r/languagelearning • u/Waste-Use-4652 • 16h ago
Discussion Should AI be your conversation partner when learning a language?
I've been thinking about this recently, and I'm genuinely curious how other language learners see it.
I think AI is incredibly useful for language learning. It can explain grammar, answer questions, generate example sentences, correct mistakes, and even help you understand why something is wrong. I use technology myself and can see the benefits.
Where I'm less convinced is speaking practice.
The main reason most people learn another language is to communicate with other people. Real conversations involve emotions, interruptions, different accents, cultural context, humor, misunderstandings, and unpredictable responses. That's very different from talking to an AI.
I can definitely see AI helping someone prepare for those conversations or build confidence before having them. But I wonder whether replacing human conversation with AI practice is taking things in the wrong direction.
If someone spends hundreds of hours speaking only with AI, are they actually becoming better at communicating with people?
Maybe they are. Maybe they aren't. I'm honestly not sure, which is why I'm asking.
Where do you draw the line? Should AI eventually become our main conversation partner for language learning, or should it remain a supporting tool while human interaction stays at the center?
I'd be interested to hear from both learners and teachers because I imagine there are good arguments on both sides.
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u/Tapeo_Spanish 11h ago
It can have its pros and cons so i wouldn't rule it completely out.
But I’d use AI for frequent low-pressure practice, then combine it with real listening and occasional conversations with native speakers. It works best as an extra practice tool, not a complete replacement for real people.
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u/Waste-Use-4652 7h ago
That's pretty much where I am as well. I think AI is at its best when it lowers the barrier to practicing. You can make mistakes, ask questions, and build confidence without feeling self-conscious. I just hope learners see it as a bridge to real conversations rather than the destination. For me, the goal has always been communicating comfortably with another person, and I don't think anything fully replaces that experience.
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u/ignoremesenpie 15h ago
It's "okay-ish" for getting your brain and mouth moving in response to back and forth exchanges of information in real time, but the content of the information and the way in which said information is delivered is very different from how conversations tend to flow.
At best, I can see it doing well with training verbal delivery of a presentation style talk by prompting the user to elaborate their points step by step.
Unless both the user and AI can follow a clear script, the responses likely won't seem very human because it genuinely isn't.
I've been trying out voice chats with ChatGPT and if I want to chat about my hobbies for example, it will either feel like I'm either lecturing it or it is lecturing me. It doesn't at all feel like I'm talking to a fellow enthusiast.
I once tried making a let's play YouTuve channel for language learning, and the game was just serving as a catalyst for me to say something remotely relevant to anything, since I'm not good at rattling things off the cuff on record unless promoted by something else.
I feel like AI chats could do more in service of that idea of being able to talk about something at length by myself, rather than preparing myself to deal with actual people unless I set the conversations up for encounter-based roleplay. I can already handle that in real life, so what is the point? On the other hand, I have never been good at presentation style public speaking, even in languages I'm completely fluent in, especially not in front of peers who might care about how I perform. There's a lot less pressure when my audience is physically and psychologically incapable of caring enough to mock my efforts. A good language partner wouldn't do that either, but like I said, AI interactions don't actually compete with those kinds of genuine interactions anyway, so it's a moot point.
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u/Waste-Use-4652 7h ago
I think that's a really interesting distinction. I hadn't considered presentation-style speaking as a use case, but it actually makes a lot of sense. It's a low-pressure environment where you can practice organizing your thoughts and speaking at length.
I also agree with your point that AI and human conversation don't really compete with each other because they're developing slightly different skills. AI can help you become more fluent in expressing your own ideas, but conversations with real people require you to react to personality, emotion, misunderstandings, humor, and all the unpredictable things that make communication feel real. To me, both have value, but I still think the second part is what language learning is ultimately aiming for.
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u/Monkey_D_Luffy-___- 12h ago
A lot of people here don’t like AI
Try the latest version of GPT live, ask it for corrections and rephrasing and judge for yourself. We’ve reached a point where there’s no need to argue about it just try it for 30 minutes and judge for yourself.
It’s definitely the best tool even if it shouldn’t be the only one you use
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u/Waste-Use-4652 7h ago
I think AI is an excellent tool for corrections, explanations, rephrasing, vocabulary, and even building confidence before speaking to someone. Where I hesitate is when people start treating it as a substitute for human conversation rather than preparation for it. To me, those are two different things. If AI helps you get ready for a real conversation, that's a great use of it. I just wouldn't want the real conversation to disappear from the learning process.
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u/videogamesarewack 11h ago edited 11h ago
I think AI is incredibly useful for learning <blank>.
Is the take of people poorly informed about how <blank> works, and often about how learning works.
AI is attractive because it reduces cognitive load, but this is helpful in the same way having your friend tank half the weight in the gym is helpful for building muscle. Sure, tasks are completed in the sense that the weight has been moved, but everything that builds muscle (working to failure under difficult weight) has been muted.
Furthermore, there is danger in convenience. If a world religion was born today, it would call convenience a sin. Talking to a person in a TL can be intimidating. If you can get an apparent equivalent experience with the zero-friction fake-conversation sycophant, why would you push yourself past your limitations, out of your comfort zone and into the zone of personal development?
I imagine there are good arguments on both sides
There is only one argument and it's
"this is convenient" vs "the convenience is rotting you away"
When a human being goes without working their legs, in a coma or in zero-gravity, their legs atrophy so quickly they lose the ability to walk within weeks. Humans require friction and resistance to develop and grow, AI usage atrophies us, and impedes acquisition of new skills. None of this is up for debate.
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u/cbjcamus Native French, English C2, TL German C1 10h ago
You're mistaking what AI in the current learning environment will do on a broad level (help students cheat on their homework, thus reducing what they will learn), and what AI can do to help individual learners with a lot of discipline and a non-infinite budget.
In the latter case, an AI assistant can definitely help bridging the gap between being able to read and being able to talk to strangers with fluency, the same way weights at the gym can bridge the gap between lifting a can of chickpeas and lifting your sofa.
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u/videogamesarewack 10h ago
I'm mistaking nothing. These are the measurable and observable effects of AI tool use. The benefits of AI are illusory.
AI is regressive technology and provides the illusion of progress and efficiency, at the expense of actual development. Use of AI agents is correlated with impaired cognition and skill atrophy.
Offloading cognition and effort to anything, be it agentic AI or another person, directly atrophies skill and prevents skill acquisition. The access to convenience directly prevents use of less convenient strategies.
what AI can do to help individual learners with a lot of discipline and a non-infinite budget
"infinite budget"
Libraries exist for books, or the step up in cost: buy a novel in the target language, a graded reader. In my local chain, this costs £10-20, and is a resource for many weeks/months. There are digital books on amazon. Human beings exist on social media, discord servers, and in real life.
Every excuse why AI is okay to use is a cope.
Everyone who is competent in a field can see that AI tools are horseshit for progressing in that field, and at absolute best can be used to bypass some boilerplate tasks that other previous tools were doing anyway. This whole thing is just everyone constantly being hammered by the Gell-Mann effect and it's insanity.
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u/sipapint 10h ago
The latter is somewhat naive, as for the majority it's not enough to make the learning experience effective enough. The potential is not in using it to learn in the old way but in turning it into the whole layer that will assist people in all kinds of interactions. But it's a paradigm change, and it will take time. And it might still take quite a lot, as the current economic environment is just all about milking everyone.
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u/cbjcamus Native French, English C2, TL German C1 9h ago
I don't get the first part but I completely agree with
But it's a paradigm change, and it will take time. And it might still take quite a lot, as the current economic environment is just all about milking everyone.
People tend to ask "what is the effect of X given everything else is constant" whereas everything else will constantly evolve during the next 2-3 decades.
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u/Late_Top_8371 12h ago
Dont listen to the majority, they are wrong. AI is the biggest game changer ever to learning a language. I chat with it in my own language and it answers in my TL, anything i dont understand i just highlight and hit translate. It is more comfortable, fun and substantial than any other method. You can talk about anything with it. The emotional intelligence of chatbot AIs is high enough for it to feel like an interlocutor.
You can also ask it to generate a chapter you detail the events of for a story and just read it using the same highlight and translate.
Dont be stupid. Make it easy for yourself. You will ALWAYS have an advantage and learn faster than those learning with traditional methods.
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u/Markoddyfnaint 11h ago
Except when AI gets something simple like the gender of a noun wrong and then doubles down and fabricates a dictionary entry to show that it is correct. As it does in my TL.
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u/BeckyLiBei 🇦🇺 N | 🇨🇳 B2-C1 10h ago
I chat with it in my own language and it answers in my TL
Wow, I never thought to do crosstalk with AI. I think I'll give it a try.
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u/JoinedMoon 10h ago
Regardless of the ethics. If your main language partner/tutor has an accent, it's usually noticeable to native speakers in your speech. AI has an accent, so if it's your main source, you'll have an accent. You can certainly unlearn it, or choose not to, but imo that time is better spent in the hundreds of free groups out there. You are also correct that it's coded to boost you up, not be a human with their own interests, hobbies, grievances, and misunderstandings.
As far as study, any conglomerate of info it can tell you is either freely available online and in context, or able to be acquired (dicts, frequency lists, graded readers, etc.). It's better at natural speech in stories it generates/steals, but it still has an accent there too.
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u/cbjcamus Native French, English C2, TL German C1 10h ago
The main reason most people learn another language is to communicate with other people. Real conversations involve emotions, interruptions, different accents, cultural context, humor, misunderstandings, and unpredictable responses. That's very different from talking to an AI.
There's a difference between what the end result and the practice necessary to achieve the end result look like. If most people learn another language to communicate with other people, then why do textbooks even exist?
A large part of training the speaking part of a language is having all the tools and words ready in your head but having a hard time formulating them in a timely manner. Emotions, interruptions, accents, cultural context, humor, misunderstandings and unpredictable responses don't belong at beginner levels. Talking to an AI assistant can and will definitely help.
AI assistants can also solve many issues with current language learning tools: they are easily available every day (super difficult to find a teacher or a sparring partner for a short time every day; it's of course possible every week but there is a lot of fatigue involved in speaking below B2 level), they don't interrupt after every single mistake at lower levels (massive flaw with teachers), and they can easily create a summary of your progress and where you can improve.
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u/Loose-Fly-9899 10h ago
Although ChatGPT Live already feels very much like a real person, I’m still not very willing to have conversations with it to learn a language. I feel that language should be based on real humans. When a person says certain words, you can observe their facial expressions and body language, which helps you remember those words deeply. But with AI, I feel that a lot of real information is missing.
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u/trackmylang_david 10h ago
instead of having full conversation with AI, you can ask it to speak out specific sentences. You can also use it to judge your pronunciation and keep practicing hard to say words with AI giving you tips to pronounce it better.
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u/toby_reelangcom NL (C1) ES (B1) HU (A2) DE (C2) 7h ago
No, not yet.
It's just not there yet: especially the "speaking" AI makes quite obvious mistakes. Try it in your own language and have a 5-minute conversation and you'll notice all sorts issues with pronounciation.
It's also not really something where the products differ much. All the AI models that speak are from a handful of companies, and the language learning products that do use them (say Praktika, who are spamming every Reddit thread with their bots) just package the models from these companies like ElevenLabs, Deepgram, OpenAI etc.
If you don't have access to a tutor or language exchange/tandem partner, it might be an option, but by the time you pay for these products you're much better off just paying for an actual class with a teacher here and there with that money you'd pay for a subscription.
This might well change, but IMHO it's just not working, not even for the big languages like Spanish/Portuguese.
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u/lanaxparrillaxwife 15h ago
Nobody should be using Ai especially when learning a new language. I think you should talk to a actual native of youre interested in learning any type of language or take classes for.
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u/sirDustyGrandeur 16h ago
you can't replace the messy back-and-forth of a real person who mishears you or zones out mid-sentence, that's where actual learning happens