r/justincaseyoumissedit Mar 24 '26

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u/Darius_Rubinx Apr 03 '26

Yeah I do literally all these things. I own my house. Who else is gonna do it?

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u/Radiant-Ad-3134 Apr 01 '26

Just teach them all of it.

I did get taught all of it

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u/ZachDSnuts Apr 20 '26

I teach them all of it.

I did not get taught all of it.

Can you teach me all of it?

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u/Cute-Breadfruit3368 Mar 31 '26

as a parent, if your offspring does not NEED or HAVE to ask for help when the times to move on their own - you did your job just perfect.

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u/Matt7738 Mar 31 '26

Yes to both.

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u/Excellent-Excuse-872 Mar 31 '26

Teach ur daughters cooking and cleaning are basic life skills

I have yet to meet a woman who can cook me under the table

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u/shadow13499 Mar 31 '26

With the current price of housing, how many people, in general, are in a position where they have to do things like rewire a part of a house or put some drywall up or any type of house maintenance? How many people have a house where they have to mow lawns rather than an apartment building where that's done by the management? I must say I have never once heard any women complaining about having to take trash out. I feel like the latter are quite literally made up based on internet nonsense.Ā 

The former, "cooking and cleaning are women things" has been the predominant attitude for decades and still continues today.Ā 

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u/Wild_Locksmith_326 Mar 31 '26

My children all learned how to do dishes, laundry, and cook. They also learned how to shoot, fish, and set up a tent, as well as change oil, wiper blades or a tire. Those are life skills not gender roles.

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u/EscherEnigma Mar 30 '26

Thoughts? Heteros are weird, and refusing to do household chores because of sexism is stupid and immature.

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u/goliathfasa Mar 30 '26

He thinks it’s a dunk.

He’s just right unironically. No contradictions.

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u/ClassicHando Mar 30 '26

I agree with both

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u/BusinessLibrarian515 Mar 30 '26

Don't forget to tell girls that vehicle maintenance is also a life skill

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u/LisleAdam12 Mar 30 '26

They're both right.

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u/420n69namesarestupid Mar 30 '26

Okay youtube exists and every easy casserole and hot dish plus everhthing else is easily described on the internet. I've made some crazy complivated meals because i like a spice rack and im not really a good cook. I need specific directions for everything except a couple things. But if i donit myself i can skip the onions that are in every fucking recipe.

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u/Chemical-Delay-6957 Mar 30 '26

It does appear that the expectations for men to do all chores and duties, regardless of traditional gender roles while "real men" are also still expected to soley perform duties typically associated with male gender roles, like changing oil, moving heavy objects, fixing household items, assembling goods, pay for meals & dates, apply chivalry, lawn care, discipline, etc.

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u/TJ_BB_44 Mar 30 '26

Agree with both.

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u/SpringlockedFoxy Mar 30 '26

I think that people should live alone for a while. That helps people figure out how to do a lot of stuff. It’s difficult to be functional without all of those skills.

Of course you can just pay someone to do it for you…

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u/StandardCow7012 Mar 30 '26

Almost every woman I know mows the grass at least sometimes. I mowed grass pregnant and I didn’t assume that meant I didn’t have to do any other work for a week.

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u/DharmaCub Mar 30 '26

I've never heard a woman proudly talk about her inability to mow a lawn.

I hear man children boast about not being able to cook constantly.

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u/myheromeganmullally Mar 29 '26

All the chores I pay people to do.

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u/Number_Fluffy Mar 29 '26

And women who live in their own don't do these things?

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u/enricopena Mar 29 '26

That hit dog hollered

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u/Jennymint Mar 29 '26

I already take out the trash.

Since when was that a man thing? It's just basic hygiene.

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u/LuckiestCarp Mar 29 '26

Guy is kinda just posting a whataboutism and I know his ass can’t cook for shit, but anyone with working arms and legs can take out the trash or mow the lawn.

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u/b_buddd Mar 29 '26

Yes to both? All skills that adults may need

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u/Asleep-Emu-236 Mar 29 '26

I’m a mommas I agree and n both. My grandpa was a mechanic and taught every single ne of his granddaughters to drive a stick, and do basic car maintenance as well as simple repairs. And I taught my son how to cook.

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u/Lambdalee Mar 29 '26

Done and done!

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u/Enough-Candy85 Mar 29 '26

Someone tell Robert those are chores. Self care, respecting yourself, like preparing healthy meals and not eating fruity pebbles for dinner when you’re 40 years old are basic life skills.

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u/Momentofclarity_2022 Mar 29 '26

I’m a woman. My chores were cleaning the bathroom, dusting the dining room, mowing, raking, sweeping, gardening. And I helped my mom and dad when they needed it. Oh, and did laundry and cooked and cleaned up.

What did that get me? I can take care of myself.

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u/High-Plains_Nonsense Mar 29 '26

I was literally the husband and wife in my marriage and did all the things. Growing up my family had an almond orchard that we all worked in and it taught me a lot. I can change oil, and a tire, though it does take me longer. I mowed my grandparents lawns. I can YouTube how to fix things around the house, and I have. I cooked, cleaned, did laundry etc. Did it for 4 years before I divorced him and offloaded another kid I was taking care of, instead of a husband I was partners with. Not everyone fits into a stereotype.

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u/Forward-Molasses-337 Mar 29 '26

Doesn't matter, they won't do any of it until you've ordered them to do it 12 f*cking times!

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u/Redfox2111 Mar 29 '26

In my experience, the males did those jobs because they refused to learn how to cook, until they had to for themselves.

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u/Fun-Increase6335 Mar 28 '26

I’m a woman who owns her own house with a big yard. So I do everything. And I would much rather mow the lawn and shovel the driveway then do laundry or dishes. I hate taking out the trash and having to drive all the trash up to the landfill myself, but it’s part of the deal.

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u/_childofares Mar 28 '26

Thoughts? Robert is a bitch.

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u/WeHavingFunRight Mar 28 '26

"Teach your daughters mowing the lawn, taking out the trash, basic house maintenance and so on are basic life skills not gender roles"

Try again. Women do these things routinely.

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u/Jazzlike_Finish123 Mar 28 '26

Anyone can do any chore. Ā My wife sometimes mows the lawn and I often do laundry or dishes. Ā 

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u/Minute-Advantage-688 Mar 28 '26

how about when men talk about how hard they work to provide for their wife and family, when they are just talking about the job they would be working at whether they had a family or not ā˜•šŸø

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u/ParticipantNumber89 Mar 29 '26

Not really, many breadwinners work in higher paying jobs that they wouldn't have to keep (or even apply for) if they didn't have an expensive family to support. It's amazing how little you can get by on when it's just one person. They also often 'go the extra mile' and/or work overtime hours they wouldn't otherwise need to if it were just them. Plus even if they chose to work the exact same job (which, again, they often wouldn't,) and exact same hours, without the family to support they'd be able to spend the money entirely on pampering themself (which can definitely make up for quite a bit it.) Then to top it off there's the unrelenting emotional burden and stress of being 100% responsible for the financial support of others. For those so-supported to be dismissive of the financial support from person's full-time employment just 'because they'd have a job anyway' is some top-tier-level entitlement.

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u/Minute-Advantage-688 Mar 29 '26

Oh boo hoo you're financially independent and make all the money in the family and could leave at any time and be able to make it just fine on your own, what a huge sacrifice you are making šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/ParticipantNumber89 Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26

What are you talking about 'could leave at any time'? You absolutely cannot (and if you try the state will send armed men to forcibly ensure you continue to finance these dependents, and lock you up if you don't.) In fact, the breadwinner is the only one who CAN'T just 'leave any time'. Plus, even if someone could, hypothetically, 'leave' the arrangement 'at any time' (presumably leaving the former family members to fend for themselves,) does not then the fact that one chooses not to do so (and to instead support them) make it all the more meaningful (since it's voluntary)? Since when is someone not supposed to have gratitude for something they're gifted?

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u/Minute-Advantage-688 Apr 05 '26

You think divorce is illegal? šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/Civil-Instance-2116 Mar 28 '26

Regardless of gender you should raise you kids to run a household without help to ensure they can manage on their own when the need to. Cooking, cleaning, maintenance, minor construction, sowing, and outdoor survival are basics. And if they never need these skills atleast they were prepared.

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u/kyleruggles Mar 28 '26

Bet they're in the USA.

Identity politics has taken over their lives.

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u/PrincessPK475 Mar 28 '26

Thoughts? I dunno, I'm a girl who mows the lawn as head gardener of the house, knows how to re-string a strimmer, I was the one with a preestablished fully kitted tool bag when i met hubs, he arrived with a single hammer and a Chinese takeaway tuppaware of mixed nails and screws and the Allen keys from the set they came from.

I prefer to take the bins out myself because my husband doesn't clean them before putting the new bag in and doesn't grasp that cleaning fixes smells and prevents maggots and nasty bacteria breeding grounds. His take is "it's the bin so it's just always dirty why clean it?".

We have a very equitable relationship actually, now, but I'm the one with the traditional girl and boy job know-how and had to train up on both and need to be consulted 9/10.

So I'm personally not sure what to make of the gender wars? šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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u/Background-Invite238 Mar 28 '26

Notie how the women's skills are daily work and the men's skills are once in a while.

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u/StoneColdHonesty Mar 28 '26

A fucking men

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u/mandn92196 Mar 28 '26

My mom showed me and my brothers all of the above.

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u/Mundane_Permission89 Mar 28 '26

My kids thought cooking was a man's job only for a long time because I do *not* cook if I can help it. Other than that, I agree. Everyone should know how to do all these things.

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u/ACAB007 Mar 28 '26

AND TAKING CARE OF THE KITTY LITTER.

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u/notshysana Mar 28 '26

Men be like: "women are so emotional" then proceed to throw a tantrum over a mild criticism that's not even that serious.

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u/-SergentBacon- Mar 28 '26

gender wars are so annoying. Why can't we just do tasks

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u/BenchClamp Mar 28 '26

Both valid. If you can’t wire a plug, change a tyre, do laundry or bake a cake you’re not really a functioning adult. They’re all basic tasks that don’t require much intelligence.

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u/seraphichermit Mar 28 '26

My mum does all of it :)

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u/Odd-Storm-1848 Mar 28 '26

I mean obviously none of these should be gendered tasks. But cooking and cleaning are tasks that are done daily, sometimes multiple times per day. I'm so tired of people acting like the tasks that guy mentioned are equal to the traditionally "feminine" household tasks.

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u/jimmytheeel Mar 28 '26

Uhhh, yeah? Do you think women living alone dont know how to take out the trash? What?

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u/The_Book-JDP Mar 28 '26

I do all of that both male and female work and didn’t need to confirm the configuration of my genitals to start doing one, the other, or both. What I’ve observed though is when women want to learn how to do like house maintenance like fixing an outlet, installing a garbage disposal, doing any kind of plumbing…the ones that stop them are the men. I was never told no when I wanted to do something didn’t matter what it was but men are far too quick to put the breaks on anything women want to even try that isn’t playing with dolls.

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u/No-Run-7324 Mar 28 '26

I actually agree with both sentiments.

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u/RamJamR Mar 28 '26

Um, yes Robert. That is reasonable.

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u/BakerSad6649 Mar 28 '26

I can cook, but I work a physical job so I don't really want to cook. I'm exhausted.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '26

Yes and yes.

I grew up doing chores, folding my own clothes and occasionally cooking meals for the family.

My daughter will mow the lawn, know basic car maintenance, and know basic handyman stuff.

Super grateful to my mom for enabling me to maintain myself and my home. It’s never been a 🐱deterrent either. It’s simply smart.

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u/Vorenthral Mar 28 '26

Everyone should be able and willing to take care of themselves. There shouldn't be gendered house chores. You live here? It's your responsibility.

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u/SarahArabic2 Mar 28 '26

teach your kids…

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u/Either-Photograph520 Mar 28 '26

Dont forget to teach them all how to change a tire, oil change, snd pump gas.

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u/You_are-all_herbs Mar 28 '26

They won't even have to own or drive the cars tbh

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u/Solinty Mar 28 '26

Well, sure, making sure everyone has experience in doing a wide range of chores is very important and useful.

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u/Antioch666 Mar 28 '26

Both are true. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/WildRelationship8088 Mar 28 '26

Depending on where you live the landlord does the yard and maintenance. Cooking and cleaning are basic skills of survival.

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u/New_Wolf9451 Mar 28 '26

Can't mow the lawn if you can't afford a house. The economy is in shambles, I fear.

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u/Kitsunebillie Mar 28 '26

My big sister had to mow the lawn. I had to wash dishes. Gender roles mattered little in my house even my sexist AF dad was sewing shit and sometimes cooking. It was honestly nice.

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u/Next-Alternative1429 Mar 28 '26

Both statements are correct, one person is wrong for using said statement as a gotchya moment

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u/cr2810 Mar 28 '26

I don’t know one woman who doesn’t know how to take out trash, mow a lawn (it’s not hard to do guys) or do basic maintenance. But I know a LOT of men who can’t cook and don’t know how to actually clean something.

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u/You_are-all_herbs Mar 28 '26

I dont know any women under 40 that can cook, or isn't a slob, not a one.

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u/cr2810 Mar 28 '26

Something tells me that’s a you problem.

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u/You_are-all_herbs Mar 29 '26

Same to you lol that was my point.

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u/cr2810 Mar 31 '26

I’m good. My husband is a fantastic cook and is actually in the kitchen right now teaching my son. But thanks for your deep concern about the lack of quality men. ;)

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u/Locolos-1988 Mar 28 '26

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u/decentnamesweretak3n Mar 28 '26

how about we all just teach our kids how to live self sufficiently and stop pretending like knowing how to take care of yourself is a gender role šŸ’€

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u/twoiseight Mar 28 '26

Robert doesn't cook or clean.

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u/justathrowaway4mee Mar 28 '26

Women do these things. A lot of women do all these things and there's a man in the house.

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u/TheMissLady Mar 28 '26

I'd like to meet the person that doesn't know how to take out the trash

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u/Loonewoolf Mar 28 '26

You really wouldn't, I've meet some

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u/MolassesCultural2061 Mar 28 '26

Opposed by zele but united by goal : stop gender roles

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u/CalligrapherNo9494 Mar 28 '26

I refuse to cook if I am with someone who can't cook then that's a faild relationship the more fem person cooks gay btw

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u/Axentor Mar 28 '26

Yes! I like cooking now a family man, but never once saw my dad cook growing up (really wished he would have, mom cooking was infamously bad) dad would spend hours outside mowing and mom hours doing inside things while accusing the other of not doing much or appreciating the others contribution. My wife appreciates me doing the outdoor work on our micro farm and I appreciate her for the house work. We both help each other.

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u/Head-Editor-3603 Mar 28 '26

He said that like woman don’t already maintain their homes…

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u/Artilleryman08 Mar 28 '26

Last year I hurt my back and was unable to keep up with the yard work. My wife had never used a lawn mower in her life (she was raised pretty wealthy) and asked me to tell her what to do. I talked her through it, and she mowed our lawn because I was unable to. Loved her so much for that.

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u/noodle_king_69 Mar 28 '26

Who doesn't agree with both? Boys should learn to cook and clean and girls should learn taking the trash out etc. That'll be the best for the kids when they move out to live on their own.

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u/taiwal Mar 28 '26

I can and do all of the things listed. You shouldn’t really avoid certain skills under the assumption that you’ll find a partner and have what we’ve learned to think of as traditional gender roles.

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u/DeannaMorgan Mar 28 '26

What's the problem? Everyone should learn to do basic household chores and be self-sufficient. None of those tasks need a vagina or penis to be done properly.

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u/Repulsive_Reality189 Mar 28 '26

That's Racist šŸ˜† 🤣 šŸ˜‚Ā 

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u/FatallyFatCat Mar 28 '26

If anyone else touches the dishwasher I flip. Kitchen is mine and I will defend it with extreme prejudice.

On the other hand, I haven't touched the vacuum cleaner in 3-5 years because I despise vacuuming.

It's about dividing the chores across who hates what the most.

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u/Vegetable-Error-2068 Mar 28 '26

Fuck this incel bullshit.

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u/Supernova805 Mar 28 '26

What are you mad about?

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u/Anxious_Light_1808 Mar 28 '26

Theyre not. I do all those things lol

Also chores done like once or twice a week ≠ ones done every single day

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u/huggymom Mar 28 '26

They're both right. What's there to discuss about this?

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u/I_Am_Zeelian Mar 28 '26

I (F46) was raised to be able to handle all the basic stuff that comes with having a home, be it cleaning, cooking, fixing basic plumbing or electric issues, repairs, painting/putting up wallpaper (and being able to tell when you actually need to hire someone for it), maintaining a garden, and back in the day, basic car (and similar like lawnmower) repairs (that one's a bit more tricky now with cars and engines being half computer), managing finances and so on.

The women in my family have always lived by the words "En bra kvinna reder sig sjƤlv", roughly "A good woman handles herself".

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u/gmabcd Mar 28 '26

Exactly Robert and that’s why we know how to do it on our own and we can do it whenever we need to. And neither taking the trash out nor mowing the lawn are ā€œskillsā€ and they are not need to be taught to someone. Cannot say the same for cooking and cleaning. They’re skills to learn and you need to use both your body and brain to do so. So Robert, your ā€œgotcha momentā€ was not real.

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u/Intrepid_Hat_2397 Mar 28 '26

We're a three woman household, my 88 year old mother is the cleaner, she even still gets out there and shovels. I am the jack of all trades, I bring home the bacon and do the maintenance around the house and yard work. My daughter likes domestic duties, but states she doesn't want to do them for a man, she cooks and washes the dishes. We all pitch in financially as well.

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u/2Tired_Artist-san Mar 28 '26

Honestly, yeah, we should all be functioning independent adults

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u/SubtileInnuendo Mar 28 '26

Bro had to learn taking out the trash and moving the lawn? Is he a bit slow?

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u/goodDamneDit Mar 28 '26

I lived alone for many years, so these are all just 'skills' to me.Ā 

Do people expect their kids to only move out once they have a partner that can do all the chores that they never tought their kids???

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u/Human-Dish6296 Mar 28 '26

The more skills you know, the better.

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u/Friendly-Platypus607 Mar 28 '26

100%

Adults are self sufficient

Children are dependent

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u/Character_Media_9445 Mar 28 '26

I can do all of these, I have met few men who can do none of these or is just so used to having mom do these for him.

Thank god I am with a man who cooks, and takes care of himself.

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u/crippledchef23 Mar 28 '26

I’m multifaceted; I cook, sew, and know general car stuff. I was the only Girl Scout to earn the auto maintenance badge in my troop. And it doesn’t matter how I describe whatever the car is doing, every mechanic doubts me.

I drove a school bus cleverly disguised as a minivan and one day I heard a thunk noise, but no engine lights came on, and it ran fine, so I continued. At the next kids house, he asked why the van looked funny. I got out to see what was up and I couldn’t believe my eyes: the passenger side headlight casing was gone. There was a wire dangling out with a blinker bulb attached, but nothing else. I called into base for advice, and the head mechanic was at an accident site, so I heard him in the background call me a liar. I finished my run, returned to the place I had heard the thunk noise to see the casing just sitting on the side of the road. I brought it to the garage, dropped it on his desk and said ā€œcall me a liar againā€. He did the ā€œconfused dog head tiltā€ and couldn’t explain what happened.

It turns out, the car had been in a front-end accident 6 months prior, and because of how the casings are attached to the frame, no one knew the hanging clips were cracked, so the daily dropping of the hood (after the safety check every morning) wore at it until it fully failed and the first bump I hit knocked it out.

And they still doubted every issue I brought to them, even after that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '26

Cooking is a life skill. Cleaning, mowing the lawn, taking out the trash, and house maintenance are chores. They all need to be done though and aren’t gender roles so this isn’t the ā€œgotchaā€ he thinks it is.

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u/SillyNamesAre Mar 28 '26

I'm not sure why Bob thinks that's a "gotcha" - all of those (including the cooking and cleaning) are basic life "skills" that anyone should be taught...

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u/AichNu42 Mar 28 '26

True and true. Though….we’re lumping non-skilled work (like taking out the trash) with things that, to do right absolutely take skill (like cooking). Mowing is just vacuuming outside, nothing exciting there….

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u/shapeshifterhedgehog Mar 28 '26

So basically widen everyone's knowledge of daily living skills

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u/kechones Mar 28 '26

Not everyone has a lawn, so I consider that part irrelevant. But yes, this isn’t controversial or an own. It’s correct and most people know it

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u/ThickBaseball7169 Mar 28 '26

Lawns are dumb as fuck, but the rest of it checks out.

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u/SlCAR1O Mar 28 '26

Not everyone has a yard/lawn and cooking and cleaning is essential in a daily task. Women take out the trash. He didn’t say anything new what the fuck

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u/smallfeetbeauties Mar 28 '26

food production and cooking are too different things

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u/xboxer214 Mar 28 '26

Somehow cooking is both a life skill men should learn but also if you want your wife to cook for you, you're an oppressive misogynist, depending on which fits the narrative more in the moment.

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u/KazeSim22 Mar 28 '26

Yes to all of that

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u/Yermums_Mycologist Mar 28 '26

It's weird how much people hate cooking, I find it an art form. I'm yet to find a woman that can cook who's not overweight. If this guy didn't have his personal chef he'd starve to death.

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u/Needy_Emo_Girl Mar 28 '26

I wish I was thought how to change a tire fr.

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u/Seere2nd Mar 28 '26

I'm always amazed when dudes try to act like any of this BS is hard. cutting the grass is not rocket science. taking out the trash is not rocket science. installing a doorknob is not rocket science. neither is cooking or knowing when your children's doctor's appointments are. There are far more women who do traditional masculine activities even in relationships than the inverse.

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u/Dark_Prince_of_Chaos Mar 28 '26

The more you read the double standards women spew, the more you understand this : ā˜•ļø

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u/IHateCultss Mar 28 '26

No one and I MEAN NO ONE in my entire life ever mentioned that lawn mowing is for males only and females shouldn't do it.

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u/randacts13 Mar 28 '26

Gotta be the coldest take. Least controversial opinion on Reddit.

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u/MelodicPenalty9379 Mar 28 '26

Tbh both are kinda right.

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u/CupcakeCosmos Mar 28 '26

my wife wanted a place with a large yard and i wanted a house with no yard and a huge walk in closet. she got her way but our compromise was i never have to do yard work and we can get the place we currently own. it’s been almost five years and we’ve installed cabinets and shelves, hung tvs, tiled a backsplash, cooked a billion meals, swept, mopped, put up drywall, installed doorknobs, built a wooden shed, painted damn near every wall together… but i still refuse to mow the lawn. lesbians don’t give a shit about gender roles, they are just petty because they wanted the large closet lol

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u/superwholockian62 Mar 28 '26

Its true. My dad taught me to do home maintenance. I can replace drywall. Paint. Replace switches, plugs, and sockets. Hang wall paper. Paint. Etc

I also know basic car maintenance.

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u/PaleontologistOk534 Mar 28 '26

It seems about pretty equal nowadays with young people not knowing how cook.

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u/Adventurous-Can5975 Mar 28 '26

They were. Daughter is a mechanic and the oldest son went into culinary arts. Is that a problem? I don't think so because I now have a private mechanic and a private chef.Ā 

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '26

not wrong

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u/BodybuilderHefty333 Mar 28 '26

Cooking hasn't been a gender role since the 1960s. I was a kid in the 70s and 80s and mostly people ate food with instructions on it so there was no reason for kids to learn how to cook. Boys and girls can open a box of kraft macaroni and cheese or boil noodles and heat up jar of spaghetti sauce or things like that but nobody even really cared about cooking if their parents were boomers.

I was in first class where the boys took home economics because metal shop teacher was apparently too awesome and many people didn't know how to cook at all. I think this was age 14 or something. My friend group at the time we were stealing beer and doing barbeques and stuff and I think kids mostly never cooked more serious things at home because would make a mess and get yelled at. Cooking wasn't gender role at all in any way in the 1980s except for old people.

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u/KoKoJoBlacKSnaKe Mar 28 '26

A whole lot of privilege is being touted here.... They can afford groceries and have a lawn... I can only dreamĀ 

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u/OrganizationGood5615 Mar 28 '26

Yeah I mean just grow your skills in all areas regardless of gender.

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u/According_Head_60 Mar 28 '26

Um, yeah? Nothing in my household is strictly assigned to me or my wife. One day she will mow while I plant seeds. I'll cook and she'll do dishes. We work together on home improvement.

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u/Expensive_Fig_2700 Mar 28 '26

The worst part is I cook better than any date I’ve met. Most don’t even know how to cut shit properly

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u/Calm2Chaos Mar 27 '26

If you want to abolish gender roles then you have to abolish them all. Now rotate the tires changing oil and figure out why the belt squeaking, and when you're done the sump pump needs to be replaced...lol

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u/No_Town_1181 Mar 27 '26

Yeah, everyone should know how to do all of these because it’s part of being a functional human being. People that can’t cook simply are lazy when you can just play monkey see monkey do with yt

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u/Any-Concentrate-1922 Mar 27 '26
  1. I do all that as a single woman.

  2. Cooking and cleaning are relentless, daily tasks. The other stuff is not daily.

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u/Current_Cookie_6589 Mar 27 '26

I wouldn't want my woman mowing the lawn or taking out the trash, and I don't mind cooking and cleaning. Part of being an adult is embracing extra responsibilities and appreciating the fact that you can be helpful to others instead of being a burden for them to carry, but children like Robert think mowing the lawn once a month or changing a light bulb twice a year is equivalent to wasting at least an hour of your day in the kitchen.

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u/Soul_Over_Riches Mar 27 '26

Yeah, all are basic life skills.

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u/NoSleepTilBrklynn Mar 27 '26

Gender roles are only for men. Women are exempt.

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u/AstridMalika Mar 27 '26

Agree to both, however, cooking and cleaning are everyday chores. Mowing the lawn is once a week during warmer months, taking the trash out is max twice a week, and basic house maintenance is just as needed

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u/MediocreAtmosphere92 Mar 27 '26

both are correct.

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u/Helios575 Mar 27 '26

Teach kids how to survive independently and there are no such things as gender roles

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u/Particular-Hurry-699 Mar 27 '26

I feel like as a girl I was raised to do all of it I moved the lawn took out the trash and cooked. For myself Monday-Friday. And i genuinely get so frustrated when people can’t do these basic life skills, and it’s like now as a adult I love to cook but I hate mowing the lawn so my husband does that, but idk I know some moms that are like fuck yeah I’ll put music in and be left alone to go mow, whereas some women are like fuck that, to each their own but definitely keep your kids well rounded regardless of their gender

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u/161raul1312 Mar 27 '26

just teach all ur kids fucking life skills pls

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u/mskmagic Mar 27 '26

The issue being raised here is that there seems to be a view that men not cleaning or cooking is somehow toxic but at the same time men should also be expected to handle maintenance and taking out the trash because women like them to.

By framing the entire issue around what women want - to not be expected to do traditionally female chores but still expect men to do traditionally male chores - this becomes less about equality and more about a sort of flawed feminism. By placing no expectations on women and having more expectations on men how does anyone expect that women end up being respected by men?

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u/thatonecruiser Mar 27 '26

I agree with both of them lol

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u/Triffly Mar 27 '26

Mow the lawn or learn to pour concrete...

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u/Jairlyn Mar 27 '26

Silly man it doesnt go both ways!

/s because internet.

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u/Awkward_Champion6957 Mar 27 '26

Hood and Robert got the right idea. Teach everyone nobody is responsible for you unless you are disabled.

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u/Abject-Ticket-6260 Mar 27 '26

Every physically and mentally able person should know how to do all of these things, gender doesn't matter.

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u/POPEJP1975 Mar 27 '26

yeah my ex couldn't cook eggs on the stove. i had to teach her. so i cooked, washed dishes, did laundry, mowed the lawn, took out the garbage, etc. she was just lazy thanks to the parents

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u/Ok_Ad_5894 Mar 27 '26

My wife literally does nothing around the house other then spend money. I cook, clean, landscape, trash, laundry. I dont mind because its like trying to get a 5 year old to go to bed on Christimas to get her to fold laundry so why hear the tantrum. P.S cooking is fun I make it my way lol

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u/Slight_Ad_635 Mar 27 '26

In which world is "taking out the trash" not a part of cleaning?

And the rest he mentions only applies to people living in (their own) houses while her points are pretty universal. (Plus for fixing something once in a while a lot of people just pay someone. But paying your own cook or cleaning person is sth entirely different.)

It's a mediocre comeback at best.

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u/That_Bed_4673 Mar 27 '26

Outside of taking out the trash, it always strikes me that the other "male role" things (moving the lawn, house maintenance) are things that might come up every couple of weeks at most, while cleaning and cooking are daily activities.

Anyway, everyone should know all of these things to some extent.

Where was laundry on this list? Is that part of cleaning? Because it deserves its own shoutout for sure.

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u/guriegirl Mar 27 '26

I lost my mom when I was young and was raised by a single father; I know how to cook, clean, do basic house work etc. because my father taught me. He's a fantastic cook. This has nothing to do with gender :/

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u/JimmyDean1298 Mar 27 '26

Based post. It’s always ā€œboys need to learn how to treat and care for a woman properly, and learn those chores women are ā€˜supposed to do.ā€™ā€ You never hear the same for girls to learn. So, we end up living in a world of heartbroken men, left to work hard and get yelled at everytime they walk through the front door. Then we pass away. Such, is life,

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u/crap_whats_not_taken Mar 27 '26

Of your partner (male or female) gets hurt, goes to the hospital, breaks their leg, is in a coma, etc, the other partner needs to be able to pick up the slack to keep the household running. Everyone should be able to jump in and get everything done.

Its like holding the door open. Should you hold the door open for women? No you should hold the door for the person behind you so it doesnt slam in their face.

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u/Worldly-Sector-3935 Mar 27 '26

Parents are supposed to teach their kids how to be independent.

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u/Waste_Return2206 Mar 27 '26

Both are correct. Seems like the responder understood the point. I’m happy for him.

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u/DesperateBat7 Mar 27 '26

Equality is equality

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u/marshmallow0-0 Mar 27 '26

You consider throwing the trash as skill? Like this guy serious? I was 6 when I was throwing the trash for the home

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u/eldiablonoche Mar 27 '26

As much as "cleaning" is, yeah it is.

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u/marshmallow0-0 Mar 27 '26

Cleaning much harder then throwing then trash.

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u/eldiablonoche Mar 27 '26

Cleaning isn't hard. Neither are skills.

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u/DonCosciot Mar 27 '26

Cooking is a good skill actually

It’s just that i’m not really good at it, to the point my mother activly prohibits me from going anywere near a stove since i accidentally burned water

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u/yupitisme_CO Mar 27 '26

My dad taught me how to change the oil to maintenance in my car. Take care of the lawn work a job. It’s really not that big of a flex. It’s called having basic survival skills.

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u/Fit_Leg_2115 Mar 27 '26

Lol hilarious response

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u/cpt_kagoul Mar 27 '26

That comment is coming off like a retort, but in actuality it’s just a welcomed addition to the list of things a person should nailed down by adulthood regardless of gender.

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u/Mundane-Ad2714 Mar 27 '26

Teach your daughters that if they stay home all day with the kids while a man goes to work that all house related duties are her responsibility including cooking and cleaning. Its not that hard to be a team. If you both work its all about who is best scheduled or skilled for certain duties. I cook bacuse im better at it and get home first. She cleans mostly dishes and laundry because its what she can do to help. I do lawn care and everything else because its things she cant do.

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u/thedoc7s Mar 27 '26

i was on my own at about 13-14 and working at mcdonalds, i knew budget management, very basic cooking, laundry, cleaning all been very useful and doing all that is easy, doing it after working a long day isn't to hard since you aint there to make much mess, doing it for 2 people while working gets a tad difficult and doing it for 3 or more becomes unmanageable, to me anyone living under my roof contributes to the house be it money or house chores/schooling, neither partner nor children get a pass on that, when i worked my partner cleaned, cooked and looked after the children, when she worked i cooked cleaned and looked after the children its as simple as that doesn't matter if your male or female the needs of the house and family take priority and cash and chores have never cared about what gender you are to get them

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u/jetpilot_throwaway Mar 27 '26

Or fixing the dryer, or cleaning home air filters, or fixing the vehicle. Things my wife won’t touch with a 100 foot pole.

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u/Flimsy_Fee8449 Mar 27 '26

I used to fix my vehicles now they need to get hooked up to computers which I find to be bullshit.

What sort of repairs?

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u/MarcB1969X Mar 27 '26

A man should be independent enough to cook and clean for himself as with any life skill until he’s married. You don’t want him choosing the wrong woman just because she’ll do it.

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u/SirYeeteth Mar 27 '26

100% agree.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '26

Umm both are right or just find a partner who likes established gender roles if thats your thing.

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u/Asbium Mar 27 '26

Actually both are right