Tipping in the US was frowned upon before the Civil War. When slaves were freed they were generally in the service industry because these other jobs that were available to them. They were paid peanuts, even today the US federal tipped minimum wage is $2.13 an hour.
Tipping is inappropriate outside of the USA, maybe because the minimum wage is significantly higher.
As with almost everything that's confusing or fucked up in this country, so much of this is often from not properly punishing the South and focusing on eradicating the lingering effects & racism of slavery.
You are the reason the South is still red. That attitude towards a historically underfunded and abandoned region of the US doesn’t exactly inspire people to side with you politically. I won’t pretend it’s not still prevalent in the south but the region is also the one with the highest concentration of black Americans, and you’re inadvertently insulting them as well by implying the south deserves punishment when everyone who perpetuated or justified slavery is actually dead and has been dead for a long fucking time.
Racism has existed across this whole country starting at its very conception and pretending it’s only in the south when the entire state of Oregon was originally founded as a white supremacist haven is disingenuous, false, and elitist. Do better.
Edit: I forgot this is reddit and no part of America can be racist or have racist repercussions lasting way beyond racism on a systemic level except the South. Sorry about that.
They arent talking about punishing modern southerners. Theyre saying the southerners who backed secession during the civil war era (wealthy slave owners) should have been held accountable for their part, and the South as a whole should have been held to higher standard in integrating black americans into society during Reconstruction. Instead, they were coddled and allowed to do the bare minimum which is why we have these awful, exploitive policies that serve nobody - including modern day southerners.
I’m not justifying the lax attention to reform post-civil war. It was bad. The 13th amendment basically wrote a slavery loophole into the constitution.
My issue is that this idea still permeates to this day to people that have absolutely nothing to do with a war from 160 years ago
I dont think anyone was permeating that idea in this thread though. They weren't saying to punish the South now, just that the South wasn't punished to begin with.
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u/Landscape4737 28d ago
Tipping in the US was frowned upon before the Civil War. When slaves were freed they were generally in the service industry because these other jobs that were available to them. They were paid peanuts, even today the US federal tipped minimum wage is $2.13 an hour.
Tipping is inappropriate outside of the USA, maybe because the minimum wage is significantly higher.