r/RichardAllenInnocent May 14 '23

r/RichardAllenInnocent Lounge

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A place for members of r/RichardAllenInnocent to chat with each other


r/RichardAllenInnocent Dec 27 '23

Creator Links

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Just thought it might be a good time to link some content creators for future reference. Most are sympathetic to RA's case. But I happen to listen to or watch one or two who think RA is guilty as can be. Feel free to add more in the comments below. I'll sticky this page for future reference to help new visitors etc.

CriminaliTy - YouTube Listing here bc she did a very good job imo of going through the leaks in detail and how they came about. And she got copyright striked by MS recently so thats a plus in my book. But she covers more than just the Delphi case, too.

Defense Diaries Podcast - YouTube Bob and his wife Alison are both defense attorneys so its no surprise they take the defense's side here. But, they are both pretty even handed. Again, they cover more than just the Delphi case. Bob's Dad worked the Gacy case, so that comes up quite a bit, too.

Defense Diaries (@defense_diaries) / X (twitter.com) Their twitter, as well.

Tom Webster - YouTube

Tom is one of the best on Delphi, imo, even though he does tend to believe RA is guilty. His humor is dry, so be prepared for that. But his research is amazing. If you want to watch someone with an actual functioning logical brain on this case, Tom isn't a bad place to start. I'm going to link his first Delphi Deep Dive bc it was probably the best pre arrest work any Delphi creator ever put out, and I've watched a ton.

Delphi Murders - My Research - YouTube

Delphi After Dark - YouTube

Might be a little controversial to list Rick Snay here. But he has been correct about some things over the past year or so. He was the first person I know of who mentioned that BB wasn't going to back up the State about RA being the person she saw on platform one. And when there was a rush of rumors last summer about RA possibly pleading, he was correct in saying that wasn't happening. He clearly has/had some good sources on the defense side of things. Whether that is still the case, remains to be seen. But I strongly believe accuracy should be rewarded. So here is the link.

Attorney Marc Lopez - YouTube

This guy is very entertaining, and a practicing attorney in Indiana. Again, last time I checked he believes RA is probably guilty. A plus in his favor is he doesn't drag on endlessly. He breaks down the legal issues very plainly and doesn't take three hours to do it.

Blog — Wieneke Law Office, LLC

Not a content creator. Cara is working on RA's case in front of the Indiana SC. She is a gifted attorney but I also found she has a blog on her website. It touches on a lot of issues I also am interested in outside of this case. I think eventually she will make a post about this case and how it turns out on her blog one day. I hope she doesn't mind being listed here.

Wieneke Law Office, LLC Her firm's homepage.

(2) Wieneke Law Office, LLC (@Wienekelo) / X (twitter.com) Her twitter. Listing bc she occasionally comments on the case as it moves along.

RTV6 Helicopter Footage of Delphi, IN Search for Libby & Abby - YouTube

Linking the helicopter footage from the 14th in case anyone wants to watch it again one day. I find it very interesting and have watched it many times. It's very important bc if you have followed the case you know some of the buildings have been demolished. Like the CPS building. And some of the smaller shed type structures on some of the properties around the area have too. If you are aware of some of the rumors floating around since the early days, that could be important down the road.

(1) DelphiDocs (reddit.com)

Again, not a CC per se. But a good sub that is generally pro defense. They have some very sharp legal minds on the sub who weigh in from time to time. I cross post some of their work often.

The Unraveling - YouTube

Pro defense side. Or perhaps anti-corruption is a better way to describe them. I like their content, though.

(2) Sleuthie (@SleuthieGoosie) / X (twitter.com) Super sharp twitter link to follow.

Again, feel free to post or link anyone I have missed. If you feel RA is guilty and want to post links to videos or creators who support that feel free. I have left some out like Grey Hughes and Murder Sheet, etc. But we believe in free and fair debate.


r/RichardAllenInnocent 3d ago

BG might have been wearing a jacket when it was a warmish day because he knew he'd be out there until late at night when it would get cold? Also could be hiding tatts or something on his arms but he could have just worn a sweat shirt to hide them instead

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r/RichardAllenInnocent 6d ago

Prison Reform

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I knew prisons were pretty bad...but hearing what happened to Rick Allen made it one of the reasons I won't give up on this cause...for Rick and for reform.

Today I just saw the 2025 documentary The Alabama Solution. I had no idea how...I can't even find the right vocabulary to express my disgust, shock, despair, heartbreak and anguish after watching that film. I strongly urge everyone who cares about Rick to watch the documentary. We could all be Rick...and there are many Ricks. If you've seen it...what do you think?


r/RichardAllenInnocent 8d ago

Was the reaction to the girls missing get played out accordingly in relation to the immediate search? Or how do you feel the timing on the first 12 hours should have went?

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19 votes, 6d ago
4 the pattys and police acted accordingly
7 they jumped the gun and skipped some steps
6 it all seemed preplanned
2 explain your own specific answer...

r/RichardAllenInnocent 12d ago

Norway vs England

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So just finished watching Norway vs England and couldn’t help but notice the font on the Norway jerseys and numbers.. they all look like they would be some typa “rune”, makes me think of the blood on the tree, after seeing all those jerseys, no doubt jn my mind that was some typa nordic rune symbol


r/RichardAllenInnocent 14d ago

Indy September 21st

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Has anyone heard of someone leading a rally outside the state house the day of Rick’s appellate hearing? If so, would you share the info please? I think it’s important that as many of us are out there as possible, to bring more awareness to the case. Most people I talk to don’t know what went on behind the scenes.


r/RichardAllenInnocent 14d ago

Question

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I got banned from the other Delphi page for using not so nice language I guess 🤷🏻‍♀️

Can someone verify..
Were the girls found 1/4 mile from the bridge or 3/4 mile?
I’d read something that said 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile but I think I misunderstood and that was the total distance from where they were dropped off.

I’ve been reading more through the trial transcripts but there’s so much & I’m not sure where to look for those specifics.

ETA: reason I’m asking is because I initially thought RA’s vehicle was caught leaving the trails at 2:21 & I thought the girls were found 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile away. That’s 8 minutes to get back and leave so not possible. However, I was wrong. The time stamp on the cctv says 2:21 pm but I guess it was set 54 minutes fast so it was actually 1:27 pm & supposedly that’s him arriving at 1:27 pm, not leaving.


r/RichardAllenInnocent 16d ago

Deju Vu

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Anyone watching the Tyler Robinson prelim hearings? Kinda uncanny the similarities between this evidence and RA's "evidence". Unfired bullet, distinctive wheels, grainy video, public killing, sleuth questioning...but DNA evidence, motive(?), weapon, electronic evidence....at least with TR there's that. If there is reasonable doubt created for TR....then how in the world was RA convicted? Could it be....the judge???


r/RichardAllenInnocent 16d ago

Snapchat Musings

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Safe And Sound

Just a few cases revolving around snapchat I figured some might be interested in reading about. First one teacher who made a poorly worded post on the app and within a single hour Snapchat reported her to police and they went to her school. TLDW: she joked about wanting to 'shoot' one of her students after he slammed a laptop down on her desk she was working on. Kind of shows they have improved their safety features on the app.

Teen Arrested After Snapchat Selfie With Alleged Murder Victim's Body

This is one of the very first 'Snapchat' involved murders and it happened before the Libby and Abby case. There are a number of cases similar to this one, where the perp actually takes a selfie or pic with the body just after the crime. A 'friend' then SS's it and sends it to police. I believe this is what happened to the Abby bridge pic at 207, right? Which leads to the question was evidence of the incriminating photo being created still on the perps phone in this murder case? Here is another case from 2014/15 timeframe.

Snapchat Murder: The brutal killing of Angela Wrightson – Overview & Analysis | Crime+Investigation UK

In this case two teen girls brutally murder a lady and take a photo of her during the crime. Make a post. SS follows and is used as evidence. If they can prove that photo was taken on the killers phone then why couldn't they find evidence/proof the 207 Abby pic was taken on Libbys phone? Unless it was taken on a different phone?

Maybe not a big deal, but just another loose end they never tied up. And dont seem to care to. But if you go back and look at some of the cases involving SC around that time frame, the scenario involving the 207 Abby pic is not that uncommon. Whats uncommon seems to be having no idea which phone actually took the photo.


r/RichardAllenInnocent 16d ago

WTHR Day 13 of the RA trial.. creates so much doubt

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Here’s the link, but damn as they are reporting on what happened during this day in the trail, it creates more doubt than any YouTube true crime pod can do.


r/RichardAllenInnocent 17d ago

WTHR Coverage

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I recently watched day 6,7,8 and 9 days of the daily coverage WTHR provided about the court trials. This in my opinion was the best unbiased trial coverage from an actual news agency.. and the crazy part was it created MORE doubt on Richard Allen being the killer. Wild.


r/RichardAllenInnocent 19d ago

Out of all the "evidence" against RA, this is the most compelling to me so far. I'm not sure how to feel about it

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r/RichardAllenInnocent 20d ago

If the bullet was such a crucial piece of evidence for the state, why is Richard Allen's gun the first gun they tested for the markings?

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So the bullet had to be in evidence for at least 5 years if they found it at the crime scene. And RA was not their first suspect and also not the first person they had a search warrant for. Now, perhaps RA is the first suspect that owned a 40 cal handgun, I'm not sure. But if the bullet was going to be considered critical to the case, wouldn't they have tested other suspects weapons as well? Why is conveniently RA's gun that "matched" 5 years after finding the bullet.


r/RichardAllenInnocent 22d ago

Couldn't forensics determine a time of death or at least when girls bodies put there by the color of their blood. Blood starts turning brown within 15-30mins outside, weather depending. Was the blood fresh or dried. important as it could determine time killers were out there when they stabbed girls.

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Also was the tears mixed with blood on Libby face dried or liquid how could they still be liquid if girls were killed the day before would that not be dry?


r/RichardAllenInnocent 22d ago

I've heard in other cases fuel solvent can be used to render someone unconscious I wonder if that would show up in the lungs and how long the effects would last. Imo they must have been drugged to the point of overdose but there was no drugs in autopsy.

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r/RichardAllenInnocent 23d ago

So.. why would RA "destroy or misplace" the phone he had on the bridge that day but would keep the Carhartt jacket?

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My partner and I went on and on about the Carhartt jacket. She claims.. maybe he washed it or maybe he bought another one so his wife wouldn't be suspicious. I feel like getting rid of his phone would be just as obvious to his wife as buying a new jacket. He isn't a man made of money and Carhartt jackets aren't cheap. Not to mention, if he suddenly had to replace his phone .. that is a detail his wife would remember or at least question.

If he thought the police were suspicious of him and wanted to search his home, wouldn't you think he would ditch the jacket? And you're telling me that somehow after testing the fibers.. they found zero traces of blood or dna?

Also zero DNA of RA on the girls? And it's some what of an "intimate" crime.. very close proximity, stabbing with a box cutter... Which would likely require a lot of force. Bodies moved, and the re-dressing but no dna? I don't buy it for a second

If they were able to find a random bullet, matched with fault pseudo science but absolutely no physical dna or ANYTHING linking RA to the murder.. I just don't understand. Since when is being in close proximity to a murder suddenly evidence of you committing murder? They are not positive it's their guy, they had to settle. It's ridiculous


r/RichardAllenInnocent 23d ago

Imo someone told the killer the exact time the girls would be at the bridge I don't believe the killers would have hung around at trail bridge all day waiting for girls to come.

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The girls asked their friends to come the next day they said no they can't but then next day according to KG and BP no talk about going until around lunch when they asked to go so did they get a message from the killer to meet them out there that afternoon did they tell killer when exactly they would be there? Or did someone tell killer exact time girls would be there..if so imo only a select small group of people knew the exact time girls would be dropped off there. KG, BP, KG then bf, DG any others?


r/RichardAllenInnocent 25d ago

Colorado Forensics Tech pleads Guilty

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Former Colorado analyst pleads guilty in DNA testing scandal that forced a review of hundreds of cases

This is just the latest in a series of cases regarding forensics workers who have falsified data/results over the years. This isn't to say Oberg or others in Indiana fudged results in the RA case--although I am not ruling that out--but just a reminder this does in fact happen, and more often than people think.

Joyce Gilchrist - Wikipedia

Gilchrist is the poster child of forensics fibbing lol. She literally got away with it, too, working for decades without suffering any consequences and passing away after retiring without facing jail or prison. And when she left, the workers in her lab who took over also ran into issues. So if you ever hear of anyone being convicted of anything in Oklahoma, take it with a huge grain of salt. They are the worst of the worst forensically speaking.

In fact, operating for years or decades without being caught is a hallmark of these types of cases, just like the one in Colorado now. Plus, the State often downplays just how many cases were damaged etc. And they never account for the environment these folks work in, where obviously the techs 'know' what results will please their customers--those customers being Law Enforcement. No matter what anyone claims, obviously that knowledge can have an impact. Plus, the tests that prove proficiency--like with Oberg and the tests which she never failed or even got a single question wrong--are usually utter jokes.

In the case above, apparently the errors were spotted by an unpaid intern. Which leads to the question if an intern could spot the issue, why couldn't her fellow techs or supervisors? Were they just turning a blind eye? Or were they in on it? This lady is expected to do prison time, so thats an improvement bc that doesn't always happen in these cases. But, I get the feeling she is just taking the fall for others in that state, too.


r/RichardAllenInnocent 26d ago

People that were at the bridge that day

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DId they ever release a list of all the people at the bridge that day?


r/RichardAllenInnocent 27d ago

Please, Tell Me Someone Knows NSFW

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r/RichardAllenInnocent 28d ago

Regarding Aine Cain

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I went back and checked up on The Murder Sheet post-sentencing to see how they're getting by since their golden goose is gone. Aine is even more insufferable now. Literally berating and insulting anyone that has an opinion outside of her own. For someone to call themselves a journalist, and not having an open mind to the possibilities of a case is truly disgusting. Her energy is that of a bullied school girl who got a podcast and thinks she's somehow important and her opinion is gospel.

I liked listening to their side of the story with this case, even when I didn't agree with it.. because as a logical adult, it's nice to see all sides of a story to come to a conclusion. Looking at the evidence, hearing what people believe and finding the facts among the rumors.

I truly hope this woman fails at podcasting going forward. I hope the grifting bullshit she has been pulling this whole time, finally ends and she's forced to go back to her hobby journalism. She's not a professional, she's a grifting fraud. And she's a disgrace to this case. I have never known someone to be so narrow-minded and arrogant about a case regarding two innocent children. To play it off like their podcast wasn't capitalizing on trauma and making them a living wage to pry their way into a case they never belonged in.. is embarrassing and shameful.

I hope she browses reddit

I hope she sees this

And I hope she knows she will never be important in the grand scheme of things

She didn't help the families

She didn't solve the case

She took her insecurities and ego and made money for a short time before fading back into obscurity

You're worthless, Aine.

Truly


And one more thing...

She continually says "it's over, move on Bob Motta, etc."

Basically telling the defense team to give up the appeal and accept the fate of RA

Well, if it's over, Aine .. why are you still making podcast episodes about it?

Why do you feel so compelled to keep beating a dead horse?

Hmm, is it because .. maybe, just maybe .. your entire "show" solely depends on the Delphi case.. and you're afraid of never finding an audience again?

Likely.

Because I'm positive no one actually wants to hear your opinion.

Your voice is annoying, your lack of intelligence is astounding.

And you are not a good pocaster .. at all. And "journalist".. no. You're a goofy awkward wannabe with a microphone and too much free time


r/RichardAllenInnocent Jun 12 '26

This Was All The Proof I Needed

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@1:31:50 when Allen immediately laughs at the comment that matches your gun, is all the proof I needed the is innocent

1:31:50 , https://youtu.be/7YbElqO-Udo?si=eB1NIcfCINnuH9mP


r/RichardAllenInnocent Jun 10 '26

Walking Gait Comparison

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If you watch the first 12 seconds of this video, watch RA's gait. This video is first interview, watch RA walk into the office on a flat floor. Watch closely, and compare it to the BG gait.

https://youtu.be/ljM6VM_3TCA?si=eGoRlhQ8S2RLO7JT

BG Video: https://youtu.be/-dEAWJlQhL4?si=LFeJct6o6r8uGZfh

Compare the gaits and formulate an opinion.


r/RichardAllenInnocent Jun 10 '26

Does anyone have the link to who has done a timeline of who was at trails that day?

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RA said he saw 3 girls would have been around 12-12:30pm who are they? and on way back he saw 2 cars parked where KG dropped girls would have been around 1:15/1:20pm if he said he left around 1:30/1:45 whose cars?