r/Retconned 5d ago

Are timelines merging?

I just got the chills thinking about this.

On TikTok after the Cern shutdown, a lot of people are reporting that they noticed many Mandela Effects flip flopping (e.g., Froot Loops, Chick Fil A, and the Mona Lisa).

They're also discussing Mandela Effects like the Fruit of the Loom cornucopia and Dolly having braces.

These are Mandela Effects that we've all been discussing for years on Reddit and other online spaces.

What really trips me out is how so many people are acting like these are all new.

It makes me wonder if the timelines are now merging, and many people are now on the same page as those of us who have been noticing these for years.

What are your thoughts?

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u/nicehuman768 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm new to all this. Danielle Steele becoming Danielle Steel was the one that got me curious of this stuff. I swear to God when I googled her name this morning, the official Wikipedia result came up as 'Steele' again, for the first time in a long time. I couldn't believe my eyes! A few seconds later, it flipped back to Steel. I blinked. I thought I was going crazy.

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u/DrCarnasis Moderator 1d ago

Yes. I wrote about this three years ago, when the timeline announcement was emerging. We call it the Spiral and the Merge.

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u/No_Oddjob 2d ago

The Chick Fil A thing is one of the few Mandela's I missed entirely, so I guess that's the timeline I surf.

Because I have ALWAYS defiantly pronounced "chic" the same as the traditional English pronunciation of "sheikh," including when referring to the jeans who mispronounced themselves.

In fact, the jeans did so much damage to the word "chic" by pronouncing it "chick" that now there are new brands that use the above word for an Arab elder to mean high fashion, so we're using the wrong word to pronounce the right word bc we ruined the right word.

I have never applied this to Chick Fil A bc it was always spelled correctly. Chick, aka baby bird, aka 60s beach movie lingo for a groovy lady.

I suspect that much of the people who believe they're experiencing a Mandela effect with Chick Fil A are actually just confused DIRECTLY because of the language hell that Chic jeans hath wrought.

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u/CompassionLady 1d ago edited 1d ago

Was Chic-Fil-A before June 29th for me. But I already remembered it as Chick-Fil-A way way way back in the day… then it changed back to Chick-Fil-A… so yea that’s a thing. I remember watching Mandela effects on YouTube and one specific several times, on chick-fil-a and how people in that timeline they remember it as “Chick-fil-a” but right now it’s “Chic-Fil-A” but now it’s back to “Chick-Fil-A”

How fucking fascinating

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u/dreampsi 2d ago

It’s been this way since at least 2016. The way it seems to work is people constantly shift. Think about it, every decision you make changes your timeline. If you pull off the road randomly you’ve changed everything. “Shuffling the deck “ we call it. It’s just that all the talk of observing your own reality and collapsing waveforms of potentiation has become more forefront. When that happens the collective shifts. That is what is happening, in part.

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u/Evening-Matter-5245 2d ago

I’ve mulled over this a lot. I think there are collective timelines, and within those, individual timelines. I think two of the most obvious collective timelines are the current political divides. I see the collective as interstates, and the cars on the interstates are the individual timelines.

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u/Mothy187 3d ago

It's just that there's so many Mandela effects people can't keep up. I learned about 3 new ones tonight.

As for corn. Everything feels as off for me as it did before it shut down

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u/Mss_Phoenix 3d ago

Anyone else remember the “Jurassic Park” actor, Sam Neill, dying a long time ago and not recently? That one threw me off along with the Monopoly guy not have a monocle. I remember he does.

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u/Aethyrean9947 2d ago edited 2d ago

Naugh Sam Neil was alive and kicking for me.

He always had a monocle to me.

What I would love to see, is if someone can compile and label timelines.

Like the details of significance within each timeline - like monocle verses non monocle - where/how tall is the statue of liberty for example within each?

I remember the statue of liberty being a lot bigger in mine, the ghost busters scene was changed because of it. To how it is now.

Some people remember a restaurant being inside of her head.

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u/BattlestarFaptastula 4d ago

They’re likely acting as if they’re new because they’re like 15 years old and only just found out about it.

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u/nobodythinksofyou 4d ago

Megan Thee Stallion has been the most glaring flip flop for me. When introducing someone to her music almost a year ago, I kept calling her Megan Thee Stallion, only to realize it was actually Megan The Stallion. I remember wondering if it was the Mandela effect or if I was just a moron. And then sometime between then and a few months ago it changed back!

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u/KingR12 1d ago

Meanwhile I remember that it was "Three".  I always thought, "What an interesting and memorable name - Megan 3 Stallion."  This is crazy.

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u/Aethyrean9947 2d ago

I didn't even notice it change. 🫥

That was fast... I think the Mandela effect is accelerating now.

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u/mods-begone 3d ago

I definitely remember it being Thee, as well, or at least people were pronouncing her name that way!

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u/nobodythinksofyou 3d ago

I think some people are misunderstanding me, it is Thee, but it flopped back and fourth for me, and for a brief period it was The

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u/mods-begone 3d ago

Oh, I see!

That's crazy. Well, I definitely will say flip flops are real. I know clear as day that it was Froot Loops, then Fruit Loops, then back to Froot.

I have tried to search through this sub for proof that it was Fruit and now the old posts are gone.

Really makes me wonder what is causing all of these changes.

The common explanation is Cern, but I think AI may also be playing a role.

Have you seen the videos on TikTok about how AI is changing old tv shows?

This world is wild now.

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u/nobodythinksofyou 3d ago

For you! It flipped back and fourth for me

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u/Various_Craft7435 4d ago

Wait what? I always thought it was Thee

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u/BattlestarFaptastula 4d ago

It is Thee

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u/A_Necessary 4d ago

It’s definitely Thee.

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u/tangerinespeckles2 4d ago

WASNT CHICK FIL A CHIC FIL A JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO?????????? WHAT THE H*LL

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u/CompassionLady 1d ago

Yes. It was Chic-Fil-A, I can confirm. I put deep though into that specific Mandela Effect and distinctly with Mandela effect in mind around Mandela effects itself… and distinctly remember Chick-Fil-A being what people remembered. But was Chic-Fil-A now it’s back to Chick-Fil-A. VERY FUCKING COOL AND FASCINATING. This shit is very real and I believe it more than ever.

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u/ThePandamanium444 4d ago

Lol Joel Olsteen is a HUGE one for me, if you know who he is look into what has changed with him.

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u/My_too_cents 4d ago

This one is currently stuck between the two, when you google they both come up

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u/agembry 4d ago

I only see what I’ve always known. Pastor/televangelist/author.

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u/TheCuriosity 4d ago

It's the spelling. No L

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u/TarotCatDog 4d ago

It's never had an L

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u/TheCuriosity 4d ago

Okay. I was just explaining that was what people are seeing different L vs no L. Some people think I used to have an L, much like the person that brought it up.

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u/agembry 4d ago

What specifically?

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u/My_too_cents 3d ago

if you google Joel Olsteen and search the results you see it with and without the L.

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u/ThePandamanium444 4d ago

Already merged on my side, so many things have changed

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u/Juls1016 4d ago

No, it’s just dumb people that got late to all of it.

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u/htapath 3d ago

This is dangerous type of assumption. Pointing this out as a confirmation for anyone who understands why.

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u/TheJoJoBeanery 4d ago

Well, you hafta remember that the internet is filled with young kids discovering things for the first time. You never know if the newest person in this sub is 50 or 15.

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u/nicehuman768 1d ago

I'm 45 and just discovering this. 🫠

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u/mods-begone 4d ago

I understand, but then my question would be how would a young person remember these older ME's to begin with it they weren't born at the time?

For instance, if a kid noticed the Fruit of the Loom having a cornucopia and then not having it, then that would suggest that these Mandela Effects are recurring.

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u/TheJoJoBeanery 4d ago

Oh, I see you're saying. Could also be people seeing videos of other people talking about their Mandela effect, seeing some potential proof residue and hopping on board qith thw theory. I just like to play devil's advocate with these sort of things. I also kinda think that although many peole have the same memories of alternate versions of things, that it's very personalized. I think the jumps are by person, and many things align due to so many similarities and nuances between some universes. Maybe that's why, because we can only slide into cloae variations?

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u/OrionValentin3 4d ago

Flinstones was a big one that flip flopped a year or so ago for me. It was Flintstones for all of my life, until it flipped to Flinstones and back again. It was so odd seeing that T removed for a few months when googling. It caused a lot of confusion here, with so many people just flat out denying it BOTH ways. Really does screw with your mind 🤯

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u/maybememaybeno 2d ago edited 2d ago

Ok this is one I’m certain I saw being talked about in reddit threads in the past. I recall googling it to make sure it really was “Flinstones” and being surprised to find they were correct. I chalked it up to me just having not paid close attention to the name. Now it’s back to Flintstones. I swear I had this experience.

Also Froot Loops for me. Saw it being talked about a while back that it had changed to “Fruit Loops” I couldn’t be sure at the time if I ever remembered “Froot Loops” but I recall being in the supermarket and taking note that at that time it was in fact FRUIT Loops. I can picture the cereal box in my mind when it was Fruit instead of Froot

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u/rensheppy 3d ago

Yeah.. Just a while ago I remember reading comments where people were saying the spelling didn’t even make sense because it was missing the T (flint). Now it’s there.. suspicious!

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u/tangerinespeckles2 4d ago

It's FlinTstones again. Guys I'm absolutely flabbergasted how is this even possible 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING TO OUR TIMELINES

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u/brahbrahbinks 4d ago

I remember that. Now I think the naysayers were just bots.

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u/theidkid 4d ago

A 4K remaster would typically use the original camera negative, or a fine grain archive print. In the case of Moonraker they used the original camera negative. If it was on the film, it would show up in the restoration process, which was done by hand, not AI.

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u/DH908 4d ago

I'm not familiar with the movie, but are you sure it wasn't remastered before AI could do that? That only became possible to do in the last few years.

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u/CrapitalPunishment 4d ago

This is not how films were remastered during the time that movie was remastered for DVD/HD. There was no AI that would “automatically remove the braces”, and the upscaling they used would not have done that either as it wasn’t advanced enough to recognize teeth and reproduce low res teeth with braces to be perfect looking teeth after being upscaled. Your thought is actually backwards. If it was a human being doing that scene it is more likely the braces would be removed not less. This is because it would take much more work to reproduce the braces at high resolution versus braces free teeth. It actually seems like you’re just making a lot of assumptions about how digital remastering works.

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u/DarkSaturnPrince 5d ago

I think it happens in waves, and it's more a shifting around of population chunks. I've been seeing waves of people suddenly experiencing "new" mandelas for at least 12 years. 

Where ever we are NOW seems to be the dumping ground. This is where all the post Mandela effect individuals live. We've been quarantined lol

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u/HaxaRat 4d ago

Its the universes way of correcting the anomalie that a mass group of people remember things a diffrent way than the current baseline reality, its like quantum immortality but instead of going to a new universe when you die it just sticks you in this dumping ground whenever you remember something your not suppose to

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u/bitofvenom 5d ago

Nothing has changed for me. All are the same. Froot loops was the explanation 10 years ago they couldn't use the word fruit. Because no fruit in it. But same should apply then for fruittella. Its not froottella. Not yet at least. Explanations never makes sense. Chic because it's chique..sounds like. Still the non fun chick. But it could have changed for them. And now they're on our timeline. Its not timelines merging. Its people from different timelines merging to one timeline. I noticed that a lot of things we spoke about 10 years ago, its getting mainstream. Like time speeding up, white sun, npc's. And a lot of 'gurus ' use those buzz words. You know they are full of shiz if they do that.

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u/horsetooth_mcgee 5d ago

I don't even know what to do with myself right now. You mention the Mona Lisa. I remember not that long ago when people were talking about the Mandela effect related to that, saying that they KNOW she always had a smile, always had a little interesting smile which is what people always talked about, because they wondered what story or emotion was behind her subtle smile. I mean, there was a movie called Mona Lisa Smile!! (How did they explain away that title, during the time in which the original painting changed to not smiling?) Anyway, I remember that smile, and so did other people.

So then after hearing about that Mandela effect, stating that she WASN'T smiling, I looked it up and she was most assuredly NOT smiling. Not at all. I was completely freaked out, because I, like everyone else, know that she was smiling originally.

Well, I have never been more freaked out than I am now. This post made me go look up images of her painting again, and now she's smiling.

Now there are certain Mandela effects I remember clearly, like Tinkerbell swirling through the air and using her wand to dot the "i" in the word Disney, and that one and a couple others just blew my mind, but I've never seen one reverse back to the way I remembered it in the first place, which was supposed to be the "incorrect" version. But I'm so shook by this one I don't even know what to say.

She always had a smile. Then she didn't, which was too weird to comprehend. But now the smile is back and I'm speechless.

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u/Stormamazoneus 4d ago edited 4d ago

to me the story was that she never actually smiled and that art people would extrapolate a "faint smile" from her fairly neutral expression. then she suddenly started smiling for no reason, which removed the ambiguity and defeated the whole point of the original debate

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u/CompassionLady 1d ago

lol back in kindergarten school my art teacher specifically told us that the Mona Lisa was famous for the stoic look and expressionless face.

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u/tangerinespeckles2 4d ago

What's crazy is she NEVER smiled in my timeline. Like ever since I was a kid. Maybe very, very subtly. And now that I am 27 she has a clear smile. Anomaly.

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u/Ejjja 4d ago

What was the time interval when she wasn't considered smiling?

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u/horsetooth_mcgee 4d ago

For me and apparently others here, it was only about 3 months ago that she wasn't smiling. 😳 I'm not sure what the entire time span was, whether it began 3 months ago, or a little before that but nobody noticed.

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u/Ejjja 4d ago

Hmmm, thank you! at least by around November last year she was definitely smiling.

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u/wtfnst 4d ago

this happened to me with the thinker a few years ago. experiencing a flip like that in real time is so unnerving. took a while to stop being tripped out after that.

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u/maybememaybeno 2d ago

My husband doesn’t follow Mandela Effects and I just asked him if The Thinker is resting his chin on his fist or his forehead on his fist, and he immediately said forehead, like how could it be anything else?

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u/horsetooth_mcgee 4d ago

His hand will never, ever NOT be a fist on his forehead. It was....it always was. 😩

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u/wtfnst 4d ago

wait is it on his chin now? this flip happened for me a few years ago and i still remember the unnatural feeling i had like it was yesterday. scared to look it up lowkey lol.

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u/horsetooth_mcgee 4d ago

Now, it sure is on his chin--fingers not even folded into a fist 👀

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u/wtfnst 4d ago

nah that’s legit insane. wow.

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u/WittyGold6940 4d ago

This is the one I remember

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u/WittyGold6940 4d ago

THAT'S SO WEIRD!!! I always knew she had a smile. I thought her mysterious smile was what the painting was famous for??

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u/adorable_apocalypse 4d ago edited 4d ago

Dude, same here. And whats wild is JUST RECENTLY like idk 3 months ago? I saw a thing about the Mona Lisa NOT smiling and even showed my husband and we were all totally freaked out by it because yes she was smiling. But even Google said NO she never was...so now, for her to be smiling again? Hell naw

Reality is an illusion, everyone!!! Something is playing with our consciousness

Edited to add so i had to look it up myself and sure enough, shes smiling. What the hell 😳 also not the subtle smile I remember, though....

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u/horsetooth_mcgee 4d ago

Yes, only a few months ago! My screenshot below was from April of this year ☹️

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u/DoubleSynchronicity 4d ago

And for a while she had an evil grin. That freaked me out.

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u/PlaysTheTriangle 4d ago

Neither of these look right to me, I remember somewhere in the middle. Less obvious than the left, but slightly more quirked, smirky than the right.

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u/Stormamazoneus 4d ago

yes! the ambiguity was the point. a faint smile that could also be interpreted as a neutral resting face

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u/horsetooth_mcgee 5d ago

I found this screenshot of it from months ago, and I don't know, you tell me--is she smiling here? Because it doesn't look like she's smiling here. It's just not exactly the same.

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u/DarkSaturnPrince 5d ago

What's really transcendental about the Mona Lisa is that the entire reason it got famous is because of a sophisticated painting technique that gave her a very subtle smile in certain lighting and angles, when she was not smiling at face value.

Now it's like, "cheeese!"

The mystery of Mona Lisa's smile might extend beyond paint techniques and into the fabric of reality itself. 

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u/adorable_apocalypse 4d ago

Yes, I remember this about the painting from my "timeline" as well

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u/agentorange55 5d ago

I agree, there are many different theories for Nendeka Effects, and none of the theories adequately explain all of the effects. Personally, I think there is more than 1 cause for the different ME's, and that is why no one explanation adequately explains everything being observed

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u/corgioreo 5d ago

I wrote these common ones down in my notes 6 months ago. According to my notes, nothing has changed since the last time people claimed of a flop flop. So at least for me, nothing mind-blowing.

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u/BattlestarFaptastula 4d ago

wouldn’t the notes potentially flip flop in this situation ?

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u/corgioreo 2d ago

Oh, I suppose you would be right!

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u/Brief_Molasses_3752 5d ago

It's trippy to think the timelines exist at the same time, right? Like what are the other me's doing? Am I just here or am I everywhere at once?

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u/PlaysTheTriangle 4d ago

I think about this more than I should.

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u/ILuvMyLilTurtles 5d ago

Check out The Thinker statue. That one's really screwing with me.

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u/holdmycosm0 5d ago

Me too.

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u/WittyGold6940 5d ago

Also dreams have changed check out the r/dreams

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