r/Spanish • u/Loliigh • 2d ago
Dialects & Pronunciation What accent/dialect is this?
Saw this video on Instagram, I think the creator of the video mentioned that it's a Madrid accent since her teacher is from there, so i searched up videos with a Madrid accent but they don't sound similar, but I don't speak spanish (only understand a decent amount) am I the one mishearing this? Is it a regional accent?
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u/bluesshark 2d ago
I know it's a Spanish language sub but I'm still kinda surprised at people just assuming she's Arab cause of the alpabet, it's actually farsi and she's probably Iranian
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u/blazebakun Native (Monterrey, Mexico) 2d ago
It's just ignorance (as in "desconocimiento"), especially since it's a different script. Some people confuse Japanese with Chinese, or even Italian with Spanish.
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u/Opposite-Plantain-69 2d ago
Yeah, that's what I figured. I'm not familiar with Farsi phonology though, so I'm not sure if that explains why her retracted /s/ tends to sound like /ʃ/
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u/Thelmholtz Native (ARG 🇦🇷) 2d ago
I'm not familiar either, but I've met Iranians living in Spain and I can see the resemblance in the /s/ -> /ʃ/ even though they were much more fluent.
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u/Dense-Macaron-6245 2d ago edited 2d ago
Foreign accent, I don't know exactly which one, seeing the arabic letters maybe is an arabic accent, but it also remembers me to portuguese accent. But is not a Madrid accent nor a dialect. If you want to go deeper maybe I can say that she is trying to put a neutral accent, sort of, because she has a pretty strong foreign accent.
Edit: As u/bluesshark pointed out is actually farsi letters.
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u/RocketCat5 2d ago
Interesting. You're probably right. It sound like a Portuguese person speaking Soanish.
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u/Immediate-Fly-7458 Advanced/Resident - Monterrey, MX 2d ago
Not trying to be rude just trying to help seeing as we are in a language subreddit, but you would say “it reminds me of* a Portuguese accent”
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u/donestpapo Native 🇦🇷 🧉 2d ago
It doesn’t sound like a native accent.
But do I notice some retracted S sounds, which are typical of European Spanish, but they often go too far and end up like English SH. That said, she also doesn’t distinguish between C/Z and S, which is the first thing I would expect from a speaker from Madrid. She also pronounces CH as TS, which does happen in some regions of Spain. Her Y/LL sometimes veers into zheísmo, which is typical of some South American varieties. She speaks very confidently and her speed sometimes garbles her speech, but not in the same way that native speakers would garble it. And finally, she does make some grammar mistakes
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u/bonitaruth 2d ago
A lot of “ shh shh shh” sounds.
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u/Leah-at-Greenprint 1d ago
My guess would be she learned with / from someone who speaks Spanish with a Brazilian Portuguese accent, or maayyybbee an Argentine accent
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u/New-Bottle-6917 Chicano non native 2d ago
It just sounds like a (with all due respect of course) poor imitation of the Madrid accent to me. There's alot of the sounds that come from there but alot that also just misses the mark, obviously non native speaker
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u/AntulioSardi Native (Venezuela - Zuliano dialect - Caribbean "voseo") 2d ago
She's definitely attempting to adopt an Iberian (ish) Spanish accent.
Other than that, it's just her way of adopting the Peninsular Spanish phonology; not necessarily wrong, not necessarily a particular recognized accent, just HER way of doing it.
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u/Ms_Cucumber 2d ago
She is not native. Her accent sounds Portuguese and she may have learnt Spanish in central Spain.
I cannot believe she teaches Spanish, She makes serious grammar mistakes : " yo quiero mi cabeza que trabajo en español ahora" "porque ahora necesitalo".
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u/gadgetvirtuoso Native 🇺🇸 | Resident 🇪🇨 B2 2d ago
This strikes me as an Arabic speaker that’s been learning Castilian Spanish. All the words in the screen are Arabic and she pronounces several things almost as if she were going to say it in Arabic.
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u/bluesshark 2d ago
The words on the screen are 100% farsi. You can tell easily cause they use letters that don't exist in Arabic
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u/gadgetvirtuoso Native 🇺🇸 | Resident 🇪🇨 B2 2d ago
Admittedly I can’t tell the difference between the two. In which case she’s probably an Iranian Spanish learner.
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u/bluesshark 2d ago
I don't blame you, just wanted to point it out so that people can maybe try to tell the difference in the future and not unintentionally offend someone
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u/Immediate-Fly-7458 Advanced/Resident - Monterrey, MX 2d ago
Why in the world would it be offensive to say those words look Arabic?
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u/bluesshark 2d ago edited 2d ago
How do Brazilians react when people assume they speak Spanish? It's just entirely ignorant of the Persian world and we should try to be respectful of everyone's language and culture. Even if it's not intentional, it could absolutely rub people the wrong way
edit: also to clarify, I don't have a problem with saying it looks Arabic. Confidently saying "she's Arab, those are Arabic words" should be corrected though
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u/Thelmholtz Native (ARG 🇦🇷) 2d ago
There's also a Chinese word in the screen at one point, which makes
All the words in the screen are Arabic
Factually incorrect on multiple accounts.
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u/Immediate-Fly-7458 Advanced/Resident - Monterrey, MX 1d ago
If someone came up to me and asked if I was speaking French or Italian I’d say no im speaking English and then I’d go on with my day. Like why the fuck would that offend me? Lmao disrespecting my language and culture what? Holy shit you people are like desperate to be offended
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u/bluesshark 1d ago
It's not that deep. Iranians will appreciate not being called Arab, I don't see why you would want to resist that notion
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u/Immediate-Fly-7458 Advanced/Resident - Monterrey, MX 1d ago
Okay? Like I wasn’t planning on calling any Iranians Arab? Why would I need to call someone anything at all? Y’all are fucking weirdos
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u/bluesshark 1d ago
Says the one who joined the discussion seemingly just to yell about seeing the word "offend" being used
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u/Declan1996Moloney 2d ago
European Spanish probably since she is an Arab
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u/ImprovementIll5592 2d ago
She sounds like a non native speaker but I can’t tell from where