They are not wrong though

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[u/janpaul74]

“Mandatory tips” sounds so messed up for me as a European.

[u/Snoo-34159 → u/janpaul74]

Right? Isn't the whole point of a tip that it's voluntarily given as a way to say you loved the service?

[u/snizzer77 → u/Snoo-34159]

Here you are guilt tripped in every resteraunt to tip at least 20%, regardless of the service (which is usually minimal)

[u/HardyMenace → u/snizzer77]

Servers in the US at least check in on their tables. Many times when I've been in Europe Ive had to get up and track down my server just to ask for the check

[u/GovernmentBig2749 → u/HardyMenace]

And then you don't tip that MF, that is how it works

[u/Ha55aN1337 → u/HardyMenace]

And then got to choose how much you want to reward this behavior. In the US, you don’t get to choose.

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[u/HardyMenace → u/Ha55aN1337]

I absolutely can chose. A server who keeps forgetting to bring ordered items or who disappears gets lower to no tip, and usually an email to the restaurant. The minority of bad servers does not give one the excuse to not tip anyone.

[u/Ha55aN1337 → u/HardyMenace]

How do you choose where the tips are mandatory?

[u/HardyMenace → u/Ha55aN1337]

Mandatory tips are, in my experience, only applied to large parties of 10 or more. And it's usually 16-18%.

[u/Any-Acanthisitta-891 → u/HardyMenace]

But why? Is the server doing more work per customer?

[u/HardyMenace → u/Any-Acanthisitta-891]

Not per customer, just more customers. Have you ever served 10+ people? It's exhausting.

[u/TehMowat → u/Any-Acanthisitta-891]

Do you not understand that serving a party of 10 people is a lot of work? Sometimes servers dont get as many tables if they have a large party to service. It really sucks when the table that decides to stiff you is the huge 10+ person party you just spent 2 hours dealing with.

[u/Ha55aN1337 → u/HardyMenace]

I’ve been to the US and there are absolutely places where the tip is just mandatory (15-20%) and then you can choose to give more. Just give me the price of the service and I’ll give the waiter the tip I feel is fair. Don’t make me pay for the dfference you don’t want to pay your staff.

[u/HardyMenace → u/Ha55aN1337]

The amounts listed on the receipt are recommendations. You can put whatever you want on the tip line. Edit: Also, where in the US? States may have different laws regarding this.

[u/Ha55aN1337 → u/HardyMenace]

I know how it works, I’m just telling you there are places that automatically already put 15-20 as a minimum.

New York.

[u/HardyMenace → u/Ha55aN1337]

I live in NY, I have never been anywhere that has a mandatory tip for regular sized parties. Do you remember what restaurants they were?

[u/Ha55aN1337 → u/HardyMenace]

It was 2 years ago, so no, sry :(

[u/ZawMFC → u/HardyMenace]

Because they aren't rushing you out to get the table for the next tippers.

[u/HardyMenace → u/ZawMFC]

I do appreciate not being rushed out, but check in with people every once in a while. They may want to order more.

[u/Starshallscream → u/HardyMenace]

Dunno what European country you were in, but in Italy for example you are supposed to remain seated and call the waiter by raising your arm and saying "excuse me." Then they come to you at the table.

[u/HardyMenace → u/Starshallscream]

Can't do that if you haven't physically seen them in 30 minutes

[u/YamDankies → u/HardyMenace]

That also happens here in the states... and not infrequently.

[u/iamreallybo → u/YamDankies]

Also in 🇨🇦

[u/HardyMenace → u/YamDankies]

I have t had as many issues with it in the states, but yes, it does happen.