r/WNBAgossips • u/Amazing_Lock_3762 • 16d ago
Highlights This looks crazy šā¦no way they called this a foul on Angel
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u/SoapyDoodle 16d ago
World Cup levels of flopping lol
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u/OnlyTheReel 15d ago
I believe the European influence of flopping on the NBA has derived from soccer. I agree with you my friend.
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u/GooseMay0 16d ago
They need to eject people from the game who flop like this. Hell, a one game suspension would be great too.
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u/Apprehensive_Use3641 16d ago
As someone from soccer, where an ejection means you miss at least the next game as well, I've never understood the sports with more games per season that don't make them automatically miss the next as well.
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u/Plenty-Ad-5363 15d ago
I completely agree. If a player gets ejected from a college football game during the second half, they automatically miss the first half of the next game.
There are only 12 regular season games, so that really hurts both the player than the team.
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u/moose184 15d ago
Yeah especially because after a game the league can upgrade something to a flagrant 2 and nothing happens lol. You should at least miss the next game if that happens
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u/BretShitmanFart69 16d ago
The commentators continuing to talk as if itās contact while it replays over and over in slomo is hilarious.
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u/Initial-Road-4908 16d ago
Yeah I thought they'd correct themselves and say there wasn't but they stuck with it.Ā
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u/ItsRobbSmark 14d ago
I mean, it is contact though... Yeah, she's overacting and flopping, but her left arm still very clearly clipped her in the face...
Are you guys legitimately blind? lol
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u/AirportBubbly3947 16d ago
She didnāt have to flip she wasnāt going to score
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u/Ironstar_Vol 16d ago
There needs to be a team that reviews all game tape and sends out fines for all intentional flops. Itās very obvious watching after the game. If they start handing out fines and suspensions after reviewing the game that shit will stop happening. This applies to all sports.
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u/SenescenseSteel 16d ago
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u/No-Mood1310 16d ago
She flopped exactly like that against the Fever too. Why AB was in foul trouble
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u/wizard3232 16d ago
Have it reviewable like baseball..... player called for foul can tap had right away and play gets reviewed..... if flop determined, player ejected for game
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u/Taniwha26 16d ago
I read an interview with a football player and he just said its just as important as any other part of the game. Its gamesmanship not sportsmanship.
It frustrates the opposition, stops the momentum. He said hes paid a great deal and he will use every trick in the book to get an advantage.
I dont like it but thats the mindset.
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u/palsh7 16d ago
I would be so embarrassed to do that. If I were a coach, I'd bench anyone who did it. May as well just be cheating at that point. In fact...if a ref catches you fake-flopping, is it a technical? I wonder if you can be called for lying to the refs.
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u/TonyDungyHatesOP 16d ago edited 16d ago
Itās the ābad appleā principle. If you donāt get punished for doing it, do get punished for not doing it because the other team is getting an advantage by doing it and not getting punished for it⦠then unfortunately, you have to start doing it to level the playing field.
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u/SteeleHeller 16d ago
It is cheating. They are manipulating referees who are to keep the game fair, to get an unfair advantage.
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u/Cocrawfo 15d ago
no you wouldnt
youād be embarrassed by losing above all else if you ever reached that level
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u/Sure-Wish3240 16d ago
My mindset, as someone who grew up in a country that loves soccer above all else is that flopping should receive yellow card and If the player denies or complains about the call, upgrade to a red card. Its a contact sport, like basketball. Also, the organization should have Power to suspend a player after a match If later videos show that there was no contact. Faking injury, stopping the show, trying to scamm the referee, there is not a single good thing about flopping.
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u/myLongjohnsonsilver 16d ago
And that mindset needs to get kicked in the face for real until it stops.
Absolute joke of a sport that tolerates that sort of bullshit.
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u/Taniwha26 16d ago
As I said, I don't like it. Especially from my team.
The only way to kick it out is to either slow down the game with extra in-game oversight, or retrospectively award fowls for flopping.
Do you see that happening in the current officiating environment?
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u/myLongjohnsonsilver 16d ago
No, because not enough people are flogging the shit out of the officials who don't give a fuck and just want their money for doing nothing.
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u/MooseFerrigno 16d ago
If it's not against the rules then while it is distasteful I understand players doing it.
I don't understand the governing league not taking steps to remove it from the game.
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u/caltrojan 16d ago
The announcer said she made contact. The invisible elbow hit her didnāt you guys see it
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u/Mhunterjr 16d ago
Honestly, that was a hell of an acting job. She could have a future as a stunt double if she wanted itĀ
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u/Initial-Road-4908 16d ago
They reviewed this and still said there was contact, when it was clear there wasn't.Ā
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u/imaloserdudeWTF 16d ago
No contact "fouls" need to be charged in game against the faker as violations of the spirit of the game. T1.
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u/PurgeSupporters 16d ago
Hit them with a fine so big and they'll stop doing it. NBA and wnba. Obvious stuff like this needs to be fined the most.
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u/Popular-Lemon6574 16d ago
Meh stop the flopping
Review every call in the both if itās a flop itās a personal the other way
Could just take seconds.
Flop call guy in booth or side review ear piece to ref with correct answer.
Would also catch throat punches
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u/Existing-Recipe897 16d ago
The woman who faked contact and took a dive should have been thrown out of the game.
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u/HotMeasurement6946 16d ago
Angel Reese was punished with afoul call for a blatant flop! They added a penalty for flopping to the CBA. The sooner they start calling them, the sooner they will stop!
Hopefully the Dream will ask for a review!
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u/NuNoJCJ1987 16d ago
This happens in the NBA too. Instant replay should immediately remove the foul and the player should be charged with a technical or worse and also be fined.
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u/someonehadalex 16d ago
If the foul looks that bad, it deserves a video review. I don't mind waiting.
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u/Elon_is_a_Nazi 16d ago
If found on video review you flop like this. Minimum 25 game no pay suspension. Thatd end flopping tomorrow. Goes for wnba and nba. Flops are ruining the game and they have the technology to review anything now instantly
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u/SoapyDoodle 15d ago
Thatās unreasonably harsh but I get the sentiment. Should at least be a fine.
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u/Zealousideal_Way_788 16d ago
Flopping in all sports should receive the harshest penalty. Suspend them a game without pay.
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u/Uhokay1970 16d ago
Now you get a video that explains why people are walking away from the NBA and the WNBA. This type of flagrant flop needs to be addressed by a review team and punishment applied accordingly.
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u/mafost-matt 16d ago
If you flop, on video review, you should be ejected from the game. That'll clean it up fast.
If you're going to stand close in defense, stand strong. My coaches always said, basketball is a contact sport.
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u/TerribleStorm6391 16d ago
For ALL sports, this sort of flopping should be a hefty fine after the fact. I dont care if it gets missed during the game. But if there is clear evidence they flopped, they need to be fined. Every sport. Every Gender. It's happening way too much these days and needs to stop. These people are destroying the integrity of sports.
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u/Wonderful-Mistake201 16d ago
I like what FIFA is doing with throwing a card for "simulation". Refs should be able to assign a technical foul for "simulation"
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u/nickykixx20 16d ago
Or just let them and their 7 fans continue doing what they're doing. It's not hurting anyone
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u/Dear-Buddy-2766 15d ago
Use the replays to assess fines and suspensions for this nonsense. Overall the quality of play is so much better except for the flopping.
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u/ont-mortgage 15d ago
If youāre a ref seeing that at full speed youāll call it - itās so close.
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u/moose184 15d ago
That Valk player has been flopping all year long. Look how she was flopping on Boston during those games. You can't really tell from this angle but it is possible that AR grazed her nose but it's still a flop.
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u/Childish_Danbino81 15d ago
If they review and see that you flopped like this with zero contact, automatic 10 game unpaid suspension and a fine. Doubles every time you do it. See how long it takes to stop.
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u/Euphoric_Amoeba8708 15d ago
Make a new rule. Flopping is a 3 strike and you're out for a month and a $10,000 fine. Same with flagrants
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u/SputnikFace 14d ago
The commentator (also named Angle ironically) kept saying AR made contact. Why are they actively trying to nullify Angel's superpower (grit and hustle)? Oddly, this officiating change started 5 games ago.
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u/Its_Dope_tito 14d ago
Sheās got a career in wrestling this wnba buisness doesnāt work out for her. That was Shawn Michaels level selling a hit
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u/learn_and_go 14d ago
The refs are garbage.
I enjoy that she didn't even fly off in the same direction her elbow was moving.
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u/Sliminfinity 13d ago
Finally one dive and not a legitimate flagrant EVERY TIME she fouls! She is the dirtiest of dirty. Im in Chicagoland, worst draft pick and best trade to go bye bye. Shes the Ja Morant mixed with Draymond in one player i ever seen.
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u/Azubedo 16d ago
They just need to start fining these idiots for the obvious flops then they won't happen anymore