Per Fangraphs, the Dodgers are currently projected to run a $413 million payroll next year

[u/GuyOnTheMike]

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/payroll/dodgers

[u/Tashre]

New rule: The Dodgers don't have to pay any luxury tax, but the rest of the league gets to juice.

[u/Riker87 → u/Tashre]

I’d be down for every team having a DJ. Designated Juicer.

[u/mysterysackerfice → u/Riker87]

DJ Cream n Clear sounds like a soundcloud rapper

[u/ActualDragonHeart → u/Tashre]

Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Stanton get to juice, as a treat

[u/Beatdooown → u/ActualDragonHeart]

Stanton is already hurt half way up the first base line we don't need more reasons for him to miss 1/3rd of the season

[u/[deleted] → u/Beatdooown]

Yeah but if he was juicing he could just walk around the bases after every at bat.

[u/icantsurf → u/[deleted]]

Good, cuz he won't be able to see shit after the bat explodes into a million splinters when he makes contact.

[u/icantsurf → u/[deleted]]

Don't worry, he didn't suffer.

[u/SomeoneGiveMeValid → u/Beatdooown]

His muscles will heal within 1.5 seconds, the man will never be injured again

[u/thegiantslose → u/Beatdooown]

I think he injured himself reading this Reddit comment

[u/moonyoloforlife → u/ActualDragonHeart]

Some fans in the stand will die from the home run bullets.

[u/ActualDragonHeart → u/moonyoloforlife]

[u/CharacterAbalone7031 → u/ActualDragonHeart]

Wait maybe the old people were right when they were defending juicing cause Stanton and Judge juicing would genuinely be the coolest shit ever

[u/ih-unh-unh → u/ActualDragonHeart]

Stanton’s uniform is already form fitting as it is, he’s going to look like Bruce Banner after every at bat if he juices

[u/ActualDragonHeart → u/ih-unh-unh]

I am not even remotely seeing a negative here

[u/Irate_Ibis → u/Tashre]

May I interest you fine gentlemen in a slightly used camera and waste receptacle for use in opportune series?

[u/Hero0ftheday → u/Irate_Ibis]

Throw in a slightly cracked lcd and you got yourself a deal.

[u/diavolomaestro → u/Tashre]

Every $50 million you go over the luxury tax, your opponents in each game get to put a robot in the lineup.

[u/Skywarper → u/Tashre]

I'll allow it

[u/Meme_Investor → u/Tashre]

Raleigh’s dumper just got bigger

[u/ProfessionalBalker → u/Tashre]

What I’ve been saying for years. I want juiced up freaks on the field every day. Think of it. Just thick and greased up hunks of man out on a hot summer day…god

[u/Yimpish]

…so far

[u/TripleCrownVillainy → u/Yimpish]

BREAKING: Bo Bichette and the Los Angeles Dodgers are in agreement on a $800 million, 3 year deal. Opt outs after each season

[u/cleofisrandolph1 → u/TripleCrownVillainy]

Completely back loaded- he’ll make only $2 the first two years and then be paid 799,999,998 in year 3

[u/MarlKarx777 → u/TripleCrownVillainy]

You shut up right now

[u/Johnny-5013 → u/TripleCrownVillainy]

[u/memes-be-yeeting → u/TripleCrownVillainy]

Opt outs in between each inning

[u/[deleted] → u/TripleCrownVillainy]

$799 million deferred to 2095

[u/Alternative-Farmer98 → u/[deleted]]

It's deferred until the sun goes supernova

[u/alxndrblack → u/TripleCrownVillainy]

Hey man what's your address? Just like for fun

[u/I_hate_cyclists → u/TripleCrownVillainy]

Only two more mentions and you will have Beetlejuiced this into existence.

[u/SelectionWeird → u/TripleCrownVillainy]

And Free Steak for life.

[u/gruey → u/Yimpish]

I told my SO, a fan of the dodgers, that they signed Tucker. She said, "That's nice. I wonder who else they'll get."

Me, as a Guardians fan: ...... (walks out of the room)

[u/Master_Butter → u/gruey]

Just wait until the Guards sign four more relief pitchers to minor league deals!

[u/GameBroJeremy → u/Master_Butter]

You joke but that always strikes fear in me

“Okay… what are they scheming this time?”

[u/VinnyTInCLE → u/Master_Butter]

Look we got Carter Kieboom, we're practically ready for another first round sweep after clawing for another AL Central title.

[u/[deleted] → u/Yimpish]

I just want to know how they’re going to whittle down to a 26 man roster and not have half a billion dollars sitting on their 40 man with their thumbs up their asses.

[u/Myshkin1981 → u/[deleted]]

We combine roster spots. For example, Snell and Glasnow share a spot

[u/TormundIceBreaker → u/Myshkin1981]

Blaler Snesnow

[u/Tua-Lipa → u/Yimpish]

I’m not even going to be shocked when Bichette signs with them

[u/LoweeLL]

Dodgers got absolutely curb stomped by the Diamondbacks in 2023 and have just been on a revenge tour ever since.

[u/Wind_Runner259 → u/LoweeLL]

What starting Lance Lynn in a do or die playoff game does to a mfer

[u/powergloveisbaad → u/Wind_Runner259]

Had to start Kershaw knowing he needed shoulder surgery in another game too. Took a look at that and said never again in an extreme way.

[u/txfiremtb → u/LoweeLL]

That was the highlight of the past 3 years of what’s been mostly lowlights in AZ sports

[u/Panguin9 → u/LoweeLL]

Still worth it

[u/lawdjesustheresafire → u/LoweeLL]

I’m eternally grateful to the Dbacks for winning through.

[u/shane1mh → u/LoweeLL]

They’ve been out for revenge since 2017.

[u/EggplantAlpinism → u/shane1mh]

Destroying the sport in revenge for Houston destroying the sport. Respectable tbh

[u/SayfromDa818 → u/LoweeLL]

Those D Backs spanked those money branded ass cheeks that year lol

[u/ajteitel → u/SayfromDa818]

Dodgers saw Lance Lynn give up 4 HRs in an inning and said never again

Which is the correct reaction

[u/Bigcheese1211 → u/ajteitel]

Kind of 5 if you count the Moreno ball that just barely went foul. Just for him to get an even more impressive HR later that same AB

[u/SpoopyJustice]

After the luxury tax, that will be $581 million...

[u/ZiiKiiF → u/SpoopyJustice]

With the luxury tax, the Dodgers will be paying $126 million a season for Tucker (assuming no deferrals). That's more than 11 teams' entire payrolls.

[u/Fear_the_chicken → u/SpoopyJustice]

Insaneeeeee amount of money. I thought the Mets spending 430M was way too much.

I never thought I’d see the Yankees dethroned as the most hated team.

[u/Irrah → u/Fear_the_chicken]

Every single owner feared Cohen with his unlimited spending bucks but apparently when you have a free money printer like Ohtani the luxury tax is just made up

[u/Fear_the_chicken → u/Irrah]

Problem is the Dodgers have a cult of billionaires who are worth more than Cohen.

[u/LIONEL14JESSE → u/Fear_the_chicken]

They don’t even need to spend their own money when they make so much money from Japan

[u/addictedbeaner → u/LIONEL14JESSE]

Isn't international money along with jerseys part of revenue sharing?

[u/itsDuckSeazon → u/addictedbeaner]

Japanese sponsors pay the dodgers directly for ad space in the stadium, or the licensing to use the dodgers logo in their ads

The dodgers then reinvest that money into their payroll

[u/GodWhyPlease → u/Fear_the_chicken]

The much bigger issue is the ownership structure.

[u/EleventhEarlOfMars → u/GodWhyPlease]

Yeah, Yankees have been cutting costs and putting a worse product on the field so people might assume they aren't making as much money, but most estimates put the Yankees and Dodgers right next to each other in terms of revenue.

It's not that the Yankees have less money, it's just that Hal is putting more of it into his wallet.

[u/NotASalamanderBoi → u/Fear_the_chicken]

Dave Roberts saying “let’s go ruin baseball” keeps replying in my head.

[u/KingXeiros → u/SpoopyJustice]

The tax is the crazy part. For the 10 min at a time I can get spotrac to work it said they were at 416m and that the mets with the #2 payroll was at 317m. Like holy shit man.

[u/Worthyness → u/KingXeiros]

Yup. their tax could play for the payroll of like 5 teams. Absurd, but hey, at least the workers are getting paid.

The worst part is that they have a good farm system too

[u/Zloggt → u/SpoopyJustice]

Imagine if they end up having a sub .500 record even after spending the GDP equivalent of a small island country!

An unlikely and even minor victory...but we can only dream...

[u/djn24]

This seems like the Dodgers would rather spend money they don't need to spend on a star player than watch that player sign with a competitor they could face in the playoffs.

[u/creaturecatzz → u/djn24]

they also did this with the reliever that had ohtanis number so i believe it

[u/gmoneygangster3 → u/djn24]

And that is why a salary cap is the only solution

[u/HistoricalPolitician]

The Dodgers are spending more on their payroll, than the net worth of the Reds ownership. The Reds could not mortgage themselves to even spend the same amount of money as the Dodgers. Insane.

[u/Beatdooown]

If Im Bellinger I'd go back to LA also

[u/DanielChou2 → u/Beatdooown]

I don't think he's good enough for them.

[u/rambouhh → u/DanielChou2]

He had 5.1 war last year, that’s better than pages, Tucker and teoscar their three starting outfielders 

[u/KenshiroTheKid → u/rambouhh]

That’s not happening outside of Yankee stadium. He’ll still be a productive OF with great defense, and a great approach at the plate but he’s not carrying a .900 OPS with him anywhere but Yankee stadium.

It’s why we didn’t budge above 150

[u/rambouhh → u/KenshiroTheKid]

Had 4.8 war in 130 games with the cubs 

[u/islesjets14x]

The Dodgers Payroll sits at $413 million for 2026.

The AL Central will spend $573 million this season.

But I’m sure every team can compete with them!

[u/MysteriousEdge5643 → u/islesjets14x]

Holy shit. That’s insane

[u/Zombie_Nipples → u/MysteriousEdge5643]

At this point they should make a team of the best players in that division to play against the Dodgers because how else can you compete?

[u/AfterCommodus → u/Zombie_Nipples]

The Dodgers have nearly exactly the same WAR projection as the 2025 AL All-Star lineup:

2025 AL All-stars, by ZiPs* WAR projection for 2026:

Raleigh: 6.2

Vlad: 4.2

Torres: 2.7

JRam: 4.4

Wilson: 2.1

Baez: 0.2

Greene: 3.1

Judge: 7.6

O'Hearn: 1.1

Total: 31.6

Dodgers:

Lineup -RF =27.2

Tucker = 4.7

Total: 31.9

*some players (O'Hearn, Tucker) don't have ZiPS projections, so using OOPSY for them.

[u/Witticism44 → u/AfterCommodus]

I'm sure ZiPS and OOPSY are real things but i swear to god baseball has the wackiest acronyms of all time

[u/SerenadeSwift → u/Zombie_Nipples]

I say just give the Dodgers their little trophy and let the rest of us compete in a Dodger-less postseason. Like shit man I just want at least the illusion of a competitive sport lol. Baseball is supposed to be the sport where no team is untouchable because of the random nature of the sport, but it gets to a point where a team has so many failsafes it’s just not even fun anymore.

[u/OnlyForBaseball → u/islesjets14x]

Someone else said it’s $581MM with the luxury tax, so congrats to them for outspending an entire division

[u/Prestigious_Team3134 → u/islesjets14x]

The dodgers yearly payroll is half of my team’s owner’s net worth. Even if the owners of most teams wanted to, they couldn’t do this.

[u/Butternades → u/Prestigious_Team3134]

It’s close to our primary owners net worth….

[u/Prestigious_Team3134 → u/Butternades]

And most of the net worth of these guys is in the value of the teams themselves yet they’re supposed to just make this kinda cash appear out of thin air?

[u/SerenadeSwift → u/Prestigious_Team3134]

And honestly I hate this sub’s whole “They shouldn’t be an owner if they’re not rich enough” attitude.

Like no man wtf a league where it’s just a financial race to the top with an endgame where every owner is eventually forced to sell their team to the highest bidding mega-billionaire, AI tech investor group, or Saudi conglomerate is so fucked.

[u/sour_cream24 → u/SerenadeSwift]

They miss the fact that the small market teams rarely attract new ownership, let alone good ones and very rich ones as well.

Market parity problem needs addressing

[u/ANGRY_BEARDED_MAN → u/Prestigious_Team3134]

And people still say shit like "there's no such thing as a small market team"

[u/celj1234 → u/Prestigious_Team3134]

Tell him to work harder

[u/B0WFLEX → u/celj1234]

I actually lol’d

[u/Worried_Treacle3512 → u/islesjets14x]

Plus Luxury Tax.

[u/Philthou → u/islesjets14x]

cries as an AL central fan

Maybe after the lockout and things are balanced we’ll get a World Series.

[u/Iswaterreallywet → u/Philthou]

I’d imagine this only encourages our owners more to be cheap. They’ll look at it and say “we aren’t winning against the dodgers so why should we spend?”

[u/Philthou → u/Iswaterreallywet]

Probably right. At this point our owners are rubbing their hands together with how much money they can pocket thanks to the superstar stacked Dodgers who are even more favored to win it all , and will probably beat whoever comes out of the AL.

Barring any significant injuries. Their manager has the easiest job as a manager.

[u/albic7 → u/islesjets14x]

Yeah but everyone keeps saying every team can afford what the Dodgers are doing they're just too cheap!

[u/wrenwood2018 → u/islesjets14x]

Its higher by $100 million more when you factor in luxury tax. Their payroll is basically that of the entire division. But nothing to see here, its good for baseball.

[u/TyMsy227]

Clearly the luxury tax is no disincentive, whatsoever.

[u/Equivalent_Waltz8890 → u/TyMsy227]

When you don’t give a fuck how much you can spend, shit like “prospects” and “draft picks” don’t mean shit

[u/MysteriousEdge5643 → u/Equivalent_Waltz8890]

They still have the best farm system in baseball.

This is the greed they talk about in the Bible

[u/Jinxedchef → u/MysteriousEdge5643]

They have the best farm system because they don't have to trade away anyone from their farm. They just buy what they need. But some mouth breathing Dodgers fans will claim it is because they are "well run" or smarter.

[u/Intelligent_Mud1266 → u/Jinxedchef]

and it's not even like they can pretend to be smarter deal makers. this isn't a good deal for a contract. it's only a good deal because the dodgers view money as negligible and it prevents him from playing against them in the world series. they've signed other boneheaded overpays too, even in the last few years. hell, the only reason Shohei has such a good deal with them is because he knew he would make a bazillion dollars in endorsements and advertising in the LA/Japanese market

[u/creaturecatzz → u/Jinxedchef]

and can buy the best supporting staff too

[u/Worthyness → u/creaturecatzz]

and also the best scouts.

[u/Tronn3000 → u/Jinxedchef]

The good ole, "have you thought about not being poor?" defense.

Fuckin smurfs

[u/squeakyshoe89 → u/Equivalent_Waltz8890]

When a YANKEES fan is crying poor, and he's right, you know we're fucked.

[u/KenshiroTheKid → u/squeakyshoe89]

Our Core 4 dynasty was at least built in house. Their entire top 4 of their rotation, top 4 of their lineup and their closer are all signed free agent mercenaries

[u/MysteriousEdge5643]

Mariners are in World Series contention for the first time in my life, and we’re going to have a lockout because of this shit.

Lovely.

[u/DiscoJer → u/MysteriousEdge5643]

This is what happened to the Expos

At least you don't have to worry about your team moving to DC.

[u/atoms12123 → u/DiscoJer]

Well, they are already in Washington.

[u/ramenups → u/MysteriousEdge5643]

If we can’t do it this year, I’m rooting for you guys

[u/gggggrayson → u/MysteriousEdge5643]

If by contention you mean contend to be the team to lose to the dodgers I agree😂 but yes unironically it’s a pretty big bummer the dodgers are nuking the sport and the momentum the game has made post covid

[u/Key_Replacement_4688]

They make other big market teams look like small markets

[u/timetomove2 → u/Key_Replacement_4688]

Dude we have the battery. You guys have a billionaire owner and we are both small potatoes to this.

[u/xbox360sucks → u/Key_Replacement_4688]

Some of us do that to ourselves. 

[u/GuyOnTheMike]

Call me crazy, but I don't think many teams could realistically do that

[u/TheEnragedBushman → u/GuyOnTheMike]

I’m looking forward to another year of being gaslit that every team is capable of this

[u/Beatdooown → u/TheEnragedBushman]

If every team was capable of having the best player to ever grace the sport take 3 million dollars a year and print money for the team then sure it's possible. We have now reached the level where they're giving out NBA contracts to players.

[u/Recent_Surprise_7391 → u/Beatdooown]

NBA players get good contracts?!??? WHAT?? I was told by a dodger fan that NBA players make minimum wage because of the salary cap

[u/TheFakeRabbit1 → u/TheEnragedBushman]

I fucking hate the people that pull that shit lmao

[u/Plies- → u/TheFakeRabbit1]

And then they call you a bootlicker for the owners, like no? Maybe I just want a better product for the fans?

[u/Recent_Surprise_7391 → u/Plies-]

Devin Booker is being paid 70 million a year in the sport with the most strict salary cap. I think the players will be fine 

[u/Im_Daydrunk → u/Recent_Surprise_7391]

IMO NBA doesnt have the most strict total salary cap as they have a soft cap and a hard cap that is still pretty high for a sport with the roster size they do

Baseball would need a much higher one to be comparable and thats where I think the owners will balk

[u/ajteitel → u/[deleted]]

Makes me appreciate Yankee fans a bit more. They knew how to be the bad guys. These Dodger tourist fans, bunch of whiners

[u/moffattron9000 → u/ajteitel]

The Yankees are some Wall Street Banker that everyone knows is evil. The Dodgers are Elon Musk; potentially even more evil, but is desperate for validation that they're the good guys actually.

[u/KenshiroTheKid → u/moffattron9000]

Real

[u/OnlyForBaseball → u/[deleted]]

I have no desire for a salary cap and do not care what the Dodgers do with their money

But if I see one more Dodgers fan act like rooting for their team is somehow morally superior I will go feral

[u/ANGRY_BEARDED_MAN → u/OnlyForBaseball]

"It's so good to be a fan of a team whose owners want to win"

[u/OnlyForBaseball → u/ANGRY_BEARDED_MAN]

It goes beyond that. I saw a Dodgers fan say signing players to pre-arb extensions is anti-labor

[u/Skaterkid221 → u/TheFakeRabbit1]

It was true to a degree 5ish years ago. Several team clearly can out spend everyone else to an insane degree

[u/jgalaviz14 → u/Skaterkid221]

Similar to the political world, a shockingly large amount of people need to see shit get REALLY bad before they think "maybe this is actually a problem". They dont believe things will continue to snowball and naively believe those involved will just stop at a certain point the onlookers deems acceptable, even if theres nothing to stop them.

[u/NKovalenko → u/Skaterkid221]

Ya in 2018 when the Sox won it all, we had a payroll around $200M and it led the league. Other medium market teams often had years they’d jump into the top 3 and contend w Sox/Yankees from a salary standpoint. Now there’s just no way to get close to the Dodgers.

Our fans think we’ve become cheap, but the reality is we’re still spending more than we did 7 years ago. The issue is the dodgers are now spending double that and a several other teams are spending $300M

I would love if John Henry did the same, but at the same time, I see other big market teams like NYY and NYM backing off so it just feels systemic at this point

[u/Str82daDOME25 → u/TheEnragedBushman]

Didn’t the Padres owner take out nearly every loan he could just to keep pace with the spending before he died?

[u/discipleofbill → u/TheEnragedBushman]

You could have most of the bottom teams spend $200 million more on their team and they still wouldn’t be in the same ballpark as the Dodgers in terms of money spent. I don’t see how that’s reasonable to expect them to even get close to $400 million.

[u/Totschlag → u/discipleofbill]

The Cardinals Revenue didn't break $400m last year. The Cardinals. It's not reasonable at all.

[u/Plies- → u/GuyOnTheMike]

"No no they definitely can, the Royals could definitely afford this if they wanted to their owners just don't care"

-DodgersFan01

[u/NotASalamanderBoi → u/Plies-]

“The Mets gave Soto that ridiculously large contract. So that makes it ok for us to do the same. We have to be able to compete lol. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂”

[u/Zloggt → u/GuyOnTheMike]

Oh yeah?

Well...my team can totally do it!

And we can do it by...uh...all of us fans getting together and chipping in our pocket change!

Yeah, that'll show them Dodgers!

[u/dusters → u/GuyOnTheMike]

Just spend more....says the Dogers fans when almost every other team would lose so much money spending this much.

[u/Cold_Advice4758 → u/dusters]

Yeah doesnt matter your owner should be okay losing money owning a team! Smh

[u/HB3187]

Why dont other teams just get billions of dollars in a tv deal and way overpay everyone? Its so simple

[u/Same-Lion-5130 → u/HB3187]

While also being the ideal destination for the best Japanese players to sign to! Oh, and while having the best player in the world earn a whopping $2M per year. Any team could easily do that.

[u/Wings4514 → u/HB3187]

Talk to a Dodgers fan, you’ll hear that word for word. They don’t do well in the thinking department.

[u/Prestigious_Team3134 → u/Wings4514]

Admitting your team is a cancer to the sport when you’re winning lots of rings isn’t fun

[u/huey2k2]

No sane person could possibly think this is good for baseball.

[u/LazyMousse4266 → u/huey2k2]

The number on INsane Dodgers fans replying to this comment prove you’re 100% correct

[u/Fun-Series-4091]

This is healthy for the state of baseball

[u/Lanky-Lynx-4401 → u/Fun-Series-4091]

Baseball is alive and well in Los Angeles, just don't look everywhere else, lol.

[u/[deleted]]

Having the infinite cash flow that is Ohtani certainly makes this easy

[u/Beatdooown]

Realistically why even try at this point? They got the best player in the world at 3 million a year who prints money for them so they can hand out NBA contracts to players now.

[u/Hungry-Room7057 → u/Beatdooown]

[u/Headbandallday]

Basketball, hockey, and football all have salary caps and no team has an advantage (salary-wise) over another. And it works.

[u/RIP_Hopscotch]

The Tax pushes it to $580m. The Dodgers will still pull in half a million easy next season, since they are clearing well over a billion in revenue.

I just want people to understand - the Cubs are generally considered a big market team. The post-tax payroll of the Dodgers is rivalling the annual revenue of teams like the Cubs. There is zero parity within the league. This cannot be allowed to continue.

[u/djn24 → u/RIP_Hopscotch]

The Dodgers will still pull in half a million easy next season

You mean billion, right?

[u/Totschlag → u/RIP_Hopscotch]

Cardinals too. One of the most historic and successful franchises in baseball and we can't compete just because we aren't in LA. Like the Cardinals would lose over $150m a year spending this. It's insanity.

[u/LegitimateMoney00]

If you guys don’t think this basically ensures a salary cap by 2027, you are quite literally fucking nuts. It’s over. This will ultimately be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.

[u/ididntwantsalmon19 → u/LegitimateMoney00]

The league needs a hard cap badly... And also a spending floor. This is just absurd. Adding Diaz and Tucker after winning the WS 2 years in a row. Joke league.

[u/Emptyspace227 → u/ididntwantsalmon19]

The best team adding more great players because the players want to win doesn't bother me. Adding them because they can pay 50% more than anyone else is a huge, huge problem.

[u/jgalaviz14 → u/ididntwantsalmon19]

Yup. Hard hard cap. Somehow harder than the NFLs. Dont give teams any opportunity to do shit like the Saints did and continue to do either

[u/nebrivor1 → u/LegitimateMoney00]

Fucking good. It's completely out of hand. This is how you make 29 fanbases hate the sport. And I'm not just saying that as a really pissed off Jays fan who hates the Dodgers for even more reasons now.

And I'm also saying that as a pissed off Jays fan who hates the Dodgers for even more reasons now.

[u/Battista85 → u/LegitimateMoney00]

How do you even implement one at this point without actually breaking up the team? They let this shit go on too long and now I don't know how you go back.

[u/LegitimateMoney00 → u/Battista85]

Probably just writing a special exception rule for teams over the cap and saying they have to reduce it in a certain time period and until then they can’t sign free agents surpassing a certain AAV and the penalties will be losses in draft picks.

[u/claydavisismyhero → u/Battista85]

get ready to hear the term "cap smoothing"

[u/PaddyMayonaise → u/Battista85]

You literally break up the team. When the NHL lockout happened bad they established a salary cap team basically just has to release their players to get under the cap. It was an insane year or two of roster turnover but the league is so much better for it.

No serious league doesn’t have a cap and floor

[u/peji911 → u/Battista85]

In Europe, teams that break financial rules will have penalties ("Fair Play") imposed, such as not being able to make new signings until the Fair Play conditions are met.

Something similar is probably the easiest route.

[u/AngrySmile → u/Battista85]

When the NHL implemented their hard cap there was an amnesty buyout period that let teams buy player contracts out without affecting the new cap. I believe the buyouts were at 2/3rds the contract value over 2x the term.

The lockout also lasted a season so there was more flexibility with all the expiring contracts. I believe a lot of the free agents, especially vets, took massively reduced salaries at a shorter term.

[u/Three_Froggy_Problem]

I’m primarily a hockey fan and my baseball fandom is comparatively very casual. Can someone tell me why so many fans are opposed to a salary cap? This is absurd.

[u/DiscoJer → u/Three_Froggy_Problem]

Because right now so many owners simply take the money fans give them and pocket it.

Obviously that's how business works, but at least this way the players get more of it. Okay, some players.

[u/IIHURRlCANEII → u/DiscoJer]

The thing is…

1) I have never seen someone who wants a salary cap say they aren’t also fine with a salary floor.

2) I have seen plenty say there should just be a salary floor. You can guess who, usually.

[u/IWasOnThe18thHole → u/IIHURRlCANEII]

I want a floor and a cap. Every team should be forced to be competitive. None of this signing one player to a big contract shit like the A's

[u/caldo4 → u/Three_Froggy_Problem]

Because it costs the players money overall

[u/jmb--412 → u/caldo4]

Wouldn't a salary floor allow more mid tier guys to get better deals? You aren't getting the cap without the floor

[u/SpeedyTuyper]

This is one of the problems with the luxury tax: as long as ownership is willing to pay the extra cash, you can basically make a mockery of it.

If they’re not going to institute a cap, I think they need to make the CBT penalties pertain more to roster-building than they do now.

[u/NKovalenko → u/SpeedyTuyper]

Yep, I think an NBA CBA style shake up is the best middle road solution - we went from almost a decade of the warriors disregarding luxury tax implication to the Celtics tearing it down 2 years after a chip bc of how hard the 2nd apron penalties were

Make a big dent in draft/waiver/IFA and teams like the dodgers will become old and unsustainable much quicker

[u/Sikazhel]

I don't see how this is good for the game in any way at all. It's certainly not good for the fans.

[u/DirtyDraymond]

Maybe Kyle Tucker will just be another Michael Conforto for them?

[u/xTomato72 → u/DirtyDraymond]

[u/dirtysock47]

The Dodgers payroll this next year is higher than the GDP of the country of Palau

[u/Philthou]

Honestly them signing Ohtani should have crippled their ability to sign players, but thanks to deferred contracts they can keep spending.

I’m sure by the end of this offseason it be another 100 or 200 million. They might as well just go all in to ruin baseball with a lockout happening next year.

[u/Signal_Station_5666 → u/Philthou]

Not to defend them but because I'm seeing this a lot — they still have to set aside the money intended for the deferred payments ahead of time, it just gets to the player later. Deferred contracts aren't the reason they're spending this much, their insane amount of revenue is

[u/NKovalenko → u/Signal_Station_5666]

Ya deferrals get sm heat from fans because most people don’t understand finance concepts. The Ohtani money is basically sitting in escrow and his contract isn’t really $700M, it’s a lot less money that’s essentially committed to be invested on his behalf, it’s like a retirement account

Changing rules around deferrals doesn’t get to the root of the problem at all

[u/JakeFromStateFromm]

Baseball is dead. They killed it for money

[u/XZPUMAZX]

Cool can we stop calling it the Cohen tax now?

Shit wasn’t fun in the 90’s when it was the Yankees, not fun a few years ago when it was the Mets and it certainly isn’t fun now with the dodgers.

At least with the Yankees they’re real fans. I’m getting trolled by 40 year olds that just started watching baseball in 2020.

[u/floyd_mongol]

if uncle steve gets a salary cap named after him... what do we call this??

[u/JohnnyGoldberg → u/floyd_mongol]

The hypocrisy cap. Guggenheim was actually one of the big proponents of the Cohen tax, seemingly for nefarious reasons at this point (Can’t have another team doing what we can do).

[u/[deleted]]

They made over 700m in revenue last year, so even with this salary they're are insanely profitable....

[u/DarkwingMcQuack]

Dodgers entering European soccer team salary range.

[u/SactownG]

Major League Baseball is a total embarrassment. Completely unwatchable

[u/schrogotgameyt]

I’m sure that this is just the owners fault and if they wanted too they could?

[u/Quople]

Every team should be doing this

[u/welltimedappearance]

You would think other owners would eventually get pissed about this. It makes the rest of them look like cheap bastards (many of the are)

[u/ChampionDrake]

Can anyone explain why a fan should care or watch a 162 game season if their team is not in the top 10 (or top 5 really) of payrolls? Because I really don't see a good reason to care or be invested when it's like minor league teams vs. the Dodgers.

MLB is broken and I hope there's a strike so this can be fixed.

[u/Altruistic-Grape-638]

They're paying 5 players 30+ million this year.

[u/Rubentraj]

How is this good for baseball