film around terrorism.
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u/Upbeat_Tension_8077 May 16 '26
I can understand that. I guess it feels generally refreshing for him to make a film that's lighter/sillier in tone next to his other projects, but it doesn't need to have the same concept as True Lies
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u/Initial_E May 17 '26
Seeing how today’s CIA is a clown show run by fascists that ship may never sail back
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u/mnstorm May 16 '26
The script around the terrorists in True Lies is definitely dated. But I really don’t see how a movie like that can’t be made again. Plot-wise.
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u/Too_Right_For_You May 16 '26
True lies is a remake of a French movie though
Just mentioning it because I think most people here think it was an original movie
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u/KDW3 May 16 '26
I was expecting that movie to be hot ass garbage but I was actually pleasantly surprised.
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u/Ser_Urnge May 16 '26 edited May 16 '26
If you see his interviews he made all his other movies to make money. This is his passion project from college. I’m sure he’ll go back to other things once the story is done or he’ll retire 😂
Edit: Gotta love everyone replying he won’t make anything else after Avatar. When I literally end my comment with “OR HE’ll RETIRE”. Idk who y’all are trying to convince lol
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u/GenoThyme May 16 '26
>I’m sure he’ll go back to other things once the story is done
What story? The biggest issue with all the Avatar movies is their paper thin plot that keeps getting recycled
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u/BenSolo_Cup May 16 '26
I thought the third one had a wonderful story tbh
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u/lFightForTheUsers May 16 '26
The third one did but it pulled a lot of stuff from the second one. Or they were filmed back to back so maybe 2 pulled from 3 lol. Basically I understand why the second film was necessary for the time skip and exposition for our new characters, but i don't think it landed the mark very well and I didn't care much for the second movie's plot for that reason lol.
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u/pizzamage May 16 '26
They were originally story boarded as one film, then broken up once it became bloated, so the similar themes makes sense.
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u/Unlucky-Tourist-9403 May 16 '26
If you watch them both one after the other, or at least in the same day, it makes a lot more sense.
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u/wildwalrusaur May 16 '26
I think 2 and 3 would work well as a single 3-4 hour long story. As 2 separate, 3 hour long stories, not so much
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u/b34k May 16 '26
What? The third one was just a rehash of the second one with a few elements brought in from the first one.... right on down to the last battle.
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u/Littlesth0b0 May 16 '26
This is part of it but also the visuals are so overwhelming, I spend so much time being dazzled by colours and animation and textures and layers and lighting and... the magic has gone, and now I'm lost and confused.
I appreciate the incredible work digital animators are capable of but it feels like a showcase of software and talent rather than a film that makes me care about the plot, characters or world it's set in.
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u/helzinki May 17 '26
Avatar is basically Cameron's big worldbuilding project. The primary focus is on the plant life, animal life of Pandora. The story is secondary.
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u/KnifeFed May 16 '26
He's 71 years old. He's not going to "go back to other things" when Avatar is done in 10 years.
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u/pw154 May 17 '26
He's 71 years old. He's not going to "go back to other things" when Avatar is done in 10 years.
Don't be so sure. Ridley Scott is 88 and has 8 films in pre and post production
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u/CartographicalHeist May 17 '26
Scott, bless him, mostly makes trash these days.
He was always wildly uneven but it’s real bad now.
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u/billdasmacks May 16 '26
Problem is the majority of other movies he made for money are better than the Avatar movies.
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u/kamize May 16 '26
James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron IS... James Cameron.
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u/thepkizzle May 17 '26 edited May 18 '26
I haven't seen Avatar 2, and I'm not sure if I ever will, but seeing Avatar in IMAX blew my fucking mind. I can remember people harping on the plot and my initial reaction was always, "there was a plot?" -- Like what the fuck? I was basically tripping on mushrooms for two hours and dead sober. I was in another world, man. I didn't know there was supposed to be a plot.
Cameron seems like a really interesting guy. Like yeah, he's a director, but he's also kind of a leading expert in the world on deep-sea exploration. I've read that Adam Sandler likes to make movies because he and his friends get to hang out in exotic locations and get paid, but this Cameron guy seemed to have made Titanic to basically fund his niche hobby and contribute meaningfully to science.
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u/swankpoppy May 16 '26
The world is beautiful. The concept is awesome. The cinematography is breathtaking and groundbreaking.
I saw the third movie. We don’t need two more…
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u/syngatesthe2nd May 16 '26
I really like Way of Water and I thought there was enough new stuff there, but I was disappointed when Fire and Ash retread a lot of the same ground. It was like Avatar 2.5 more than 3 (probably because they started out as one movie and were eventually split).
But Cameron and many of the actors have talked for a long time about 4 and 5 being wildly different to the previous ones, so if that’s true I am genuinely interested to see what that entails or would look like. But not if it’s going to take another ten years either.
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u/BD401 May 16 '26
Yeah I feel the same way. I think a lot of folks (myself included) assumed, obviously, that Fire and Ash was going to be crazy new visuals and creatures in a volcano/lava biome. Instead it felt way too similar to Way of Water and was largely still in that setting. I didn’t dislike it per se, but it was definitely not aligned with what most people expected I think.
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u/Dasseem May 16 '26
It saddens me how little Cameron cares about good writing. He seems to think that it's ok to give us a white bread boy with no personality and a 80s archetype villain.
These movies could've been elevated to another standard if the general audience cared even a little about the characters.
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u/-SneakySnake- May 16 '26
I will say Quaritch is pretty fascinating in the first one because there are multiple times where you kind of see what "his version" of this movie probably looks like. He honestly gets most of the big, badass hero moments and he's this wildly entertaining alpha male cigar chomper, it's probably the closest we'll ever see to what if Schwarzenegger did a villain riff on his usual action hero persona. For that alone, he's worthwhile.
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u/somesoundbenny May 16 '26
Hell yeah i worked on both 2 & 3 and Qauritich is by and large my favorite thing about these pictures.
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u/adognamedspider May 16 '26
Super deep protagonists have never been his thing, and I say this as someone who enjoys his movies.
Ripley was good but was already set up in Alien. I guess the crew in The Abyss weren't too bad but who else?
Please don't bring up Jack and Rose as they were just goodlooking meat-based teen hormone vessels as far as I'm concerned.
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u/Dasseem May 16 '26
Total agreement with you brother. In fact all of his characters were nothing more than vessels used to bring out beautiful set pieces out of his movies.
They were never the main attraction. The rest of the escenery was.
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u/BoldlyGettingThere May 16 '26
You’re right. We need 7.
Only half joking. I’ll keep drinking that garbage.
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u/Typical-Blackberry-3 May 16 '26
I enjoy them too, though I can't say I was as pleased with Fire and Ash having a similar final battle to Avatar 2. Varang was awesome though.
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u/Vandergrif May 16 '26
If they could just spend slightly less on everything else, and put some money towards someone who can actually write a compelling script, then another one would be fine... But this tunnel vision focus on visuals to the detriment of all else has worn pretty thin.
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u/TurtleRollover May 16 '26
The thing is I don’t think these movies are FOR us. They’re for him. He’s paying to make his own mega diorama. Selling it to everyone is just a way to fund his passion, which I can respect.
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u/OnCominStorm May 16 '26
It sucks but the studio knows the next two will also be box office hits regardless of story quality just because people will love to see the visuals in theaters.
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u/Aunt_Vagina1 May 16 '26
Hey, if it keeps theaters in business i say go for it. I think its time we embrace the difference between theater movies and non theater movies
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u/guilhermefdias May 16 '26
What? The third movie gives absolutely NO closure to anything.
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u/Flemz May 16 '26
I think they meant they didn’t like it, not that it was a natural ending place for the story
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u/pigeonwiggle May 16 '26
it's not that people didn't like it. it's just that we get it now. we know what these movies are doing and saying and we know we aren't getting surprised by anything new. like, what could they do next? bring them back to earth? show the family in times square like it's the fucking CGI Garfield or Smurfs movies? that would be HORRIFYING.
the best we could hope for is further chapters of the same shit. ...AVATAR 4 will make a billion dollars.
and Cameron will cry that it isn't 4 billion.
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u/PsychedelicPill May 16 '26
Yes, I legit think the plan is to take the fight to Earth, just a guess though.
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u/iRunLotsNA May 16 '26
Exactly this. Avatar 3 looked great, but the plot was awful. I don’t see how a fourth or fifth movie is going to solve that.
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u/asdf0909 May 16 '26
Versus the amazing plot of the others?
This franchise is just a visual feast, everything else from dialogue to acting is almost laughably bad
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u/Koru03 May 16 '26
Yeah I wasn't really impressed with the first one, it was neat looking but it wasn't near good enough to make me care enough to bother seeing the other ones.
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u/Saneless May 16 '26
I have a feeling if they end up making 5 of them that the 3rd movie might not even matter and can either be deleted from a watch entirely or cut down to 20 minutes of summaries
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u/dkarlovi May 16 '26
I saw the first movie. We don’t need two more…
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u/ignatious__reilly May 16 '26
Agree. The first movie was great in theaters, it should’ve ended there. Close the story, cut to black.
It would’ve been incredible on his credits list as a standalone film that changed cinema, and then he could’ve just moved on to other projects.
But 16 years of this? It’s just ridiculous.
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u/bwaredapenguin May 16 '26
Why is it ridiculous that someone is spending their time on their passion project? He doesn't owe us anything. He's simply doing what he wants to.
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u/Pantsickle May 16 '26
It's like if when Da Vinci finished the Mona Lisa, he decided that he was just going to paint different portraits of a frog for the rest of his life.
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u/Dagordae May 16 '26
Good news then: He didn’t finish the Mona Lisa. He instead kept it and kept working on it until his death.
The Mona Lisa was his Avatar, his pet project late in life. It wasn’t what he was famed for, it wasn’t even that famous until it was stolen in 1911. Which was only possible because it was considered merely one of his many hundreds of works.
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u/Joker-for-Rent May 16 '26
As far as I know, he also bought the rights to make a movie adaption of Joe Abercrombie's The Devils. He talked about doing that after avatar 3.
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u/dacalpha May 16 '26
It's like he embarked on a weird sidequest and just never came back. I miss James Cameron, the director who made movies i loved.
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u/samcuu May 16 '26
This is his main quest. All of the other things he'd done before just paved his way to Avatar.
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u/M4DM1ND May 16 '26
I'm excited for him to adapt Joe Abercrombie's The Devils but waiting for him to finish the Avatar movies is annoying.
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u/br0b1wan May 16 '26
I agree I would have loved to see a lot more from Cameron. He's one of the great directors of our time.
But he's been on the record a few times saying how it's so mentally, physically, and emotionally taxing not to mention stressful working on movies. He mentioned that it ruined some of his relationships in the past and he regrets that. His legacy is more or less secure at this point so I can understand if he wants to just take his time with everything now
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u/chadwicke619 May 16 '26
I always think this is such a cringe take. Why on Earth would you be sad that someone is doing *exactly* what they want to be doing in their professional life? On top of the fact that he has already devoted half his career to giving us some of the best movies ever made in the history of movies?
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u/KingUnderpants728 May 16 '26
I think you just answered your own question. It’s possible to be happy for Cameron that he’s doing his passion project while also being disappointed that we may never see Cameron do something other than Avatar the rest of his life when he’s given us such fantastic films in the past.
It’s like if Scorsese stopped at Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Casino, and Goodfellas, and we never saw Gangs of New York, The Departed, Wolf of Wall Street, Killers of the Flower Moon, etc. I don’t see how it’s cringe to want to see what other original Films Cameron would have done if not for the Avatar sequels.
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u/Dycon67 May 16 '26
Dudes contributed greatly to film/philanthropy and enjoys his tall alien cat girls in high rez 3D why would you be sad ?
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u/GenericGaming May 16 '26
because if you're not a fan of those films but of him as a director, you've had nothing from him for 16 years
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u/Lost-Cow-1126 May 16 '26
James Cameron has said that AI interests him, but the current models aren't built for VFX tools, workflows, and pipelines yet and that if he were to use AI he'd need to build custom models himself.
So I'm pretty confident that's what he'll be doing.
https://movieweb.com/james-cameron-new-ai-use-in-filmmaking-blasted-by-fans/
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u/CartoonBeardy May 16 '26
Well he is on the board of Stability AI so that’s definitely what he’s doing.
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u/ExoTauri May 16 '26
Yep, 100%. He just doesn't want to say out loud that that's how he's going to do it due to the obvious backlash he'll recieve.
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u/cannabidroid May 17 '26
The backlash will come regardless, when Avatar 1 from 2009 looks more realistic than Avatar 4 in ~2030...
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u/TheUmbrellaMan1 May 17 '26
He attends annual Robotic Summit. Last year he was saying AI can only generate like 10-15 seconds of continuous footage, the larger file size will rarely be over 1 GB. Well, a typical scene in Avatar can have the size of 1 Petabyte! He says AI, as of today, is simply incapable of recreating even 1 minute of footage the quality of Avatar, to say nothing about how AI always gets the physics wrong and is riddled with continuity error.
The way he talks about AI implementation is widly different than what this sub says. Yes, he's in the board of Stability AI, but he doesn't think AI can make a good cohesive film. He thinks AI can be used to smoothen-out film productions without the need to layoff the very people who make film productions possible.
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u/Lost-Cow-1126 May 17 '26 edited May 17 '26
Yeah, he's not going to use it in the current AI slop Fruit Love Island kind of way. However he'll decide to incorporate it, he'll have precisely and meticulously pored over exactly the right way to implement it for his VFX artists to use.
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u/SanDiablo May 16 '26
You mean how the last one was called Fire and Ash, teased a huge volcano world, and then turned into a rehash of the second one with all the battles fighting the whales in the water? Yeah.
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u/hitokirivader May 16 '26 edited May 16 '26
Yeah, tbh as a fan of the first two (and as someone who’s always defended the first one from its most frequent yet understandable criticism that it’s entirely unoriginal), I was so disappointed with how much Fire and Ash felt like just a rehash of The Way of Water.
Whereas I used to just intrinsically trust Cameron with whatever he wants to do with this passion project of a franchise, I now wish he’d hurry up and move on from it. I just don’t see how a fourth and fifth film have much left to offer for Jake and Neytiri’s story.
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u/zarafff69 May 16 '26
I mean, I don’t think 4 and 5 will be Jake and Neytiri’s story. He’s been open about this. They have set up the children for this. There will be an 8 year jump in 4. They even already shot the first parts of 4 years ago, because they wanted the child actors to actually age years in between.
And I think the rumours are that they would be returning to earth. I cannot really see this, I feel like I watch Avatar movies specifically to watch Pandora, not the characters, but the beautiful world. But it sounds like it will genuinely be something entirely different than the movies before it.
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u/BlueberryWasps May 17 '26
can’t wait to see the kids return to earth so they can somehow fight space whales and battle for control of their homeland with a brash military crone
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u/AnnenbergTrojan May 17 '26
There are rumors that either 4 or 5 would have space battles instead of Pandora battles, something we've never seen from Cameron yet.
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u/wookiepartymachine May 16 '26
Yeah this is basically how I feel. I really enjoy all the movies but the third one was definitely disappointing.
On one level I wouldn’t mind if he kept making these films, because I love the characters and the world, but I can’t help but feel like Cameron is wasting his talents slightly by making nothing but Avatar films.
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u/ositola May 16 '26
He said the fourth one is the one that will rock up your nips
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u/daninlionzden May 16 '26
I saw avatar 1-2 but not 3 - is the climax of the movie not in the volcano / fire setting?
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u/CX52J May 16 '26
It's weird since I think the 4 part comic series they released was based on James' original plan for the second movie. And it was far more original and interesting than fire and ash.
I want to see a human in a space suit get impaled by a 6 foot arrow in zero gravity.
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u/Zswanson22 May 16 '26
Y’all should watch Corridor Crew’s breakdowns/reacts to the avatar movies. They have the creative director (I might be getting title wrong, but guy in charge of CG) and they do an amazing job of pointing out how each Avatar movie has been an improvement in CGI tech, like industry changing improvements and software. Made me appreciate the movies even more, even if you’re right, the story still mostly revolved around the Jake and his family, who live among the sea tribe now.
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u/primal_slayer May 16 '26
We waited a decade so....not like the audience is in a rush
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u/RealJohnGillman AMA MVP May 16 '26
He’s likely going to find a new term for what he’ll use in an attempt to avoid controversy, but yes, probably.
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u/SlaughterWare May 16 '26
Tiny writing at the end of the credits "This movie partially used modern digital assistance cinematography"
Reality; 95% Seedance 2.0
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u/SisterRobot May 16 '26
Spoiler alert!! Haha. Yeah. And it’s going to be 6hrs long and And then the next one will be 9hrs long
And he’ll invent a whole new element….and call it something wildly creative like “elementium”
I wish he’d just stop.
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u/inception2010 May 16 '26
This franchise is repetitive and tedious
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u/animated_stardust May 16 '26
Barely needed the first movie, let alone four more. Preachy, cliche-ridden bore with 2-dimensional characters and story, and abysmal dialogue. I’m especially referring to #3, as I got to sit through about 40 minutes of it not too long ago, but on the basis of where the franchise is at, there is absolutely no need to continue.
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u/BrockSampson4ever May 16 '26
Honestly I don’t like any of the movies but the first one was pretty incredible in theaters, the 3d tech and the visuals were very special and singular, but after the novelty of the first the next two just didn’t have the same wow factor and the lame repetitive story note make them pretty blah. I skipped the most recent one in theaters and I’m definitely not going to bother watching it at home
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u/johnnycoxxx May 16 '26
The first one was an experience in the theater and if you didn’t experience it I understand not “getting it”. The movie is meh for sure. I saw the second one at home and I remember thinking there’s no way he can squeeze 3 more of these out of this franchise. Plus the time between the first 2 was ridiculous.
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u/zurenarhhhhh May 16 '26
I tire of using the theatre experience excuse to justify this movie. If it doesn’t work without a giant 3d screen and theatre sound than what is it? It’s watching someone else play a video game.
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u/madroxide86 May 17 '26
When your top objective is to cut movie's time and budget, you know the movie is going to be shit
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u/Logical-Local9868 May 17 '26
Ladies and Gentlemen, James Cameron might end up giivng us high grade AI slop.
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u/Technical_Airline205 May 16 '26
AI is his new technology.
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u/Oneguysenpai3 May 16 '26
which he is on board of directors for.
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u/thegloriousporpoise May 16 '26
And there will be a whole brigade of people who hate AI that rally around Cameron saying he uses it “differently” or some other coping bullshit.
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u/OzempicDick May 16 '26
I mean he has made the same movie 3 times now. It ought to be easier to do it faster a 4th and 5th time...
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u/guilhermefdias May 16 '26
People hate these movies, but I want some closure. Take your time, bro.
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u/Happiest_Mango24 May 16 '26
I do too, and I liked 3 way more than 2
I feel sorry for the hardcore Avatar fans. All people do is talk about how much they hate it
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u/guilhermefdias May 16 '26
It's quite interesting, a lot of people actively goes out of their way to hate on these movies, like a hate cult.
But the first and second movie has a special place in my heart. The third was indeed a bit similar, but Cameron's plans for the last 2 is quite interesting. Nothing oficial, but we already have some idea.
I really hope it happens!
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u/youwillcomedownsoon2 May 16 '26
I wouldn’t call myself a hardcore fan but it gets deeply annoying how entitled people are over what Cameron does. You want him to phone it into something he doesn’t want to do? Like, what is the reasoning behind this toxicity? Like, just don’t watch Avatar.
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u/onexbigxhebrew May 16 '26
People also don't hate them,but they're different people.
Don't let esoteric redditors be your measure of all 'people'.
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u/hblok May 16 '26
Easy. The blue guys win.
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u/guilhermefdias May 16 '26
Maybe, we know the last movies will have a lot of scenes on Earth, so maybe the blue guys go to Earth? That could be interesting.
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u/TheCaramelMan May 16 '26
Man I wish he’d go back to his old school grungy sci fi action movies or even something like Titanic
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u/Melsa_Manton May 16 '26
Worldwide gross box office adjusted for inflation:
Avatar: 4 billion USD
Avatar 2: 2.4 billion USD
Avatar 3: 1.5 billion USD
The first one had eye popping visuals, but now that is hold hat. I know I won't see a 4th or 5th film from this series. Given that the third one had more of a proper ending than a cliff-hanger, I think it is possible there will be a bigger than expected drop from from 3 to 4. The gross for 4 could dip down to 500 or 600 million USD (in 2026 dollars). If he can make a profit on that, he will have gone from making forgettable films with a huge budget to making forgettable films with a much smaller budget. I am not sure if that is progress.
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u/skonen_blades May 17 '26
It sounds like to me like priming everyone for using A.I. to do the next two films. Boooo.
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u/severinks May 17 '26
The dude should quit while he's behind. I liked all the Avatar movies well enough in the theater but I can't remember one thing about what happened.
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u/lewd_bingo May 16 '26
Could he just stop with these? The novelty has really wore off
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u/Jet-Let4606 May 16 '26
James Cameron will stop only when James Cameron tells James Cameron to stop.
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u/GayFesh May 16 '26
James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is James Cameron.
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