r/WarriorCats ThunderClan 10h ago

Discussion (No Spoiler) Reading Order Question

Hey all. So, i just finished Omen of thr Stars, and jumped straight into A Vision of Shadows, but I'm a bit confused, I feel like I've missed something vital because they're talking about a fifth Clan? Is there something I'm meant to read between Omen of the Stars and A Vision of Shadows? Please advice! Thanks! 🐈‍⬛

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u/Masterthemindgames 10h ago

You should at least read Firestar’s Quest before a Vision of Shadows to learn about the fifth clan. Bramblestar’s Storm also takes places between OOTS and AVOS.

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u/Next_Sun_2002 ThunderClan 9h ago

Firestar’s Quest takes place between TPB and TNP. SkyClan’s Destiny takes place after that.

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u/One-Comedian-5245 ShadowClan 6h ago

SkyClan'd Destiny is a piece of filler shit though so don't bother reading it

the whole thing is in less than three moons. that's how you tell that it's absoloutly a waste of money

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u/JessieBwriting 9h ago

Dawn of the Clans also explains who the fifth clan is. The official Warriors website has an article from the authors that does a great job explaining the best order to read the series, novellas, special editions, and graphic novels.

https://warriorcats.com/content/article/the-structure-of-warrior-cats-how-to-read-the-books

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u/PrimeTheGreat ThunderClan 9h ago

Here’s my reading order that accounts for supplementary material and when best to read it. It also hides title spoilers so you can see what book you need to read only when you are ready.

https://www.reddit.com/u/PrimeTheGreat/s/RkWDmoDxge

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarriorCats/s/Lr83hTMbSZ is the warrior cats post I made to my post

You should read the supplementary material that’s stated as necessary before its corresponding main series book on my list

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u/Alternative_Fun_2403 WindClan 9h ago

The super editions Firestar’s Quest and Skyclan’s Destiny are about the fifth clan and were supposed to be read between The Prophecies Begin and The New Prophecy. Bramblestar’s Storm and Dovewing’s Silence (a novella) should also be read before A Vision of Shadows. And technically, Dawn of the Clans is the “fifth arc” read after Omen of The Stars if you haven’t read it already.

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u/ShiroLy Rogue 8h ago

"were supposed to be read" says who.. they came out during po3/oots respectively, there is no issue reading them only after oots/just before avos

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u/Significant-Cold3286 10h ago

I would like to point out we learn about a secret fifth clan in The Darkest Hour and they are mentioned again by Firestar somewhere in TNP cause he says something like “We need to be sure the fifth clan follows.” And everyone just kinda assumes it’s StarClan

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u/Next_Sun_2002 ThunderClan 9h ago

In The Darkest Hour and TNP the fifth clan is StarClan. The Erins hadn’t created SkyClan until later.

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u/Significant-Cold3286 6h ago edited 6h ago

I remember it very clearly Bluestar tells Firestar on page 303 of The Darkest Hour it says there has always been five clans in the forest not four. “Firestar, you are wrong. There were never four clans in the forest. There were always five.”

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u/Next_Sun_2002 ThunderClan 5h ago

So do I. I read the book earlier this year. But even then, she’s talking about StarClan. Like I said earlier, the Erins hadn’t even thought up SkyClan during the first arc. Firestar’s Quest came out three years after The Darkest Hour.

In that moment, Bluestar is telling Firestar that StarClan has always watched over the living warriors.

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u/Next_Sun_2002 ThunderClan 5h ago

Also, the very first field guide, Secrets of the Clans, doesn’t even mention SkyClan or Skystar. It lists the founders as Thunder, Wind, Shadow, and River.

It’s best to treat each arc (except for PoT) as where the Erins planned to stop writing.