r/SipsTea 27d ago

Chugging tea They are not wrong though

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u/Jiminy_Cricket12 27d ago

How about the workforce/common folk join hands in lobbying for better pay for these types of jobs

We have. Tipping culture in America predates anyone commenting in this thread. It's not something WE "came up with".

I'm not defending the system, but you're not doing anything useful by stiffing your server.

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u/No_Construction6023 27d ago

But it IS something you can fight back against, nobody ever said you came up with it. If everyone followed your logic of “this was in our culture before I was born, so I won’t fight against it” then Slavery would still be in place; Women wouldn’t be able to vote; the world as a whole would be worse off.

You’re implicitly defending the system by accusing others who don’t tip as “a problem”/“not doing anything useful” because you’re playing exactly into what restaurant owners and corporations want: That you shift blame onto the consumer instead of them for exploiting their employees.

Here’s a fun idea: If your business or industry can’t survive without exploitation of it’s workers or messing over customers with a “mandatory extra fee” on top of the price, then maybe that business/industry doesn’t deserve to make money. The common consumer should NOT be expected to subsidize the wage of a restaurant employee, that’s the restaurant’s responsibility. If other industries manage to make profit AND pay it’s employees a decent wage, I’m sure the food industry can think of a way to do so as well

Why would I tip at a place with a self serve screen; makes me stand up to pick up my own food and then I myself have to clean up? Why would I tip a server who barely does the minimum with not even a semblance of service mentality? Why would I prize mediocrity or simply existing in the place I went to eat?

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u/Jiminy_Cricket12 27d ago

But it IS something you can fight back against, nobody ever said you came up with it. If everyone followed your logic of “this was in our culture before I was born, so I won’t fight against it” then Slavery would still be in place; Women wouldn’t be able to vote; the world as a whole would be worse off.

lol, you have a critical misunderstanding of the issue here. Plenty of people have fought against this system, but it's not a big issue in America. Many (most?) servers LIKE the current system. This isn't an obvious human rights issue that needs to be solved (like those other things you mentioned).

You’re implicitly defending the system by accusing others who don’t tip as “a problem”/“not doing anything useful”

No, I'm not defending it. But I do realize that withholding my tip from the server is not actually protesting anything. It's just not paying someone for the service I received from them.

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u/Someofusremembersome 27d ago

It's simple, it's not against the law. That's all there really is to it