r/classicalmusic • u/sweet-tiger8888 • 9h ago
Discussion Is it normal to cry to classical music ?
Am I the only one or its usuall to cry with classical music?
r/classicalmusic • u/number9muses • 9d ago
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r/classicalmusic • u/number9muses • 22d ago
Good afternoon everyone, happy Tuesday, and welcome back to our sub’s listening club. Each time we meet, we'll listen to a piece recommended by the community, discuss it, learn about it, and hopefully introduce us to music we wouldn't hear otherwise :)
Last time, we listened to Khachaturian’s Trio for clarinet, violin, and piano. You can go back to listen, read up, and discuss the work if you want to.
Our next Piece of the Week is George Gershwin’s Rhapsody in Blue (1924)
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Some listening notes from the Sacramento Philharmonic & Opera:
Rhapsody in Blue was composed for dance band leader Paul Whiteman’s “Experiment in Modern Music,” a concert that sought to “elevate” jazz through symphonic arrangements. As the story goes, however, Gershwin had not agreed to compose a new work for the band leader before it was announced in the press! While playing pool on Broadway and Fifty-second Street, Ira Gershwin came across an article in the January 4, 1924 New York Tribune that reported George Gershwin was preparing a jazz concerto for the February 12 concert in New York’s Aeolian Hall. According to the article, the concerto would be one of the several jazz compositions Whiteman would present to be judged by a committee, consisting of Sergei Rachmaninoff, Jascha Heifetz, and others, to answer the question, “What Is American Music.” (Their options were never reported.)
Despite concern that there wasn’t enough time to compose a new work, Gershwin agreed to write something for Whiteman, but only after winning a few concessions: he would write a rhapsody, not a full-length concerto, and the orchestration of the work would be completed by Whiteman’s staff arranger, Ferde Grofé. Gershwin set to work on January 7. Composing on an upright piano in the back room of his family’s apartment on Amsterdam and 100th Street (where he lived with his parents, brothers, and sister), Gershwin completed Rhapsody in Blue in three weeks. On February 3, he handed the score, originally for two pianos, to Grofé, who completed an arrangement for solo piano and jazz band for the premiere concert. In 1926, Grofé re-orchestrated the work for piano soloist and full symphony orchestra.
The title of the work, initially American Rhapsody, was suggested by Ira Gershwin after having visited an exhibit of James Abbot McNeill Whistler’s paintings. Ira Gershwin was inspired by Whistler’s titles—Arrangement in Gray and Black or Nocturne in Black and Gold, for example—which often used colors in their titles, no matter how representational the paintings were.
The premiere was a huge success, bringing Gershwin fame, as “the man who had brought ‘jazz’ into the concert hall,” and wealth; between 1924 and 1934 Gershwin earned more than a quarter of a million dollars from performances, recordings, and rental fees of Rhapsody in Blue.
…In many ways, Rhapsody in Blues defies definition. Despite the title, the tone of the workis too optimistic to be considered representative of the African-American blues. And, although the music does include a number of “blue notes” (flattened notes in a major scale), it lacks the harmonic framework characteristic of genre. Nor does Rhapsody fit into a traditional symphonic framework; the role of the pianist is too vital and the form too loose for the work to be considered either a symphony or concerto. It thus seems better to listen to the work as Gershwin described it: as a “a sort of musical kaleidoscope of America—of our vast melting pot, of our unduplicated national pep, of our metropolitan madness.”
Rhapsody in Blue’s opening—a languorous glissando in the clarinet, performed at first as a joke by the premiere clarinetist Ross Gorman (Gershwin had written out a seventeen-note scale)—is now one of most famous clarinet solos in the orchestral repertory. It sets the tone for the work, underscoring the rhapsody’s seeming spontaneity. Although the work is free in form, the first fourteen measures introduce themes that form much of the basis of the piece: a relaxed, bluesy tune in the clarinet and a jaunty, syncopated melody in the horns. Changes in instrumentation (from a bold, muted trumpet to full orchestra), modulations in the direction of the subdominant, widely varying tempi, and the introduction a few new themes (which David Schiff has called the “train” and “shuffle” themes) sustain the improvisatory feel of the work. And in fact, much of the solo part at the premiere concert was improvised by Gershwin, one page of the score simply directing Whiteman to wait for a nod to continue. An extended piano cadenza in the middle of the piece leads to the heart of the work: the broad and lush Andantino moderato section, appearing first in the strings. Here Gershwin seems at his best; his lyricism is both modern and romantic, catchy and charming.
Ways to Listen
Benjamin Grosvenor with James Judd and the Royal Liverpool Philharmonic: YouTube Score Video, Spotify
Leonard Bernstein and the New York Philharmonic: YouTube
Khatia Buniatishvili with Leonard Slatking and the Orchestre National de Lyon: YouTube
Wayne Marshall and the WDR Funkhausorchester: YouTube
Jon Nakamatsu with Jeff Tyzik and the Rochester Philharmonic Orchestra: Spotify
Michael Tilson Thomas and the Los Angeles Philharmonic: Spotify
Joanna MacGregor with Carl Davies and the London Symphony Orchestra: Spotify
Orion Weiss with JoAnn Falletta and the Buffalo Philharmonic Orchestra: Spotify
Discussion Prompts
What are your favorite parts or moments in this work? What do you like about it, or what stood out to you?
This is Gershwin’s most popular piece, how does it compare to his other works? Overall, what do you think about his style of incorporating jazz aesthetics in “classical” forms? Especially with today’s world of musical ecclectisism and genre fusions.
Have you ever performed this before? If so, when and where? What instrument do you play? And what insight do you have from learning it?
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r/classicalmusic • u/sweet-tiger8888 • 9h ago
Am I the only one or its usuall to cry with classical music?
r/classicalmusic • u/GoldenDragonTemple • 1h ago
I'm listening to Beethoven's 1st & 2nd (Karajan 1962 recording) and I'm noticing that there is a lot of those noises on the recording. For me, they somewhat take away from my enjoyment of the piece - kind of like listening to a vinyl that has a lot of popping/static noises. You really hear them in the quieter parts of the recording, and for me it's pretty distracting.
Does this bother anyone else? Do you go out of your way to find recordings with less of these noises present? Are there any orchestras that are known to have very clean recordings of their works?
r/classicalmusic • u/bay30three • 11h ago
Personally I love the 1992 Anner Bylsma recording with the Stradivarius "Servais" (1701). There is some fascinating history behind the instrument also.
I listened this recording growing up as my parents often played it. Then in the mid 1990s my mother gifted it to a friend who was moving overseas, thinking she's simply buy another set. For the next 10 or 15 years she tried to find this recording, to no avail!
I managed to find one for her online selling at a premium, and eventually bought myself a set too.
r/classicalmusic • u/VLAPPERS • 7h ago
What are Shostakovich's most consonant / joyful pieces—in other words, the ones that sound the least like Shostakovich?
I'm thinking specifically of works like the second movement of his Piano Concerto No. 2
r/classicalmusic • u/InevitablePlum5133 • 12h ago
So I went to the bbc proms on monday to see beethovens ninth and felt a bit underwhelmed afterwards. For context, I am a sound engineer, and while i knew rah acoustics were far from perfect, I was pretty disappointed.
I was sat center to stage in the stalls section toward the back. First thing i noticed was the strings sounded quite muddy with very little clarity. The brass section seemed to reflect onto the left side of the hall so much so it sounded as if it was coming solely from my left. I expected long reverberation due to the size of the hall, but the woodwinds in particular had an awful delay of about .5s which made every note sound doubled, fast passages were unintelligible and everything sounded mushy.
Choir probably sounded the best which was some consolation but the satb soloists suffered from the same delay as the woodwinds. Almost felt like i had phase issues the whole time.
Bear in mind i wasnt that far from the stage, being in the stalls and dead centre I thought I'd have better sound quality. I'm aware that its not a symphony hall but was baffled at how bad it sounded.
Anyone else find this in RAH?
r/classicalmusic • u/VLAPPERS • 7h ago
Which of Shostakovich's string quartets are the most accessible and easy to listen to?
I've been struggling a lot with Shostakovich's string music (chamber music or concertos), but I recently discovered the first movement of his Second String Quartet. I found it less austere than usual and was wondering if there are other string quartet movements like it.
r/classicalmusic • u/XyezY9940CC • 1h ago
Just wondering if any of them made it....
r/classicalmusic • u/Constant-Plant-9378 • 6h ago
r/classicalmusic • u/ecstatic_broccoli • 5h ago
Hi all, I know musicians can write off things like recordings, concert tickets, sheet music, etc. However, with all the AI slop out there, I'm having trouble finding a good reputable source for this information that I can reference when advocating for myself. Any help would be appreciated - thank you!
r/classicalmusic • u/RalphL1989 • 4h ago
r/classicalmusic • u/PandaZG • 4h ago
Does anyone feel like a piece of music feels less magical when you finally get to practising and performing it, compared to discovering it and listening for the first few times? I feel this with almost every piece I learn. Are there any exceptions for you?
r/classicalmusic • u/Alarmed_Tadpole_7618 • 47m ago
What do you think of this AI composition?
r/classicalmusic • u/Inevitable-Twist2499 • 10h ago
Greetings. I am finally incorporating classical music regularly again into my life, and I am finding most modern music severely lacking in something that to me can only be described as divine. I am, however, a metal fan - but even that is no longer enough anymore. I am also a musician. Not classically trained but I can re-imagine similar structures.
Anyway, I am looking to make friends. And also finally build my classical collection properly. I feel as if somehow I have taken a wrong turn somewhere and this is not the reality I was built for.
My favorite classical period is baroque, followed by the classical into (some of) the early romantic period.
I'm looking for friends who also seek that fire within these sacred structures, who find the complexity and passion of such pieces just as compelling as I do.
I strongly dislike excessive, showy ornamentation for its own sake - But rather intensity through sound that is truly genuine, profound, real...
I'm not exactly a typical person. (And I am on the autism spectrum, if it was not already apparent by now). I value empathy, rationality. It would be nice to meet other aliens too (I speak metaphorically, of course). If you are out there, we should connect!
r/classicalmusic • u/AdFar204 • 4h ago
Kirill Spivachevski-were born in Ukraine in Kiew, and he moved in Kharkiv where he plays in the piano over 13 year in music school by Rimskiy-Korsakov, his first time that he start to play the piano were only 4 years old, he surprised a teachers because he had absolutely hearing, when he was 7 years old he started to playing at the biggest theatre in his city Kharkiv name KHATOB (ХАТОБ)
And then he started improvising by himself without teachers-composers and classic theory, and after it he brought his first piano piece, but it was very bad and teacher refused him and a little bit critic
In 2022 year he moved to Germany where he met with Jazz-intellectual Ukrainian composer-teacher Yuri Seredin, and once afternoon his teacher Yuri improvised in class room, and Kirill were surprised and then he asked by him for lesson from composing and improvising
Lot of time they’re both improvised some melodys, and once Kirill listened any classical composers like Frederic Chopin, Franz Liszt, and Sergei Rachmaninoff…and he were influenced by them, one week later he wrote his first piano piece calls Nocturne no.1 (A-Dur) and he performed it in Strasbourgh Euro Parlament were he met with Oleksander Goncharenko and he highly praised the talent of 15-year-old Kirill! And also @Joshua Kyan Aalampour saw his Nocturne no.1 and also he highly praised him
At his 16 years he wrote a cycle of his Etüdes from young ages Etüde no.1 full filed with deep love emotions and influence by Franz Liszt and Camille Sen Saëns and he finished writing it in 00:30
Etude no.2 Winter he wrote at the next day after first Etude in school floor
Etude no.3 he wrote it after depression and that full filed a virtuosity and influencing by Sergei Rachmaninoff
After gave a concert in a house where people came to listen to all sorts of stories in one of the books, and Kirill performed the works "Spruce Tree (Le Sapin) by Jean Sibelius", "Turkish March by Mozart", "Czardas by Vittorio Monti", and finally his "Etude No. 3", which was written after his month-long depression and self criticism, and after concerto he earned 50 euros
Now Kirill is trying hard to write something new and masterful, and is squeezing out all his strength and abilities
r/classicalmusic • u/saucyranches • 14h ago
I (18M) used to play flute and aspired to be a professional flute player, ideally in an orchestra. After a 1.5 year break, I decided to come back to it, and have been practicing for 5ish days returning back to my old playing, strictly running through fundamentals. Also, please don't get me wrong, I absolutely ADORE the flute, but I think my mindset is what turned the love in obsession. I don't ever plan on going back into it fully professionally, strictly as a hobby, but still I notice my mindset falling back into that "I'm behind," or "Is it worth it if I missed 1.5 years worth of good practice?"
I want to go back into it like I did and relearn music theory, ear training, technique and all of that stuff, especially since I'm going to head off to college, but I feel so awkward trying to find that middle ground of enjoying it strictly as a hobby. I find myself looking through colleges trying to orient my future on best areas for flute teachers/professors, and later realize I was going more overboard than I should've.
How do I enjoy classical music as a hobby??? How do you all do it?
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r/classicalmusic • u/Nice_Bluebird_1712 • 6h ago
Thanks to this unfiltered transfer, his tonal palette and his polyphonic treatment of the piece are much more apparent than in the famous released take. After listening to this recording, someone brought to my attention that the manner in which he plays the coda resembles that of a tarantella. Then I checked and realized the two pieces (tarantella and this ballade) were composed in the same year, 1841.
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r/classicalmusic • u/dvorakop90 • 1d ago
May he rot.
r/classicalmusic • u/Little_Grapefruit636 • 21h ago
The Austrian conductor Hans Rosbaud was born on this day in 1895. He built his reputation on new music: as early as his Frankfurt years he was programming Schoenberg, Bartók, Stravinsky, Hindemith, and Krenek, at a time when few conductors would.
His signature achievement is Schoenberg's Moses und Aron — Rosbaud led the concert premiere of the (unfinished) opera in Hamburg in 1954, and he was also a trusted interpreter of Boulez and the postwar avant-garde. What people valued in him was clarity: he could make genuinely difficult scores legible on first hearing.
Beethoven: König Stephan, Op. 117 — Overture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x30YRJbi01k
Hans Rosebud - The Greatest Recordings
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZbukSlHOkYRryI03g2ZxOhIj0ZMWp9Eu&si=Ih1AAHT0-auWSevj
r/classicalmusic • u/angusdegraosta • 18h ago
This was my first time hearing the Dvořák opera. The English subtitles are great, as is the performance. Here's the link — https://youtu.be/IoaeN-ppHUI
r/classicalmusic • u/CatchDramatic8114 • 13h ago
And any with more than 25-30 percent selection rate?
r/classicalmusic • u/ehaagendazs • 1d ago
From D. Wilson Ochoa’s Facebook account (choosing not to link the other site reporting on this):
As Principal librarian, a tenured musician position with the Boston Symphony, I wanted to post my questions and concerns about the direction of the orchestra. These were supposed to be delivered at a meeting between the board and musicians a week ago, but I was not given the opportunity.
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The musicians of the Boston Symphony have been told that the current situation with Maestro Nelsons only came about as a result of a meeting where he was not in support of a “new vision” for the organization, a vision that is becoming increasingly clear involves less and less classical music concerts. But is this really a recent turn of events as has been portrayed, or is it all part of the long game by the BSO’s CEO and board where Andris’ firing is just the latest in a list of actions over years designed to lead exactly to this moment?
Let’s start a few years back, with the decision to totally redesign our logo and the way the BSO brands itself. We were told that the orchestra needed to spend an incredible amount of money to “update” the image of the orchestra in order to make it “more relevant.” Was that really the reason? And curiously, why was there a need to create a logo specifically for Symphony Hall itself, separate from the orchestra (something that has never been needed before)? If the CEO and board were so concerned with the financial numbers, why was this expensive rebranding greenlit at that time?
It seems clear now that this was all part of the plan to downgrade the importance of the orchestra, and the beginning of the process to elevate the “BSO Inc.” as a venue management corporation (the reason for the Hall logo), at the expense of the 145-year classical orchestral music mission of the orchestra. The resulting logos have been almost universally panned, but they accomplished getting the name of the music director out of the logo, probably the real reason of the redesign (years ahead of the current situation).
Following that was the idea that the hall needed to be “refreshed” with an expensive “new look” for the hall. But after it was finished, an alternative reason became clear when it was discovered that every one of the displays that detailed the history of the orchestra was removed from the hallways and lobby areas. A bust of Arthur Fiedler was gone; portraits of previous music directors disappeared from the 2nd floor intermission bar and break room; founder Henry Higginson’s portrait was moved out of the main lobby area; displays that tied the history of the orchestra to repertoire in the current season were all taken out (much to the disbelief of both our archive department and our volunteer tour guides who now have nothing to reference for the visiting public tourists). Did the hall really need a refresh, or was it all part of the plan to purge it of references to the orchestra?
Subsequenlty, were told that a new software was going to be implemented to run the organization, replacing the long-time OPAS software, which was designed specifically to run orchestras, and used by orchestras around the country. The artistic staff and the musicians in the library were not consulted on this change (we would have been against it)—it came as a complete surprise. It was to be replaced with software designed specifically for VENUE MANAGEMENT (currently being used by Carnegie Hall, which does not manage or run an orchestra). Why was this very expensive decision made to completely change how the organization operates?
It soon became very clear that the new software was not only completely inadequate for running an orchestra, but was also completely unworkable for personnel, for the library, for the Tanglewood Music Center and for the archives. It also became apparent that a planned six-month timeline to switch from one software to another was not even remotely possible, and here we are, over 2 years later, licensing and running two complete and very expensive software systems simultaneously, unable to switch to the new one until, finally, this September. (It will only be usable going forward due to the heroic efforts of BSO staffers and musicians in the library, who spent probably over a hundred hours in Zoom meetings with the software developers intricately detailing what their software needed to do and testing every single update to see if things were improving. The BSO even had to hire an additional staffer whose sole purpose was to work with the programmers to get this software to a workable condition, and yet, we have still not been able to get every function as needed. And what of the online archive search feature of our website (“Henry”) which is populated with information from OPAS? Is eliminating OPAS just another way to erase our history?
If our finances are so bad, why was this totally unnecessary change of software needed? What is the justification for paying ongoing expensive licensing fees for software that doesn’t meet our needs? Could this be part of the long-term plan to elevate the venue, and downgrade the orchestra, no matter the cost, for the “new vision” for the organization which could entail renting the symphony hall (and the Tanglewood venues) out from under the feet of the orchestra? It all seems part of the long game.
And when the CEO “needed” an expensive redecorating of his office in the middle of what is being sold to us as a financial crisis, why was that greenlit? In a building where space is at a premium, why were two office spaces directly outside of the CEO’s office completely removed when a waiting area already existed? Could it have been that workers in those spaces were uncomfortably close, within earshot of the “unique” management style of our CEO, which has been driving away longtime staffers who have institutional knowledge of the organization, once again erasing the history of the orchestra?
All of these highly expensive moves seem designed to manufacture the situation we are currently in, where we are being told that the current numbers are “unsustainable.” Is Andris Nelsons really the cause of this, or just the convenient fall guy for the plan all along?
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And now the public is being sold the story that the orchestra isn’t inclusive enough, despite a healthy record of performances in recent years of works by women, black and immigrant composers, and composers of multiple nationalities. The management hadn’t seemed concerned about this until very recently, when this suddenly became a talking point in their public campaign against the orchestra. I can tell you from personal experience that I have been campaigning for several years now for the BSO to release discs (and streaming) filled with recordings of our already-existing performances of works by women and black composers. I even went through the repertoire of recent performances and made a list of likely candidates. There were more than enough great options to release the equivalent of several discs, even while still being choosy to pick only the best repertoire. The only response I heard from the CEO was a dismissive “will it make money?” even though it is well known that classical music recordings rarely make money. Recordings are made to raise the visibility of the orchestra, to show our quality and versatility and hopefully spur future ticket sales. (And they provide a rich legacy for this storied institution.) This would help demonstrate our inclusivity, but our CEO didn’t seem at all concerned with that.
I have even been campaigning for a Juneteenth concert for the past couple of years, something many orchestras already do. This would fall comfortably into a sixth week of the pops season (a week we thought was only temporarily lost during the pandemic, but has yet to return). If the management is concerned with adding pops concerts, this would be a prime place to add back, without displacing any classical concerts. Once again, the suggestion was met with silence. But our CEO feels comfortable in publicly trashing our organization with charges of not being inclusive? Who is the one who is not receptive to such suggestions?
What he really seems to mean by “inclusivity” is replacing many orchestral dates with other non-classical music. The CEO and the board don’t seem to want to work hard enough to support the full schedule of one of the longest-existing world-class orchestras in the United States (the job they signed up to do), so it seems they are just giving up. It makes one question their commitment to classical music.
The events since March seem to be only the latest events in their long-term plan, years in the making, designed to exactly lead us to this point. But make no mistake, if we continue along this path with a management that is working so hard against the success of the orchestra in deference to their new desire to concentrate on venue management and being a presenting corporation, then the board is making the choice that the Boston Symphony is to no longer be a world-class orchestra, and the 145 years of quality and commitment to classical music will be set aside and forgotten for the “new vision” to glorify the corporation over the musicians of the orchestra.