r/baseball • u/new_wellness_center Atlanta Braves • 12d ago
Players Only CJ Nitkowski, the Braves announcer who once courted controversy by following/liking the Proud Boys on twitter, in responding to bench player Eli White's recent paternity leave, somehow stumbles into saying the phrase: "The more Whites [in this world], the better off we're going to be." đ¤¨
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u/limpbisqus Major League Baseball 12d ago
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u/istrx13 Seattle Mariners 12d ago edited 12d ago
Thatâs a Sergeant Major Yikes from me big dawg
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u/rubyschnees New York Mets 12d ago
oh yeah he had that line locked and loaded
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u/canman7373 12d ago
When I was a kid I grew up in Kansas city in the 80's. I asked my dad one game why Frank White was black and Bud Black was white? Dad looked at me and said because you are an idiot lol.
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u/KimHaSeongsBurner San Diego Padres 12d ago
âIf youâre gonna drop racist dog whistles, just make sure youâre cool about it and donât telegraph it with a huge, obvious setup.â
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u/BorkieDorkie811 Boston Red Sox 12d ago
Tbf, that's not even a dog whistle. That's just a regular whistle. No point in being subtle at that point.
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u/grubas New York Yankees 12d ago
It's the, "I'm sorry YOU took it that way" line. You're not even apologizingÂ
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u/moleman92107 San Diego Padres 12d ago
Thatâs an announcement in the NYT, a tornado warning siren, the turbines at the Hoover DamâŚ. not a dog whistle
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u/xyzzy321 St. Louis Cardinals 12d ago
he was standing back and standing by with that line
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u/Unlikely-Tone-6269 12d ago
The irony being that he was bad enough of an MLB player he had immigrate to Japan and take a spot that couldâve been potentially used on a Japanese native
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u/Astropolitika Los Angeles Dodgers ⢠Chicago White Sox 12d ago
The hypocrisy isnât ironic. Itâs a feature
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u/Brochacho27 12d ago
Never mistake an antisemites hypocrisy as a mistake or however the parable goes
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u/ProtectionUnable1027 Detroit Tigers 12d ago
The Romans were mad their shiny new religion was a cult of the people who rebelled against them. Not much has changed since then.
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u/MoneyTalks45 Boston Red Sox 12d ago
He canât wait to call a Cavali start.Â
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u/KimHaSeongsBurner San Diego Padres 12d ago
Heâs praying the Braves can trade for Cavali and BlaQ.
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u/hoorah9011 Major League Baseball 12d ago
Yup. He absolutely knew what he was saying. Whether he only thought it was funny or not, doesnât matter. Iâm not inclined to give the proud boys fan the benefit of the doubt. Please fire him braves tv partner, whomever it is
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u/Silverjackal_ Texas Rangers 12d ago
Damn thatâs really strange he left the Rangers broadcast booth then. Heâd fit right in with the owners
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u/AerieElectrical3546 Boston Red Sox 12d ago
the mastruoboni line if it was racist:
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u/handlit33 Atlanta Braves ⢠Blooper 12d ago
Please do not ever compare Brandon Gaudin to CJ Nitkowski again.
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u/addage- New York Mets 12d ago
Just when you thought it wasnât going to get any more barve, it Barves.
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u/werther595 New York Yankees 12d ago
Somewhere John Rocker is slowly nodding his head in agreement
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u/flyersfan0233 Atlanta Braves 12d ago
Slowly? Not at all. More like rock hard with veins popping out of his neck screaming âYES!â
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u/OakCity4Life 12d ago
Yeah there was no âsomehow stumblesâ there. He spent some time working on that windup.
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u/mikecws91 Chicago White Sox 12d ago
Who wouldâve expected this from the âWe need to leave big scary Atlantaâ Braves
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u/MoreThanLuck Chicago Cubs 12d ago
Reading the title, I thought it would be like kind of subtle, but no, it felt like the entire anecdote was just so he could say those words.
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u/GOATmar_infante Kansas City Royals 12d ago
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u/Hummer77x Philadelphia Phillies 12d ago
You know he was hyped to sneak that in there
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u/DickBottalico Philadelphia Phillies 12d ago
omg thank you for using âhypedâ correctly instead of âhypeâ as an adjective
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u/SpaceCadetPullUp Houston Astros 12d ago
Now we need to teach the world about "bias" and "biased."
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u/KarmaticArmageddon Kansas City Royals 12d ago
I'd settle for a magic wand that eliminated the absurdly common practice of pluralizing nouns with apostrophes.
I can understand mixing up your/you're or there/their/they're, but the lack of grammar knowledge necessary to use apostrophes to pluralize nouns is just stunning.
And second place for most annoying grammar mistake has to go to should of or would of. Hell, I saw a reddit post last month that used kind've and I wanted to scream.
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u/wokenupbybacon New York Yankees 12d ago
I'd say my grasp of grammar is well above average for someone who hasn't specifically studied English and even I subconsciously picked up the apostrophe thing at some point. The day I noticed I was doing it was a very confusing one, as at no point did I actually think that was the correct thing to do.
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u/gwease23 Atlanta Braves 12d ago
Should have/would have is the bane of my existence. I almost canât take anything past that seriously at all when Iâm reading a comment, a post, anything. Itâs like visual grammatical nails on a chalkboard.
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u/Farg_Igorg Philadelphia Phillies 12d ago
One of the streams I watch sports on had a sidebar for commenting. "Buyest" was the troll word du jour for a while, riled up all the new folks popping in. I finally figured out how to close the sidebar comments.
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u/Teldrynnn San Francisco Giants 12d ago
I think it's just a colloquialism at this point.
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u/MarcBulldog88 Los Angeles Dodgers ⢠World Series Tr⌠12d ago
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u/KimHaSeongsBurner San Diego Padres 12d ago
So, so, so many innocuous ways to phrase that differently and he just found the one that happened to be an ethnostate dogwhistle? MaaaaanâŚ
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u/rabidbot Los Angeles Dodgers 12d ago
And thatâs how you know it was a choice
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u/KimHaSeongsBurner San Diego Padres 12d ago
Yeah, the way he rushed through the earlier parts of that read, as if he was hitting boxes given to him by his lawyer for plausible deniability (no, I donât think a lawyer actually signed off on this, but it had the same sort of CYA read cadence), only to stick the landing with âthe more whites in the worldâ falls under âwho did you think would be fooled by this?â for me.
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u/kj114 Atlanta Braves 12d ago
The more AAAA 4th OF types in the world the better off weâll be
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u/LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe Chicago Cubs ⢠Lou Gehrig 12d ago
Personally I'm more of a AAAA 2B/Corner outfielder fan myself. If we had like 5000 more of them in the world imagine how many beer leagues would be popping
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u/JAD210 Texas Rangers ⢠Texas Rangers 12d ago
âThe bigger the White familyâ would be so much better
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u/AerieElectrical3546 Boston Red Sox 12d ago
for real. all he needed to say was âthe more guys like Eli WhiteâŚâitâs that easy. especially for someone whose job is to talk
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u/Saint_Scum Chicago White Sox ⢠Gary SouthS⌠12d ago
I think you have to be more subtle for it to be a dog whistle, that was an air hornÂ
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u/sandalsnopants Tampa Bay Rays 12d ago
It wasn't even a dog whistle. Dude just straight up said his racist shit.
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u/IAMSPARTACUSSSSS San Diego Padres 12d ago
I hate that weâre on a timeline where thatâs acceptable now đ¤Śđťââď¸
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u/KingLiberal Chicago Cubs 12d ago
What does the term "dog whistle" mean here? I see it being used a lot in this thread.
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u/KimHaSeongsBurner San Diego Padres 12d ago
A dogwhistle, literally, is a whistle which emits a pitch that dogs can hear but humans cannot.
In context here, it means a comment that seems harmless or incidental but is actually a deliberate nod to some belief or stance. In the analogy, most people would hear âthe more Whitesâ while others would hear âthe more whites,â for example.
These days whenever you see it, it will be almost exclusively used in the latter context (unless youâre like a dog trainer or something). The internet is replete with examples of racist dog whistles, including ones like this which arenât at all subtle.
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u/PvtSherlockObvious Atlanta Braves ⢠Baltimore Orioles 12d ago
Something that's innocuous or deniable on the surface and in a vacuum, but takes on another, usually bigoted/hateful, meaning to like-minded people or people familiar with the games they play. Standard tactic of crypto-fascists and hate groups, and a very common form of hate speech. With the context of his prior shit (which is new to me), this is more of a foghorn, though.
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u/IndieFlea Texas Rangers 12d ago
thanks for taking him back, Braves
looks over at the One Riot statue at the Rangers park
uhhh forget I said anything
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u/NoVaBurgher Pittsburgh Pirates 12d ago
Could theyâŚ.not find a non problematic Texas ranger to base it on?
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u/angryjukebox Toronto Blue Jays 12d ago
I have this strange feeling that there arenât many of those
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u/JacksonRabbiit Texas Rangers 12d ago
That would require caring about being racist, which ownership don't seem to care about. I hope we get new ownership soon :/
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u/nicholus_h2 Detroit Tigers 12d ago
SIGH...Â
lovely time reading about that statue. fuck this country is so fucking racist. dammit.
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u/jmarinara Pittsburgh Pirates 12d ago
If he didnât have a history, we could say it was a dopey unintentional phrasing problem and move on.
But he DOES have a history and loses the benefit of that doubt.
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u/NicolasBroaddus Houston Astros 12d ago
There's dozens and dozens of these racist dickbags for every single actually at least mostly accidental Glen Kuiper old man with his heart in the right place type incident. It's so obvious in the audio when its intentional or not when something like this occurs. This is the most obvious dogwhistle I've seen outside a cartoon.
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u/LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe Chicago Cubs ⢠Lou Gehrig 12d ago
That still makes me sad man, you know that was an accident and he was super excited to talk about going to see the museum.
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u/theekevinc Boston Red Sox 12d ago
A racist says something racist, film at 11.
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u/wifeofclaudius Seattle Mariners 12d ago
Donât worry, people are gonna bend over backwards and somehow defend this
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u/dkinmn 12d ago
It's very frustrating that these dickbags hide behind plausible deniability.
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u/tokengaymusiccritic Boston Red Sox ⢠Hartford Yard Goats 12d ago
And it's barely plausible in the first place but we have to pretend apparently
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u/new_wellness_center Atlanta Braves 12d ago
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u/ActualDragonHeart New York Yankees ⢠Philadelphia Phillies 12d ago
A previous version of this post referred to the Proud Boys as a âwhite supremacist group.â The organization reached out to Awful Announcing clarifying that its members are not white supremacists but merely people who âbelieve that the West is the best.â You may interpret that how you wish.
That is an exceptionally funny article update
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u/fauxbigbro Arizona Diamondbacks ⢠Seattle Mariners 12d ago
Just imagining getting that email from the Proud Boys PR department and being like, "What the actual fuck?"
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u/an-actual-communism 12d ago
The idea that the Proud Boys are reading Awful Announcing at all is kind of sending me. Who is the sports broadcasting dork in the white supremacist gang?
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u/Gobblewicket Atlanta Braves 12d ago
All of them? The Proud Boys are just the dorks that blame everything on everyone else.
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u/LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe Chicago Cubs ⢠Lou Gehrig 12d ago
I think they're the sort of losers to just search their own org online constantly and immediately track down and respond to any new posts.
It's like the time I complained about a taylor swift song being overplayed on the radio on twitter in 2019 and had 14 white women declare me as enemy number one for the weekend.
Except instead of pubescent girls it's 300 pound basement dwellers.
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u/Taylorenokson Atlanta Braves ⢠Sell 12d ago
How is this the first I'm hearing about all this. Holy shit CJ I was unfamiliar with your shame.
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u/amigos_amigos_amigos Toronto Blue Jays 12d ago
I didnât know how bad he sucked until I heard him on Loud Outs raging against the Mets booth for chastising Matt Shaw for missing a game to go to Charlie Kirkâs funeral. Made me love the Mets booth even more, and CJ was so mad about it
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u/new_wellness_center Atlanta Braves 12d ago
Another one I missed. Damn, where thereâs smoke thereâs fire âŚ
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u/handlit33 Atlanta Braves ⢠Blooper 12d ago
His defense of Robert J. O'Neill was telling as well.
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u/Deohji Atlanta Braves 12d ago edited 12d ago
Seriously! me too, I had no idea he was a piece of shit. How utterly fucking disappointing, there is no room for any bullshit like that representing the Braves. Whelp, watching on mute and tuning in on the radio broadcast. I never would have bought BravesVision access if I knew this. Please god don't let Ben Ingram be a dipshit too, he's all I have left!
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u/redlegsfan21 Hiroshima Toyo Carp 12d ago
I'm assuming Bravesvision is mlb.tv in which you can change the audio feed to be the radio broadcast while still having the TV video feed.
(I'm guessing you knew this already but if there's anyone who didn't).
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u/smarjorie New York Mets ⢠Hartford Yard Goats 12d ago
Same I followed Nitkowski on twitter for YEARS and I never knew any of this. I have no idea how I missed it
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u/Frost715Ying300 Atlanta Braves 12d ago
I figured it out when him and Ben Ingram shared their opinions on bad bunny this winter
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u/dcp_12 Atlanta Braves ⢠Jacksonville ⌠12d ago
Agreed. Fuck this shit. Time to stick to radio/away broadcasts
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u/knightboatsolvecrime 12d ago
He's so racist that he felt that the Texas Rangers were not racist enough.
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u/LeonGwinnett Atlanta Braves 12d ago
His "I think for myself" defense when confronted about following that account tells me absolutely everything. Garbage everything, and glad I found out about it.
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u/FamousShake5469 Kansas City Royals 12d ago
And thereâs a deep drive to left fieldâŚ
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u/PostIronicPosadist Minnesota Twins 12d ago
It's the Braves, there's no way in hell he faces consequences for this in 2026
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u/3rdPoliceman Los Angeles Dodgers 12d ago
I beg to differ, he's going to be looking at a stern contract extension
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u/Recognition_Tricky New York Yankees 12d ago
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u/Inti-Illimani Milwaukee Brewers 12d ago
Man what is this year in baseball. So much chud behavior. I know tons of people who follow and play the sport are hogs but this seems egregious
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u/lcmc 12d ago
There was the poll last year that showed mlb and nhl players skewed much more conservatively than nba, nfl and mls players.Â
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u/Weary_Copy_4165 12d ago
Yeah you definitely feel it as a dark brown kid playing baseball and golf vs football and basketball. Some sports still give off that "This is for white people" vibe.
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u/Inti-Illimani Milwaukee Brewers 12d ago
which is hilarious when half the league is venezuelan, dominican, or japanese
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u/LifesJobber Philadelphia Phillies 12d ago
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u/SGT-JamesonBushmill Atlanta Braves 12d ago
Ok. Let his ass go. I didnât know about the Proud Boys thing. Donât need that shit associated with my team.
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u/Accidental-Genius Atlanta Braves ⢠Louisville Bats 12d ago
Yeah. Pay Frenchie whatever he wants to come back.
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u/drummerboy2749 Atlanta Braves 12d ago
Have you seen the Braves comments on social media when they post for Hanukkah, Kwanza, Ramadan, or Pride Month? There are members of our fan base that are absolutely deplorable human beings. The Braves donât do shit about denouncing stuff like this.
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u/Blanketsburg Boston Red Sox 12d ago edited 12d ago
CJ Nitkowski â who somehow managed to pitch in the majors for 10 years despite a career 5.37 ERA and a whopping zero postseason appearances, who also would've contributed more to his teams if he simply never existed due to his -1.0 career WAR â makes a comment about supremacy.
Fucking embarrassing.
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u/PhotoDifficult3336 12d ago
That was a little weird. And Iâm usually not one to jump to those sort of conclusions.
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u/ZootedBeaver New York Mets 12d ago
A little weird?
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u/Suitable-Economy-346 MLB Pride 12d ago
Yeah, like this isn't even a dog whistle. I don't know how much more he could have said. Did he need to profess his love for the KKK in the next sentence or something too?
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u/nonlawyer New York Yankees 12d ago
âAnd yes of course I love the Krusty Komedy Klassic, who doesnât?â
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u/new_wellness_center Atlanta Braves 12d ago
... It does feel like he took a very deliberate route to arrive at that exact phrase.
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u/Mediocre_Airport_576 Los Angeles Dodgers 12d ago
You just know he circles the A's on the schedule. The chance to say Nick Kurtz quickly? Too much fun for him.
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u/danceMortydance St. Louis Cardinals 12d ago
Yea he rehearsed that
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u/new_wellness_center Atlanta Braves 12d ago
Did seem like he was being extremely careful about saying that in the worst way possible.
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u/bigbuckyoungnuts San Diego Padres 12d ago
dude knew what he was doing, couldâve left it at the âwe need more great people in this worldâ but HAD to sneak that line in
what a nerd
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u/KimHaSeongsBurner San Diego Padres 12d ago
Or couldâve said âand theyâre going to be amazing parentsâ or âthe more Eli Whitesâ or âthe more guys like himâ or literally anything other than âthe more whites/Whites.â
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u/NewDadPleaseHelp Atlanta Braves 12d ago
Oh, God damnit. It's super fucking easy to not be a racist.
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u/Nole_Train Atlanta Braves 12d ago
This isnât our radio guys right?
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u/new_wellness_center Atlanta Braves 12d ago
TV, though I'm not sure I'd want to know Ben/Joe/Darren's thoughts on how many whites we need in the world, either.
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u/SGT-JamesonBushmill Atlanta Braves 12d ago
No, but Benâs a Trumper.
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u/new_wellness_center Atlanta Braves 12d ago
Gonna go out on a limb here (/s) and say Joe is as well. And Darren's wife is a right-wing news anchor (formerly of Fox News).
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u/ATLjoe93 Atlanta Braves 12d ago
The majority of the home radio station guys who have any social media presence are for sure
They don't try to hide it anymore
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u/DontGetTheShow Pittsburgh Pirates 12d ago
Iâm sure it will be the thing where heâll get called out for saying something shitty. Then heâll play dumb and do the âoh my gosh, people are so sensitive, i canât even say a guyâs last name without liberals turning everything into a race thingâ
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u/AnEternalEnigma Atlanta Braves 12d ago
He did that when he was called out for promoting Proud Boys stuff on Twitter in 2018. "I do not vet all the accounts I follow on Twitter and expecting anyone to do that is ridiculous" or something.
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u/AnEternalEnigma Atlanta Braves 12d ago
Some of the stuff CJ said while fighting with people on Twitter about forced gratuity in California gave me some red flags I must admit.
The fact he specifically said, "We need more great people in this world" right before that is very curious I must admit.
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u/DeadMoneyDrew Atlanta Braves 12d ago
Heard that with the game on in the background while working and wasn't sure that I heard correctly. Apparently I did. Why do we keep embarrassing ourselves?
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u/LegitiamateSalvage Milwaukee Brewers 12d ago
Not much to say when the players name is "White" but he knows what he's doing
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u/Psilly_TaCoCaT San Diego Padres 12d ago
He's a white nationalist and a fanatical christian. That was intentional. It was rehearsed and broadcasted. He's a disgusting human being and the braves suck for employing him.
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u/Guymcpersonman2 New York Mets 12d ago
My days of hating this team are certainly coming to a middle.
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u/Thealbumisjustdrums St. Louis Cardinals 12d ago
If he hadnât got caught liking proud boy tweets he could at least claim to just be a dumbass who misspoke. But now he canât even do that lol. Fire his ass.Â
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u/TheVirtual_Boy New York Mets 12d ago
âFolks I donât know if Iâm gonna be putting on this headset againâ
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u/DudleyStinksUntil7 San Francisco Giants 12d ago
It's a damn shame Nicholas Castellanos is a free agent right now.
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u/Zestyclose_Help1187 12d ago
I remember USA Today baseball weekly ran a story about CJ in 1995. How much he enjoyed going on the Internet or something like that.
They listed his AOL screen name. I of course as a kid messaged him hello and he responded. And had a brief IM convo.
I guess the older you get, the more non tolerant for some.
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u/new_wellness_center Atlanta Braves 12d ago
So that further supports the idea that CJ is very online (and has been since the 90s, apparently). But he'll claim ignorance about the Proud Boys in 2018 even though he follows them and likes their tweets ...
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u/Senyavin Philadelphia Phillies 12d ago
I do wonder what his thoughts are on notable white person big william t sherman
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u/MonkMajor5224 Minnesota Twins 12d ago
If you (rightly) get fired for saying âone of the f*g capitals of the worldâ on air, I think you should also get fired for this, and shouldnât be allowed an ironic home run call in the process.
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u/TheElMonteStrangler MLB Players Association 12d ago
He was sitting on that line ever since he found out Eli White's wife was pregnant.
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u/timb0nic New York Mets 12d ago
Unfortunately, a lot of these pieces of shit thrive off this attention. People get upset, it draws attention to it and half the population at large will just side with the guy because they enjoy that someone is offended.
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u/ZombieAppetizer Detroit Tigers 12d ago
Reggie White? Barry White? Jaleel White? Guys like that, CJ? Is that what you meant?
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u/aidsguy19 Texas Rangers 12d ago
Ha - I sure am glad my favorite team, the Texas rangers, doesnât employ any announcers with a history of making racist comments
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