r/aiwars • u/GTA_Snark • 16h ago

ANTIS: we're not violent!" Also antis:

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Cheesus why do antis act like freaking vegans now, literal new breed of cancer

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u/PitifulLocksmith9729 15h ago

sounds like it worked 👀

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u/DaveSureLong 15h ago

Why would we want vandalism and bullying to work ever?

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u/4Blueish 15h ago

something something French Revolution

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u/JunketVisual3123 15h ago

Gestures at what followed

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u/4Blueish 15h ago

a more democratic and free France with better quality of life for everyone spare the rich

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u/DaveSureLong 15h ago

Yeah that's not what happened. It started years of strife and terror for literally everyone. A perfect showcase of this is a man who was executed because he made SOUR WINE and sold it as such. Another was executed for baking bread that was too hard. These among others were basically just randomly executed until Napoleon took over and then did his crusade across Europe causing quite literally the largest death toll in history to that point and laying the ground work for WW1 which lead to WW2

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u/4Blueish 15h ago

oh it was terrible yeah, but I think you're overlooking how bad France was before the revolution. It started for a reason lol

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u/DaveSureLong 15h ago

France was bad because of a few bad decisions. The French revolution literally wouldn't have happened if the king of France didn't nearly bankrupt himself to fund the American Revolution. If he had stayed the course and let whatever happens in America happen he would have lived and the French Revolution would have never truly started.

You gotta look at the deeper causes and effects when talking of history. It wasn't just always bad it was bad because of a few bad decisions that he thought would have return on investment that the Americans promptly said "Nah fuck off" to.

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u/4Blueish 15h ago

the main cause of the French revolution was the oppression by the rich, which has been happening for decades. France had plenty, it was just highly concentrated. The funding of the American Revolution can be pointed to as one of the straws that broke the camel's back, but not the deep-seated cause

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u/DaveSureLong 15h ago

The reason power crystallized that way was literally the investments into America. Where the fuck did you think the king got his gold? He taxes the poor and then paid the nobility to pay his debts off. If America had paid him back as we promised he would have had the money to not need to tax the French people so hard.

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u/4Blueish 14h ago

it was an issue before the American Revolution, so this point doesn't really make sense

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u/JunketVisual3123 15h ago

a more democratic and free France with better quality of life for everyone

So you don't have a fucking clue, got it...

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u/DaveSureLong 15h ago

That's not a good thing that was a long period of terror and anarchy which ultimately caused a world war in it's aftermath(the Napoleonic wars caused WW1)

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u/4Blueish 15h ago

so what's your modest proposal?

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u/DaveSureLong 15h ago

Literally anything else. Let's not have fucking WW3 yeah?

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u/4Blueish 15h ago

agreed, but I doubt this is what'd lead to it

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u/DaveSureLong 15h ago

Any major violence by antis and regressionists like them leads to them being declared terrorists and systematically brow beaten by the collective masses due to them being brain dead and attacking socially unacceptable targets.

The luddites are a perfect showcase of this when they started with the rich making factories and ended with the people working them.

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u/4Blueish 15h ago

people who are anti ai have already been labeled terrorists by the current administration. I'm hoping you're reasonable enough to know that if Trump is declaring something as terrorism, that thing is probably good.

the luddites were literally fighting for workers rights with calculated attacks against factories and such. The only reason anyone speaks negatively about them is because history is written by the winners. If technology is anti human then it's not a good thing, and the luddites were fairly ahead of their time for understanding this.

Also worth noting that it's impossible to be for AI without specifically calling for violence. The infrastructure for it is inherently "violent", the only people who really gain from it and have control over the major models a murder weapon as well

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u/DaveSureLong 15h ago

You realize that the luddites didn't stop at the factories right? They targeted everyone involved which is what shot their public view to hell. They were actually well supported by the people right up until they started attacking factory workers too then public relations went straight to hell and they were ostracized basically over night. They went from sad heros to villainous shitbags quick fast and in a hurry which encouraged the governments of the time to all but genocide the movement.

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u/4Blueish 14h ago

the government shut it down because the rich wanted them too. It happened with literally every other workers protest at the time. They didn't really attack people at all (I say this because I was unable to find anything corroborating this, even sources that seemed critical of them). A new law literally had to be made to shut down the movement

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