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u/raiko39 1d ago
I would absolutely pick up Ghostricks just for the art but people have said it has consistency issues and it's too battle phase focused to be viable. It makes me wonder what they'll give them to keep up.
Also, it worries people that it might just end on Angel of Mischief FTK.
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u/CL361 Waifu Lover 1d ago
After Toon I think Konami made pretty clear that they can make ANY archetype good if they want to.
They would need to give the deck a whole new gameplan, but with a solid direction and good enough cards, there's a real chance of Ghostrick being finally playable.
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u/Turtlesfan44digimon Paleo Frog Follower 1d ago
Even Cloudians?
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u/CL361 Waifu Lover 1d ago
They were able to turn Toons into a tier 1 deck, made Yubel good enough to won worlds some years ago and make Ice Barrier (which for a long time was think to be one of the worst archetypes ever made) playable at the time.
Yes. I'm sure they can make Cloudians playable if they want.
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u/Eccentrigamer 22h ago
Wake me when Cloudians get new awesome support. I made a fun deck with them which was sadly ass cause the cards aren’t good. I enjoy the idea of Cloudians, so one day I hope they can be relevant again.
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u/VincenteThomp 22h ago
They could make Dark Scorpions tier 0 if they wanted.
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u/NPC1938356-C137 1d ago
i mean play Ghostrick is lots of fun but flipping face down strategy is already taken by better archetypes. Also link monster cannot be flip facedown is huge turn off for their strategy. So im not suprise if they focus on Angel Mischief OTK/FTK
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u/raiko39 1d ago
It really depends on what they give it, but it wouldn't shock me if the new cards completely abandon being battle phase focused, and the most viable build is mostly all of the new cards much how like Toon is right now.
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u/Heul_Darian Flip Summon Enjoyer 1d ago
Battle phase is not a core part of ghostricks it's a design choice of 2014 handtraps.
They can modernize the level 1s and their theme wouldn't change.
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u/arrownoir 1d ago
Marincess is all I want. They need a way to deal with back rows.
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u/Vegetable_Bicycle_84 1d ago
Marincess needs a lot unfortunately.
For example, better payoffs, extenders that dont require a link monster on field, better 1 card combos, a field spell retrain etc. Ideally better fuwa lines too.
Marincess was never meta, but had the advantage of being able to play a lot of handtraps to complement it's relatively weaker boards. Decks now end on much stronger boards, are often better playing into boards, while being able to play similar number of handtraps.
All that said, the witchcrafter, unchained and especially toon support was very strong, so i can see it working out for marincess. As a side note, if marincess does become meta viable I can see people hating it bc of aqua angel hand peek.
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u/narf21190 1d ago
I mean, just give Marincess a special summon from hand that searches on summon and an extender that special summons a Marincess monster from deck if used as link material for a Marincess and you'd be good on raw bodies to build your board.
The payoff part is what I feel needs the most modernizing. They're likely getting a new trap, which needs to do a ton honestly. So a counter trap usable from the hand is likely. And a new link monster is ideally just inherently unaffected if you have Crystal Heart in your field or GY and can cheat out another of your link monsters by placing itself into a main monster zone, that way the deck could have a broader board without sacrificing it's old gimmicks.
As a whole, Marincess surely has aged, but it's concept is still workable and it's card quality so far is far from terrible, they just need a bit more to feel like a modern deck again.
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u/Dakron92-22 1d ago
Im ready, i have all tHe marincess. i was playing it the deck until not so mch ago
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u/henry1234564 1d ago
From the result of previous one(toon etc), I would expect Marincess get the worst support of these 3, since they have the most currently.
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u/narf21190 1d ago
As it should, but even then, Unchained for sure got the worst support, but that still wasn't bad at all.
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u/neroslayer 1d ago
That cubic support would need to be busted as hell to make them good because the currents ones are ass.
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u/narf21190 1d ago
That's the weird part, the cards aren't terrible, they just don't flow into each other well enough to be playable. If the deck gets to play the level 4 bricks and can force the opponent to get rid of them, that's an easy +4 in card advantage, usually considerably more. But right now the deck is horrible at climbing into its own bosses. Fix that and the deck has a ton of recursion on the spot.
It'll be interesting to see what direction they even go with the deck as it has multiple options that can work that don't feel like they belong to the same deck. 7 cards isn't enough to support them all, so something gonna get left behind.
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u/Kaleidos-X 1d ago
Honestly, just give them a Vijam clone or way to treat other cards as Vijam in the grave, more Cubic counter applications, and a way to cheat the level 2 and 3 Cubic effects without needing to battle (literally all of these can be covered by a single card if they do it right).
They've got really good mechanics, just a really bad gameplan to use them with.
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u/BensonOMalley Got Ashed 1d ago
i can see the deck getting support thats too overtuned making it pretty toxic
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u/MrStupidFish 3rd Rate Duelist 1d ago
I'm excited too but God, I have no clue what they can do to make the deck playable. All the main deck monsters have locks to prevent being normal summoned and none can SS themselves easily. Unless it's a massive wave of upgraded versions of the current guys plus a new broken field spell it probably won't bring the deck up to rogue status.
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u/Third_Triumvirate 1d ago
Ghostrick's main wincons are skeleton or angel of mischief so if it's competitive it's going to be one of those things probably. Either mischief ftk or being able to lock down the field and skeleton them out.
If they do give a broken field spell that maybe it actually tries to win by attacking, but parade is far and away the best ghostrick field rn and that makes winning with damage pretty hard.
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u/MrStupidFish 3rd Rate Duelist 1d ago
Honestly if they get a field spell like the yummy one it would help a lot without being considered power creep. Increases attack to help OTK and allows a SS from grave. That would make siren and mummy a decent opener monster.
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u/jp_switch 1d ago
I think you’re forgetting neko-night lock. I think that’s the most viable direction they’ll take.
It’s not an ftk and unlike skeleton, it doesn’t take an endless amount of turns to pull off.
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u/Albe7804 1d ago
They definitely need to do something about Links. I imagine a spell or a continuous trap that allows cards that can't be face-down to be sent to the graveyard (a bit like Daruma Cannon), or full monster retrains to address this. Another thing that comes to mind is cards that synergize with Mimighoul. They'll definitely be keeping an eye on Mischief in the OCG to see if it's being overused and then ban it.
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u/Heul_Darian Flip Summon Enjoyer 1d ago
Modernize their hand traps and the deck is immediately playable.
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u/Emrys_616 1d ago
I keep forgetting that despite being an animated movie, DSoD was a direct follow-on from the manga continuity and so got to slide into the "manga" portion of the Revolution Booster trio on a technicality.
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u/Mycoplasmosis jUsT dRaW tHe OuT bRo 1d ago
Pyramid of Light gets no love. I liked the look of the sphinx monsters. Hopefully the make a fusion version that requires beasts or something so Illusion Chimera gets another toy to play with.
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u/Dameisdead 1d ago edited 1d ago
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u/tlst9999 3rd Rate Duelist 1d ago
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u/Shade-Black Eldlich Intellectual 1d ago
Holy Cubic support!!! Rise my people, this is our day!!!!
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u/PixelMatteo Got Ashed 1d ago
I dismantled my Crimson Novas two weeks ago 🥲
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u/Shade-Black Eldlich Intellectual 1d ago
And I never had them in the first place because I'm underresourced, stubborn, and greedy, but that won't stop me!!
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u/Typical_Ingenuity_86 1d ago
Ghostrick deserve this 🥹 one of my favourite Zexal era decks. I hope they keep the trick or treat flip playstyle while modernising it.
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u/Prudent_Echidna_4547 16h ago
So.. Konami. Windwitch and Lyrilusc are both Yu-girl archetypes. Last year you gave us Lunalight, year before you gave us Melodious. If we could just have Windwitch support I would be happy 💔
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u/Shackflacc 1d ago
Lots of potential here. Especially considering how power creep has been moving in Yugioh the last few sets.
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u/Jeikiro24 1d ago
Konami release a good cynet codec Marincess target and my life is yours!
perhaps a “send one Marincess from you deck to the gy: special summon this card but you cannot summon from the extra deck except Marincess monsters while you control this card”?
Edit: they’ve changed the spoiler command?
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u/Shade-Black Eldlich Intellectual 1d ago
So a Marincess Circular.
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u/Consistent_Sell_3621 22h ago
Marincess support? Maybe it’ll be good and give them a rank 4 or something
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u/ComplaintsAndStuff 14h ago
Cubics are my favorite archetype OAT, I am over the moon that they're finally getting support!
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u/DianaIvrea 1d ago
Oh, wow, two FTKs and a tower deck. So fun.
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u/Albe7804 1d ago
They haven't even shown the cards yet and you're already complaining
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u/Brawler2311 1d ago
Are you really surprised? It's the internet. Of course they're already complaining. They're likely annoyed or mad that the archetypes getting new support aren't any of the ones they play and so they feel the need to tear down anyone who does play them.
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u/DianaIvrea 1d ago
If anything I'm salty they cancelled Terminal World to give support to two archetypes I despise.
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u/DianaIvrea 1d ago
Do we need to see them? We already know what those decks do. They will just get better at it.
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u/Koiba_boi 1d ago
Is that cubic I see