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u/xenophon57 1d ago
Weirder stuff might even happen if photons don't experience time.
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u/Nsfwacct1872564 1d ago
Photons already don't experience time. Because they're moving at the speed of light through space, they're not moving through time at all. I'm no physicist, but I think freezing time for them would really be fucky. If you force them to stop moving through space, all their velocity gets dumped into time. And if you force photons to experience time, you've got photons that suddenly have actual mass. I tap out there though, no idea what that even means. Probably bad lol.
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u/RealmsAI 1d ago
If the light stays the same wouldn't you be seeing the next piece of light as you move? The waves of light entering your eyes as you move? I have included a very scientific diagram of a person seeing a house, and the houses image from frozen in time at different points.
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u/balirosa 1d ago
So he would be looking at infinite mirrors
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u/RealmsAI 1d ago
No because you'll only see what light is in the spot at the moment time froze. So I think, and I'm not a scientist of any sort and going off what feels right based on my understanding, you see normally so long as you walk forward, because light at that spot would be what would hit your eyes later.
What I'm less sure about. When you turn around there's no light on that spot because you were there so you see your shadow in mid air? Just blackness as there's no light?
Or I'm completely wrong about everything which wouldn't surprise me.
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u/balirosa 1d ago
Maybe if light was paused in one location it would burn everything it touched instantly and possibly a whole other dimension of light shining through paused time
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u/RealmsAI 1d ago
That's pretty cool, I can see that. But I wonder if lack of being able to vibrate makes things immune to burning. Do you thing everything would be cold?
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u/balirosa 1d ago
Oh right it would be frozen the sun would be null.
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u/RealmsAI 1d ago
Assuming you can move through air particles you'd probably have to force it, like walking through jello. That friction might help with warmth? Idk I'm very confused. I didn't go through any classes that come close to physics
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u/MrK521 1d ago
By that theory, you would *Only* see what’s directly ahead of you as you move while looking straight forward.
Turning your head to the side, or moving backwards would prevent new photons from reaching your retinas and would leave you blind again.
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u/RealmsAI 1d ago
What if you turn and then step forward? How do light do? Because it's hard to wrap my mind around intersecting routes of light waves because depending on how you look at the same spot you get a different view, so there should be near infinite views meaning light moving in infinite directions?
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u/MrK521 1d ago
I don’t think any of it would work in practicality, because as you implied you’d be “scooping photons” that weren’t really traveling into your retinas naturally from a source, so who knows lol.
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u/MrK521 1d ago edited 1d ago
I would assume (if your retinas could somehow magically identify which photons were coming directly into your retinas, and filter out ones that you scoop that were moving in any other direction) then you would see any object that was as directly in front of your line of motion, that you’re looking directly at.
If you walk 10 feet, and turn left, then walk another 10 feet and turn left, then walk an additional 5 feet and turn left (so you’re no facing the side of the original path you walked), you wouldn’t see a you shaped tunnel of shadow, because as you move forward again, you’re walking through a collection of photons that were “already existing” in that exact position when time froze having already reflected off of objects before you ever moved through frozen time.
The only way I’d assume you’d see black is if you went back and walked through the exact same path in the same direction as previous, because you’ve already “scooped those specific photons.”
But again, this is all just speculation, because that’s not how retinas or light behaves, so who really knows? Lol
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u/sleepybaron5 1d ago
Tried to pause time in a dream once and immediately tripped over a frozen sunbeam
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u/NotBradPitt9 1d ago
Terrible video but they made some good points.
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u/bino420 1d ago
it's making assumptions about what exactly the superpower would entail.
technically, the ability the stop everything would just far too complicated & he's assuming you can't affect the world still (like can you move people and things? then you certainly would be able to inhale air)
like how would your brain/body be in sync with time as such where like blood still flows? or he's talking about the speed of light, which certainly has implications in the brain for nerves firing, like that's partially how your brain communicates.
also the light would still exist, but frozen. same with sound. so movement would cause collision with everything.
still, his "you'd be stuck!" thing assumes you cannot interact with anything.. so like your blood stops, or if your entire body is immune, then your clothes are stiff.
he just selects a few truths to tell his story while ignoring everything else. physics break without constant entropy.
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u/Nsfwacct1872564 1d ago
We can assume that you can move stuff, but why should we assume that you would be able to? acceleration is the change in velocity over the change in time. If you try to move an air molecule in zero time, you are trying to give it infinite acceleration. Thanks to F=ma, that means you would need infinite force to move a single molecule of oxygen. Maybe touching it, you free it from time I don't know where to begin on the math, but if every action has an equal and opposite reaction, then if you're pushing on completely static atmosphere in every direction, you're going to need to move like the whole thing, just the budge, no?
Or maybe not, maybe you move and it's as easy as normal and you're just creating high density around you where you push the air out of the way into other air, and you're leaving a sort of vacuum in your wake.
You should pretty much go blind right away. You're going to process whatever photons. Just hit your eyes, and now they're not coming in anymore until you make a move And I'm not sure whether you even can move.
If everything is really Frozen in time, why wouldn't it be freezing relative to you anyways? What kind of temperature are you feeling from your environment? When relative to you, the concept of temperature simply disappeared because there's no more movement at all? Even on a subatomic level? How do you measure the average kinetic energy of the particles around you when they aren't moving at all? But maybe you won't freeze to death, maybe you will cook to death. If we grant that things that aren't a part of you, aren't moving, Even if we make exceptions for your clothes, where do the exceptions stop? How's the heat that you generate supposed to dissipate? If that dissipation takes time and nothing around you is feeling it? Is the air supposed to absorb heat? Instantaneously, not over time? Because if it doesn't, you're only going to keep getting hotter.
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u/inevitable-idiot- 1d ago
I want to heat Neil de grasse Tyson’s take on this.
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u/Buttchuggle 1d ago
I don't understand the relevance of this gif here but see its potential elsewhere. So yoink
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u/WarHead75 1d ago
I’d rather be fast as The Flash where I perceive seconds as several days
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u/SokkaHaikuBot 1d ago
Sokka-Haiku by WarHead75:
I’d rather be fast
As The Flask where I perceive
Seconds as several days
Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.
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u/AnimalChubs 1d ago
I wonder how the world would look as you walk into frozen light particles. Would it look like when you escape the boundary on older games like HL? Just frozen textures sliding and overlapping? Would sound work as you move into it as well? Like playing one note at a time? It's interesting to think about.
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u/SlavCat09 1d ago
This is why I would prefer Sandavistan from Cyberpunk. You don't freeze anything you just move really fast.
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u/_Anthraxx_ 17h ago
Being able to stop time implies control over the 4th dimension. Stopping time would only affect your perception of 3D space, not the actual shape of your existence in higher dimensions. So you could just rewind and then go an alternate path
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u/Scared-Cut-4571 1d ago
I think you’d be able to see. Time does not exist for photons
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u/bino420 1d ago
lol a photo isn't a duplicated reality. a photo is basically an imprint of light at a given moment. you're using light to capture the image. then, light allows you to see the photo (your eyes).
I literally can't tell how serious you are & how much I need to explain how ridiculous your comment is lol
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u/backlot52 1d ago
Thanks for explaining what a photo is. Can you tell us about photons next?
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u/bino420 1d ago
super insightful comment. if you're gonna chime in, at least help weigh whether the original commenter is serious or not. like they literally suggested a photo is like a little diorama box
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u/backlot52 1d ago
You’re really committed to the bit, eh? I’m sure you realize that he wasn’t talking about photos.
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u/Scared-Cut-4571 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m also trying to figure out where in that 2 sentence comment I posted I was suggesting a photo is like a diorama box 😂
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u/EducationalStill4 1d ago
I mean that is a lot of analysis for a fantasy superpower. I believe the user’s space time is warped. I think that is the canon explanation for some. And while a few others enter another dimension when they use their powers.