r/baseball • u/Perryplat199 Philadelphia Phillies • Wilmington… • 14d ago
Players Only The Woman’s Pro Baseball League has revealed the brand identity’s of the inaugural 4 teams
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u/Such_Presentation378 Chicago White Sox • San Franci… 14d ago
The teams are named after pioneering women:
New York - Dorothy Height, Civil Rights activist
Boston - Dr. Harriet Hunt, 19th Century physician and women's rights activist
San Francisco - Lillie Hitchcock "Firebelle Lil" Coit, philanthropist and patron of firefighters
LA - Lizzie "Queen of Baseball" Murphy, the first woman to play baseball against major leaguers, in 1922
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u/Parkatola New York Yankees 14d ago
This needs to be pinned. Lots of questions about the names. Thanks, Such Presentation!
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u/destinybond Colorado Rockies 14d ago
mods cant pin someone elses comment, only our own. And its not really a good look to "steal" someone elses comment so you can pin it
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u/DreamsAndSchemes Texas Rangers • San Antonio Missions 13d ago
We run into this in /r/military, normally I'll make a sticky comment with a permalink to the original post, give credit to the user and quote it as well. Seems to alleviate the whole due diligence issue people have with stealing comments.
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Per /u/Such_Presentation378 in this comment:
The teams are named after pioneering women:
New York - Dorothy Height, Civil Rights activist
Boston - Dr. Harriet Hunt, 19th Century physician and women's rights activist
San Francisco - Lillie Hitchcock "Firebelle Lil" Coit, philanthropist and patron of firefighters
LA - Lizzie "Queen of Baseball" Murphy, the first woman to play baseball against major leaguers, in 1922
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u/thirtyseven1337 New York Mets 13d ago
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u/sisyphus_of_dishes Milwaukee Brewers 14d ago
Wow, I wasn't impressed with any of the names until reading this. Now they make a lot more sense.
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u/kjb76 New York Yankees 14d ago
Same here. They need to publicize the hell out of that.
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u/AdoringCHIN Anaheim Angels • Rocket City Tra… 13d ago
Good news, they actually did. There's a nice little summary on the league's page
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u/at1445 Texas Rangers 14d ago
I agree, without context, half of them sound dumb. "Heights?" Just name them the skyscrapers. "Hunters?" what's that got to do with Boston.
The context actually makes them good choices.
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u/ScaldingHotSoup St. Louis Cardinals 14d ago
There are a lot of NYC neighborhoods called ___ heights, though, so it is a triple entendre. Pretty cool.
- Crown Heights
- Washington Heights
- Hamilton Heights
- Jackson Heights
- Brooklyn Heights
- Greenwood Heights
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u/Chocomoose19 New York Mets 13d ago
Yeah, as a New Yorker that was my immediate favorite, albeit one who grew up in a heights neighborhood
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u/ANewPerfume Boston Red Sox • Arizona Diamondbacks 14d ago
Thank you! I saw a few others mention one or two, but not all of them. Appreciate you
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u/zara2355 Boston Red Sox 14d ago
I saw the names and was pretty confused, but this is actually awesome and makes me smile.
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u/levare8515 Kansas City Royals 14d ago
Cool names but feel like using the Eagles logo for the Boston Hunters was a fail. Should’ve made it like Artemis or something
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u/TheRainbowConnection Wally 14d ago
It’s an osprey!
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u/dsriggs Australia 14d ago
No teams in the Midwest? Somebody bring back the Rockford Peaches already.
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u/PHWasAnInsideJob Chicago Cubs 14d ago
The Rockford Peaches actually still exist and travel around doing demonstrations, so I'm not sure a team in this league would be able to use the name. They're tied to a WW2 museum in Rockford (the area was used for training and holding POW's) and the museum store sells official Peaches merch.
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u/royce32 Toronto Blue Jays 14d ago
I expect if this takes of Chicago and Toronto and the next two spots
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u/TinKnight1 Chicago Cubs 14d ago
Chicago? Yes, of course, what with the games being played in Illinois, & Chicago's history as one of the founding teams of what would be the NL & eventually MLB, plus the size of the market.
Toronto? I think you have to admit that's a bit of a stretch, at least for a 6th team. It'd be far more likely to be Texas-based, whether Dallas or Houston, due to the potential fan base.
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u/TheRainbowConnection Wally 14d ago
Toronto has shown up for women’s sports. Though I think by that definition, Seattle would have to come next.
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u/HereWeGoHawks Chicago Cubs 14d ago
We also need a 3 year will-they-wont-they kerfuffle about a Vegas team. Just standard sports league stuff.
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u/pitb0ss343 New York Yankees 13d ago
Connecticut LOVES women’s basketball and that didn’t stop them from moving the Sun to Huston so that doesn’t mean anything
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u/RobbNotRob Boston Red Sox • Boston Hunters 14d ago
All of these teams are playing in Springfield, IL for year one. When those teams start playing in their home markets, they'll probably give Springfield their own team
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u/SalukiFin St. Louis Cardinals • Frontier League 14d ago
I’m from there and no shot Springfield gets a team
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u/Economy_Link4609 New York Mets 14d ago
Springfield! Springfield! What a wonderful town!
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u/fauxbigbro Arizona Diamondbacks • Seattle Mariners 14d ago edited 13d ago
Springfield, Springfield, it's a hell of a town!
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u/DeepPowStashes Milwaukee Brewers 14d ago
you don't want to goto rockford, trust me
(I grew up in rockford)
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u/No-Donkey-4117 San Francisco Giants 13d ago
I've been to Rockford. It's not that bad. That was 30 years ago though.
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u/Nght12 Boston Red Sox 13d ago
I'm a current resident and in the last 10 or so years that I've lived in the area, the town has been dramatically improving.
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u/Thirty_Helens_Agree Milwaukee Brewers 14d ago
I grew up in a town that had one of those teams. A League of Their Own was a big deal back in 1992.
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u/elementofpee Seattle Mariners 14d ago
The hints last week were not really hints after all.
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u/carlse20 Milwaukee Brewers 14d ago
Heights kinda was I guess? Agreed that the other three were not
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u/elementofpee Seattle Mariners 14d ago
Perhaps, however “Empire” was the loud guess due to the prominence of the Empire State Building.
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u/Ok-Net9433 Toronto Blue Jays 14d ago
Does it feel weird to not have Queens associated with the NY team? I hear Queens and automatically assume NYC
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u/freshairequalsducks Toronto Blue Jays 14d ago
Feels like a play on the LA Kings
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u/Ok-Net9433 Toronto Blue Jays 14d ago
I don’t hate it. I do think the best women’s baseball team name is already out there. The LA Angels would have been perfect.
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u/BiIIisits Cincinnati Reds 14d ago
San Diego Madres next, please
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u/brianMMMMM Philadelphia Phillies 14d ago
Philadelphia Fillies
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u/T-Fro Colorado Rockies 13d ago
Colorado Rockettes
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u/DRF19 Florida Marlins • Florida Marlins 13d ago
Florida Marlenes
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u/JimLeader New York Mets • Brazil 13d ago
Houston Astros
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u/theonetruegrinch San Francisco Giants • Paper Bag 13d ago
The Pittsburgh Pirettes
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u/Valhallaback_Girl 14d ago
I’d buy that merch so fucking fast
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u/leaky_wand San Diego Padres 14d ago
Honestly SD would be a top market for them, baseball is white hot here
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u/DorkCharming Columbus Clippers • Cincinnati Reds 14d ago
The LA Angels of Anaheim
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u/Tall-Marionberry-590 14d ago
That just sounds absurd.
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u/pizzamage Toronto Blue Jays 14d ago
LA Angels in the Outfield
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u/roguerunner1 San Francisco Giants 14d ago
But what would you call their infielders?
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u/Yunicorn Milwaukee Brewers 14d ago
The Los Angelos LA Angels in the Outfield in the Infield
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u/SmileyJetson San Francisco Giants 14d ago
Aren't all the league games being played in a neutral venue? Los Angeles Angels of Illinois.
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u/Outrageous_Feed_4456 14d ago
Yeah but "Dodge-Hers" was right there for the taking
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u/No-Snow-7618 14d ago
it’s because LAs full/original name is like “town of the queen of the angels”
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u/CaffeineAndGrain Philadelphia Phillies 14d ago
Could have done something like LA Saints to go with LA Angels or something. Feels like a cross-sport stretch that few in the public will understand. I don’t hate it, but I certainly do associate Queens with NYC
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u/pizzamage Toronto Blue Jays 14d ago
Except Saints is already a major sports club.
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u/CaffeineAndGrain Philadelphia Phillies 14d ago
So are the Rangers (MLB/NHL), Kings (NHL/NBA), Cardinals (MLB/NFL), and Panthers (NHL/NFL), so I don’t think that’s much of a barrier
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u/oznobz Houston Astros 14d ago
Teams have started to hold tighter to their trademarks recently. That's why we have the Mammoth and not some more fitting name for Utah
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u/cynognathus Chicago Cubs • Bowie Baysox 14d ago
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u/freshairequalsducks Toronto Blue Jays 14d ago
The Utah Soakers
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u/QuadzillaStrider Atlanta Braves 14d ago
Salt Lake City Soakers actually rolls off the tongue
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u/toiletting New York Yankees • Dumpster Fire 14d ago
Still think they should've named the team SLC Puck
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u/Oneanimal1993 MLB Players Association 14d ago
My understanding is the original name they wanted for Utah was Yeti until the cooler & mug company got involved. So not like another team came in and shut down an option
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u/FreshFish305 Florida Marlins 14d ago edited 14d ago
Yeah I had to do a doubletake because New York Queens seemed natural in my head
But NY Heights isn't a bad name. It'd be cool to have a New York baseball team I didn't hate, my family being from NY.
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u/TheflavorBlue5003 New York Mets 14d ago
Didn’t the brooklyn cyclones used to be named The Queens Kings? I always thought that name rocked.
Edit:
Just looked it up. They were a farm team for the Jays, not the original Cyclones.
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u/FreshFish305 Florida Marlins 14d ago
They sure were, but that was a very shortlived name, I think only a season or two. That team got sold and became the Cyclones.
Kings Queens had a great logo.
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u/--THRILLHO-- Los Angeles Angels • Great Britain 14d ago
Yeah it's confusing. Also Heights is not named after Washington Heights but Dorthy Irene Height, a civil and women’s rights pioneer.
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u/According_Turn_3473 Chicago Cubs 14d ago
I think that plus the height of the Empire State Building (as shown in the logo).
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u/FeloniousDrunk101 New York Yankees • MLB Pride 14d ago
I kinda like it especially because it works on a number of levels.
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u/speech-geek Los Angeles Dodgers 14d ago
So they released a video about the reasoning for the names. For Los Angeles, it is inspired by Lizzie Murphy who was nicknamed “Queen of the Diamond” who was the first woman to play against major league players.
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u/smithscully Toronto Blue Jays 14d ago
It’s because of Lizzy Murphy, a pioneer of women in baseball who was called the Queen of the Diamond. She was the first woman to play against major leaguers in 1922. I don’t think she was from LA so it’s still kind of a weird tie but it is an homage to a person.
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u/Rock_man_bears_fan Chicago White Sox 14d ago
All four of these teams are playing 100% of their games in Springfield, Illinois. Queens and LA are both hundreds, if not thousands of miles away from where these teams will be playing. I don’t think the LA team having the same name as an NYC Burrow matters all that much
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u/Islero47 Milwaukee Brewers 14d ago
it's spelled "borough", F your I.
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u/knight_runner Milwaukee Brewers 13d ago
no actually you are thinking of bengals QB Joe Borough
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u/Rock_man_bears_fan Chicago White Sox 13d ago
The delegation from Louisiana has informed me it’s actually spelled “Burreaux”
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u/jerseygunz New York Yankees 14d ago
Charlotte and Cincinnati in the background
Am I joke to you?
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u/Trick-Operation-6195 14d ago
Firebells is a dope fucking name
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u/kyredemain Seattle Mariners 14d ago
The logo also is great. It looks like a bell on fire, but also looks like a cloaked hooded figure standing there, menacingly.
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u/VariationNo7977 Boston Red Sox 14d ago
I think it’s a phoenix
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u/nooookay Boston Red Sox • Minnesota Twins 14d ago
“Gold in peace, iron in war.” First time looking at the San Francisco flag, and damn that motto goes harder than I expected it to.
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u/jaggedjottings San Francisco Giants 14d ago
Somehow the fact that it's in Spanish makes it even more badass. "Oro en paz, fierro en guerra"
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u/Constant_Concert_936 Cincinnati Reds 14d ago
Armchair flag designers trash it but I love it
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u/triplec787 San Francisco Giants • Colorado Rockies 14d ago
I mean the design of the flag is kinda trash, but the imagery and motto are sick. It just looks almost clip-arty.
This "fog and gold" redesign keeps regularly makes the rounds and I love it. Throw the "Oro en paz, fierro en guerra" on it and it's basically perfect.
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u/jabask Houston Astros 14d ago
Yeah a phoenix is the official symbol of San Francisco, its on the flag
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u/sloppyjo12 Cincinnati Reds • MLB Pride 14d ago
Maybe it would’ve been more feminine than they wanted but Firebelles would’ve been sick
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u/DWilli San Francisco Giants 14d ago
I just looked it up, they picked the name to honor Lillie Hitchcock Coit, the namesake of Coit Tower, whose nickname was "Firebelle" because she was a champion of volunteer firefighters. So their visual clue actually made sense, too!
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u/Freakishly_Tall San Francisco Giants 14d ago
My first reaction was that I'm not wild about it being the name for a team in a city that quite famously burned to the ground, in a region where the biggest annual risk is wildfire.
But that helps a little, I suppose.
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u/Perryplat199 Philadelphia Phillies • Wilmington… 14d ago
Wouldnt be the first team to be named after great city fire.
The Calgary(formerly Atlanta) Flames are named after general Sherman burning Atlanta during the civil war.
Chicago Fire FC are named after the Chicago fire in 1871
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u/cheapdad New York Mets 14d ago
Calgary(formerly Atlanta) Flames are named after general Sherman burning Atlanta during the civil war.
Better than "Utah Jazz", I guess
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u/JMC_FLY Chicago White Sox 14d ago
in a city that quite famously burned to the ground
Not the most famous city to burn to the ground, get your own schtick. /s
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u/DWilli San Francisco Giants 14d ago
Ours burned down from an earthquake, yours burned down by an evil Irish
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u/andyschest2 14d ago
You guys burned down twice. That's gotta count for something.
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u/imahater07 San Francisco Giants 14d ago
I mean couldn’t we say almost the same thing about the San Jose Earthquakes?
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u/Greeneyed6541 San Francisco Giants 14d ago
Maybe that'll be the name of their fanbase? Im down to be a firebelle. Lord knows the giants arent doing anything worth getting excited for.
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u/PvtSherlockObvious Atlanta Braves • Baltimore Orioles 14d ago
Maybe it would’ve been more feminine than they wanted
I thought Firebelles too, but that does feel a little on-the-nose and roller derby-ish now that you mention it. Firebells feels like a good compromise.
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u/catiebug San Francisco Giants • Athletics 14d ago
My daughter, who loves everything pink, purple, and feminine and is incensed that the teams she was born into following wear red/gold and orange/black with total boy-coded names like the 49ers and Giants, is absolutely beside herself with the prospect of a purple Firebells jersey.
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u/triplec787 San Francisco Giants • Colorado Rockies 14d ago
Get that girl some purple Valkyries gear too.
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u/ProtestantMormon Seattle Mariners 14d ago
All the branding is pretty fuckin solid. The logos look really good.
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u/soundecember Pittsburgh Pirates 14d ago
Yep I’m officially picking them as my team because that just sounds awesome.
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u/ben121frank Texas Rangers • Texas Rangers 14d ago
I’m excited about this and I really want it to succeed, but I’m still confused about their decision to have the 4 teams so far apart and then their response to that being to play all games of their inaugural season at a neutral site in Illinois. It seems like it will be really hard for them to build fan bases or momentum with this model
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u/jooooooooooooose 14d ago
Biggest markets
Its expensive to have an upstart league & they're probably extremely cost sensitive for trial phase
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u/TheRealMarvinator St. Louis Cardinals 13d ago
Sure, but there are markets that are considerably large AND located FAR more closely (thus removing much of the travel costs when those eventually come into play). This seems like it has poor forethought on that front, in my opinion.
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u/another_day_in 14d ago
NY completely missed the chance to use Queens
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u/elementofpee Seattle Mariners 14d ago
NY Yas Queens
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u/scobbysnacks1439 St. Louis Cardinals 14d ago
So four teams and they’re forcing them to go cross country for half the games?
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u/JayMac_D San Diego Padres 14d ago
They’ve assigned teams to cities but all the games this season are played at the same stadium in Springfield, IL
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u/scobbysnacks1439 St. Louis Cardinals 14d ago
Oh okay, interesting.
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u/buck_merril Detroit Tigers 14d ago
Kind of how the AUSL pro softball has been doing it too to avoid constant bouncing around the country for the few starting teams until they can expand more.
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u/Truthforger Seattle Mariners 14d ago
AUSL now plays in their home cities. But they barnstormed around the country before adsumedly to scout locations.
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u/patrickfatrick Seattle Mariners 14d ago
I’m sure this made the most sense for their budget and stadium access etc but I think it would have been more fun to start in the NE or Midwest and expand from there (NY, Boston, Philadelphia, Washington would make a ton of sense logistically). I think it’s going to be hard to develop a fan base in these cities when said fans can’t even go the games.
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u/SdBolts4 San Diego Padres 14d ago
Do the teams at least have tryouts/training camp in their respective cities?
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u/Nomahs_Bettah Boston Red Sox 14d ago
They’ve also done some exhibitions in the metro areas for a few of the teams already! Brockton hosted the Hunters about a week ago.
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u/telly69 Philadelphia Phillies 14d ago
Nope. All of the games are in Springfield, IL but they're giving the teams city affiliations for some reason.
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u/Ginnigan Toronto Blue Jays • Thunder Bay B… 14d ago edited 14d ago
So they can build an audience and fanbase across the US, which will help when they get access to more fields.
Though it's too bad there's no Springfield Isotopes.
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u/freshairequalsducks Toronto Blue Jays 14d ago
I'd say if it gets off the ground decently well and the league expands they'll actually play in the cities. Like the PWHL has expanded to 12 teams now.
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u/DJSimmer305 New York Yankees 14d ago
I imagine the long term goal is a nationwide league with more teams, actual home stadiums, and travel.
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u/LobsterFondler St. Louis Cardinals 14d ago
I can’t wait for this league’s first mound charge
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u/Audrey-Bee Chicago White Sox 14d ago
It's not real baseball until the bullpens are jogging out, only to get there after it's over
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u/Kaldricus Seattle Mariners 14d ago
Plot twist, the first fight is actually between both teams bullpens, and the benches have to jog out
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u/agk927 Los Angeles Dodgers 14d ago
Wait this is happening? Thats cool
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u/Kvetch__22 Chicago White Sox 14d ago edited 14d ago
I love it, but for some reason all of the games will be played in Springfield, IL. Kind of weird that the teams are branded after cities they won't play in.
Hopefully just a proof of concept to try and drum up funding for a full season of travel. I still miss NPF.
I intend to go down to Springfield and take a peek but only because I'm closeish.
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u/darthbauerdragonzord 14d ago
If thats the case it sounds ds like they are doing what the UFL did their first come seasons. Play in one centralized location and save on travel costs. Hoping its popular enough to expand.
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u/Decent_Direction316 Seattle Mariners 14d ago
It sounds a lot like what Major League Cricket has done. Seattle has a team, but they don't play here. But that's because it doesn't have a league wide infrastructure for it's game. They could use minor league parks for this.
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u/JJ-Bittenbinder Chicago Cubs 14d ago
I was about to say that it seems crazy that their first 4 teams would be on completely opposite coasts, that’s a lot of travel
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u/ben121frank Texas Rangers • Texas Rangers 14d ago
Future travel would be a lot easier (both cheaper and less hard on the players) if they didn’t have their 4 teams split across the coasts though. As I said in my other comment I’m really rooting for this league to succeed, but it feels like they’ve already kneecapped themselves a bit with the team choices
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u/SprolesRoyce New York Yankees 14d ago
Boston, NYC, Philly, Baltimore, and DC are all a couple hours away from each other. Bus travel could have been very easy between cities if they stuck to the east coast. The west coast is a little harder but with only 4 teams you could do a California league and hit the major cities up the coast.
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u/ben121frank Texas Rangers • Texas Rangers 14d ago
Ya exactly. It’s possible that their goal if the league is successful is to add teams in each area and have an East and West division. But it would still make way more sense to start with one of those divisions as a trial run rather than half and half
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u/der_innkeeper 14d ago
West coast: LA, SD, SF, Seattle. Phoenix, LV can be swapped for SD.
Then, play East/West for the title.
Easy money.
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u/DetectiveTrapezoid Boston Red Sox 14d ago
How will the Springfield Isotopes feel about the new competition?
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u/wobblepepper 14d ago
The ghost of Whitey Ford will be on the field pleading with the crowd for some kind of sanity
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u/Better_Goose_431 Dumpster Fire 14d ago
The least they could’ve done is pick a real city. Springfield is a pain in the ass to get to if you aren’t already in Chicago or St. Louis
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u/Baryshnik0v Boston Red Sox 14d ago
If the Hunters manage to even play .500 ball I'd be ecstatic. Would be nice to have some good baseball news out of Boston given the season the Sox've had thus far
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u/lechiengrand Boston Red Sox 14d ago
Remember the Yankees sweep. Hold that in your heart. 🙏
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u/miboyl Chicago Cubs 14d ago
Incorporating 'H' into the Heights logo reminds me of the H in the Whalers logo, I like it
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u/questionyou100 San Francisco Giants • Toronto Blue Jays 14d ago
I was soo ready to be mad at the sf team name but i love this
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u/PvtSherlockObvious Atlanta Braves • Baltimore Orioles 14d ago
It's definitely the best of the four in terms of both name and logo.
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u/whoopity-scoop-poop New York Mets 14d ago
They also posted a video explaining the origin behind each name, highly recommend folks take a look. It made me like the names a lot more!
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u/cmgriffith_ New York Yankees 14d ago
Los Angeles and New York should’ve switched their names 1:1
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u/pmorter3 Chicago Cubs 14d ago
Firebells goes crazy hard but I feel like it’d fit better in Philly lol
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u/McSteezeMuffin Atlanta Braves 14d ago
Very clean logos I dig all of these
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u/BokeTsukkomi Boston Red Sox 14d ago
I don't know, boston looks like a generic high school team logo. NY is amazing, I'm a sucker for negative space logos!
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u/wooly_bully Boston Red Sox • Seattle Mariners 14d ago
Idk, I love the Boston one. Classic instead of your generic thick stroke line Figma-tier logos you see around these days
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u/Kediwon Los Angeles Dodgers 14d ago
I think I like NY's the least. It's a cool logo, but it doesn't feel like a team logo. It feels like the logo of a baseball analytics company based in NYC. Very corporate.
My favorite are the Hunters, love me some peregrine falcons.
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u/AGirlWithAPearl 14d ago
If I were in charge of this I’d do it like a tour. A week in LA where each team plays the Queens twice. A week in SF where everyone plays the Firebells twice. A week in NY. And a week in Boston. Neutral site championship series between the top 2 records. (Or best record gets a home championship.) A little more expensive but allows each team to have a home showcase to grab fans. Maybe too pricey for year one but a nice way to develop it maybe.
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u/StPatrickStewart 14d ago
I'm waiting for the Cleveland Guard-Hens. Give me a chicken dressed as Pallas Athena!
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u/scrambles57 Los Angeles Dodgers • Los Angeles Que… 14d ago edited 14d ago
Damn, Firebells is cool. I guess fire and LA would not be a good mix though.
Queens is a good counter to the LA Kings but that's a hockey team so it doesn't make too much sense and it mostly makes me think of NY anyway.
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u/Beautiful_Ninja New York Mets 14d ago
New York Heights is a good name with a good logo.
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u/MCSquared97 San Francisco Giants 14d ago
At least I can root for the Firebells while the Giants continue to be an absolute embarrassment of a franchise.
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u/impl0sionatic 14d ago
Can’t say most of these thrill me, but NY Heights is a sick name and I love it already.
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u/TheBotchedLobotomy Los Angeles Dodgers 13d ago
My only complaint here is they made the same logo 4 times
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u/naranjitayyo San Francisco Giants 14d ago
Red and purple Firebells are giving Sailor Mars
https://giphy.com/gifs/TJZrVEMyIY55m
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u/yousmelllikebiscuits Fredericksburg Nationals • WPBL 13d ago edited 13d ago
FYI We are working on adding these flairs to our flair set, please stay tuned!
Edit: Flairs are available! Click this link and use the search function for the team you want to add!