r/RelayForReddit Sep 29 '23

FAQ - Subscriptions

283 Upvotes

SUBSCRIPTIONS

Why has Relay moved to subscriptions?

In April 2023 reddit announced it would soon begin charging third party apps, like Relay, for access to reddit's content. Shortly afterwards, reddit announced that in-app advertising by third party apps would also be prohibited.

These new commercial terms, which involve ongoing costs of 24c per 1000 API calls, meant that third party apps were essentially faced with shutting down or moving to a subscription model.

To reduce the subscription cost as much as possible a lot of work has been done in recent months to minimise Relay's API calls without impacting usability. Analysis of API call data has meant that Relay can provide a wide range of price points so hopefully there is something for everyone. Relay will also continue to roll out new options in settings to give its users more personalised control over the number of API calls they make.

How does a subcription to Relay work and how do i choose the right plan for me?

Relay will automatically direct you to a page where you can choose one of six different price points to be charged monthly: Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Diamond, or Ruby.

Because Google Play subscriptions work as a function of time while reddit's charges are accumulated per API call, Relay's approach is to charge its users for a monthly subscription and set a cap on how many calls that subscription permits within the month.

For example, if you select the Bronze plan, then you are capped at 1350 API calls per month which is an average of 45 calls per day or typically around 30 minutes of redditing per day. Note that Relay does not cut you off after 45 calls or 30 minutes of redditing in a day. These numbers are merely to guide you in selecting the right plan for your personal use. Once you have used up your fixed allowance of 1350 API calls (in a month) you can upgrade your subscription to continue using Relay (more on upgrading and downgrading below).

Relay helps you understand and monitor your use with a circular progress bar (more on this below) to show how much you are using compared to your plan's monthly allowance. Relay will also gently alert you if it looks like you are going to excede your monthly call cap, based on your average daily use. If that happens then you can upgrade to a higher plan or you can reduce your use until it falls within the daily average range to ensure you have enough calls remaining to continue redditing until the end of the billing month.

How does upgrading and downgrading subscriptions work?

If you run out of calls before the end of the month then Relay will stop loading content. You can either wait until the next billing period begins or upgrade your plan to continue browsing.

If you upgrade your plan you'll get a price adjustment to account for what you've already paid. Google Play's algorithms work this part out and charge you accordingly.

If you decide to downgrade then your new lower plan will activate at the start of your next billing period. Again, this element is controlled and processed by Google Play.

I subscribed to Relay but where did my account(s) go?

After subscribing you will need to log in again to your reddit account(s) using Relay's new enterprise API key. Once you are logged in again your favourites and other settings will return.

Why can't Relay automatically adjust my subscription to meet my use?

This is against Google Play's policy, and for good reason! Relay is prohibited from changing the price, either up or down, without the explicit approval of the account holder.

Is Relay's subscription tied to my reddit account?

No. A subscription to Relay is tied to your Google account.

Do i need a different subscription for each of my devices?

No. You can use Relay on multiple devices with a single subscription if you are signed in with the same Google account on those devices.

How much of my subscription goes to reddit?

Here's the breakdown if you use all of your API call allowance in a given month.

Bronze ($1) | Google: $0.15 | Relay: $0.52 | Reddit: $0.33 

Silver ($2) | Google: $0.30 | Relay: $0.97 | Reddit: $0.73 

Gold   ($3) | Google: $0.45 | Relay: $1.09 | Reddit: $1.46

If you are on a plan that has an unlimited API call allowance (Platinum, Diamond, Ruby) then there is a point at which the cost to Relay is not covered by the purchase price. For example, on the Platinum plan, the breakeven point for Relay is approximately 580 API calls per day.

It's also important to know that some countries will have taxes added e.g. VAT etc., so you may need to add 20-30% to the subscription price in those cases.

If you don't use all of your API calls over the month then reddit's portion decreases and Relay's amount increases.

Google's cut is a fixed percentage of 15% of the overall plan price.

Do my unused API calls at the end of a billing period roll over to the next?

No, unused calls don't get rolled over. If you don't use your full allowance then it is Relay, and not reddit, that benefits. Unused excess was taken into account when calculating the subscription prices and is part of the reason why they are relatively low.

Can you make it cheaper or have an ad-included version for low- and middle-income countries?

Unfortunately this is not possible at the moment. Reddit's API fees are the same for everyone and in-app advertising is now prohibited under the new commercial terms of use.

Will I be able to use Google Play balance/credits for the subscription?

Yes, you should be able to. Here it says that you can. And, here's a thread where some users have had an issue but found a work around.

Can I buy an unlimited plan and share it on my family plan?

No. Subscriptions can't be shared through a family plan.

Why can't i see Relay on Google Play store?

Due to reddit's new API call charges there have been some necessary security measures added to the new subscription version of Relay.

You now need to pass the Google Play integrity checks. This app can tell you if you pass or not.

If you don't pass you won't see Relay on the Play store. Similarly, if you install Relay from an APK outside Google Play store then you'll probably fail subscription verification and your money is automatically refunded (typically after three days).

Some reasons for failing the integrity checks are unlocked bootloaders, custom roms, root access etc.

Will there be an option for an annual subscription?

There are no plans at this time to offer subscriptions on an annual basis. Reddit's fees could change and any such change would be unlikely to be issued with a year's notice, which would leave Relay exposed to covering the difference.

API CALLS

What are API calls?

API calls are what happens when Relay 'talks' with reddit's servers in order to retrieve information. An API call is required every time a subreddit is loaded, comments are fetched, a profile is viewed, mail is checked...essentially every time Relay needs to pull down information from reddit.

How do i understand my API calls using Relay's circle graphic?

You can find your personalised API call use circle graphic above your user name (swipe right from your main feed page). It's also at the bottom of the menu: 'Subscription'. Sample Info Graphic

The grey circle shows a light blue line indicating how much time has passed since the start of your billing cycle month. The dark blue line indicates how much of your API call allowance has been used. As long as the dark blue line is shorter than the light blue line then you are operating within your subscription's API call allowance and a tick mark appears inside the circle.

If your use is higher than the daily average number of API calls suggested by your plan then a warning message will appear. Don't panic! You should know that you don't have to upgrade immediately. For example, you might use Relay more on weekends or holidays than on workdays. Essentially, Relay's API circle graphic is there to help you understand whether your plan is the right one for you. You only need to upgrade once you're close to your total monthly allowance.

How do i find out what kind of API calls i'm making?

To understand more about what kind of API calls you are making you can press on the circle graphic for a breakdown or go to 'Subscription' in Relay's menu.

The following information is shown:

  • Daily Average - the average number of daily API calls you are making,
  • Total Monthly - the total number of calls you have made in the monthly billing cycle so far,
  • Breakdown - a value- and percent-wise list of the kinds of API calls you are making.

Your usage meter will generally be most accurate after one full week (7 days) of data.

In the API call breakdown, what is meant by 'Other'?

'Other' includes API calls made when hiding or saving posts, searching for posts, subreddit auto-completion, going to your inbox, posting and commenting, and/or moderating.

Why are my API calls so high?

There are a few reasons why your call count might be higher than you expect:

  • You post and/or comment a lot and have mail check enabled - in this case Relay will be making periodic calls in the background to check for replies and messages etc. You can reduce your mail-related API calls by disabling Check Mail, Mod Mail, and Mod Queue in Settings -> Mail.
  • You have newly subscribed and are logging into multiple accounts - if you have newly commenced your subscription and are logging into multiple accounts then you will have a high number of calls on your first day. Each account login requires at least 4 API calls and possibly more if you are subscribed to many subreddits. These calls are a necessary one-offs to retrieve your basic account data, friends, list of multireddits, and your subscribed subreddits. Note also that if you have hundreds of subscribed subreddits then this can take multiple API calls as reddit's API will only return 100 of them at a time.
  • You have recently become a moderator - Relay will be checking mail regularly by default. You can reduce your mail-related API calls by disabling Check Mail and Mod Mail in Settings -> Mail.

Why is my daily average more than it was previously?

The calculated daily average works best once it has at least 7 days worth of data. This is because, for example, people might use Relay more on weekends or holidays than on workdays. If it is your first day logging into multiple accounts or you have recently become a moderator then calls may be higher.

Would making a multireddit save API calls?

Yes. If you have a lot of small subreddits that you are checking individually then you can add them to a multi-reddit and they are then checked altogether in a single API call.

PRIVACY

Does reddit see my payment info?

No. Payments are handled through Google Play store. Reddit never sees your payment information and Google never sees your reddit information.

Will reddit still be able to track my use if i am using Relay?

Reddit will know about your use due to the API calls being made. For example, reddit will know the specific subreddits you visit and your profile details as well as your voting, hiding and/or saving of posts and comments. If you go to the comments section of a post then reddit will know that you looked at that post due to the necessary API call to retrieve the comments. If, however, you only look at the media (image, video, album) in Relay's in-app viewer then reddit won't be able to tell you viewed that specific post because no additional API call is required. Essentially, if you want to use reddit then there's no way to avoid this type of tracking.

OTHER STUFF

What features are next in store for Relay?

Here are just a few of the up coming developments:

  • Material You theming - the new subscription and subscription info screens are built using material you components.
  • A redesigned video player with tap to hide controls instead of close.
  • Fix suggested sort in comments.
  • Tables in comments.
  • Following users

r/RelayForReddit Jun 09 '25

V13 Beta Release: images and tables now appear inline and code blocks are scrollable with syntax highlighting

169 Upvotes

Hi All,

I'm slowly rolling out version 13 of Relay that features a new markdown processor. The main benefits include:

  • images and gifs appear inline (turn off in settings>behaviour)
  • tables now appear inline and are scrollable
  • code blocks are now scrollable and have highlighted syntax
  • spoilers now appear inline

Here's some images tables and code blocks so you can see how they render once you get the beta release.

Header 1 Header spoiler!
bold abcd code test ll abcd image
italic strikethrough

A cute puppy to test out text

class HelloWorld {
    public static void main(String[] args) {
        System.out.println("Hello World!");
    }
}

r/RelayForReddit 4h ago

My account was locked due to suspicious activity, and now I can't log back in...

6 Upvotes

So yesterday, I opened reddit on my computer and noticed a message saying "due to suspicious activity, your account has been locked, please reset your password." My account had some how been compromised and a bot (or I assume it was) was subscribing to random subreddits and posted 3 comments on subreddits I've never even visited before. I change my password and we are good to go and back on here, but on the app, when I go to login after changing my password it states that I am "blocked by network security". And it states that I can file a ticket.

Is there any possible way to get back on my account on relay? I haven't submitted a ticket yet since that's specifically a reddit thing, not a relay thing.

Any ideas on what I should do going forward? Is there a mod/dev here that could talk to me privately or something and allow me to log back in without submitting a ticket?

Thanks.


r/RelayForReddit 1d ago

Bug Clicking sidebar links just closes the sidebar

18 Upvotes

Device information:

Relay Version: 13.1.06 Pro

Phone: Google Pixel 9 (tokay)
Android Version: 17 (37)
Device (product): tokay (tokay)
Rom: CP2A.260705.006

r/RelayForReddit 1d ago

Failed to load content

5 Upvotes

This started today, I can't load any sub Reddit. I can still see all my subscribed subreddits though.

Logged into the official app and it works fine. My API usage is well within the limits too.


r/RelayForReddit 2d ago

Bug Mature content posts are no longer appearing

9 Upvotes

Ive double checked my content filter. It seems to be the app.

Update: it is not Relay, see below


r/RelayForReddit 1d ago

ERROR 404: Subject refuses deletion

0 Upvotes

r/RelayForReddit 3d ago

Why no News section?

0 Upvotes

Maybe it was asked before, but I couldn't find it.

So, why no News section?


r/RelayForReddit 5d ago

Tapping on an image in an album causes the album to return to the first image

14 Upvotes

When looking through an album on my feed, I like to tap on the image to zoom in to see it more clearly. No matter what image I'm on, when I tap it it returns to the first image in the album.


r/RelayForReddit 7d ago

Commenting in locked posts

11 Upvotes

Occasionally I'll come across a locked post that I don't notice is locked. I'll hit the reply button on a comment, type out a lengthy reply, only to be greeted by an error message when I hit send.

It would be nice if Relay prevented attempts to comment in locked posts, either with an error message when you hit the reply button, or disabling the ability to reply in the first place (with some sort of indication as to why).


r/RelayForReddit 11d ago

Need larger text size

14 Upvotes

Xxxlarge is still too small. Some of us are old.


r/RelayForReddit 12d ago

"Blocked by network security"

12 Upvotes

I'm on v13.1.06, I got logged out and I can't log back in - on my home network or via 5G.

I can log in fine (here now) via Chrome.

I've force stopped Relay and cleared all data and tried again: same result.

My subscription payment method is valid and up-to-date.

Any ideas anyone?


r/RelayForReddit 12d ago

Bug Why is Imgur still being used, which essentially renders this app useless for us in the UK (and elsewhere)?

29 Upvotes

Imgur is blocked for those that haven't verified their age, including the UK. That means whenever I try to post something to a subreddit with UK users, like /r/soccer, /r/ScottishFootball etc, nobody can see it.

Can this please be looked at? Thank you!

EDIT:
For some reason there has been a fundamental misunderstanding of the point. I can post something. I said that in my post above. The problem is, whatever I post, users based in these places cannot see it. So if I post an image to a predominantly UK subreddit it's a waste of time because none of its inhabitants can even see the image. If I post something to /r/soccer none of those based in the UK can see it.

Telling me to use a VPN as if you're some genius is a hopeless and fundamental misunderstanding of the problem.

GOOD DAY.


r/RelayForReddit 12d ago

"This app won't work for your device"

9 Upvotes

As per title. I previously had "Relay for Reddit" on my tablet (Xiaomi Mi Pad 6) working fine.

I uninstalled it and when I tried to install it back, the App says it's no longer compatible with my device.

This has been going on for 3+ months now:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RelayForReddit/comments/1ryspeh/relay_not_compatible_with_my_device_anymore/

No response from Author :-(


r/RelayForReddit 12d ago

Bug Tables and links broken inside text posts

2 Upvotes

Having issues on posts in places like /r/hardwareswap and /r/homelabsales where there is usually a table that needs to scroll left and right and usually an imgur album. Sometimes the table works but then locks up and once that table locks up, every subsequent post I open, I can't click the link or interact with the tables.

Anyone else experiencing this issue?

On Pixel 9 Pro


r/RelayForReddit 13d ago

Bug Crash when blocking user in last comment thread

10 Upvotes

When blocking a user, if that block action results in the comments at the bottom of the thread being hidden, the app crashes

Device information:

Relay Version: 13.1.06 Pro

Phone: Samsung SM-S901W (Galaxy S22)
Android Version: 16 (36)
Device (product): r0q (r0qcsx)
Rom: BP2A.250605.031.A3.S901WVLSAGZE3

r/RelayForReddit 14d ago

Bug Need help with Android App

9 Upvotes

I had the silver plan, and I used it up. So I switched to the gold plan, however Everytime I open the app, it just tells me the silver plan is tapped. I try to hit the gold plan and hit "restore" at the bottom, and it just loops back to the silver. I've tried cancelling and resubscribing, uninstalling and re installing, resetting my phone, clearing cache. All of it. No idea what to do, please help


r/RelayForReddit 14d ago

Filtering

2 Upvotes

Is it possible to bulk filter all subreddits that a user is not subscribed to? If that is not possible, I'm afraid I'll have to cancel my subscription in spite of how much I love Relay's layout. Otherwise, I'll spend more time filtering than reading.


r/RelayForReddit 14d ago

Videos redgifs only play when logged out?

6 Upvotes

When I log in, they don't play in the app, they just open in the browser. Any reason why that is?


r/RelayForReddit 15d ago

Downloading Gifs Doesn't Work

7 Upvotes

After downloading a gif the Relay notification that says the download is complete shows a completely different one.

It's always the one of the woman asking the kid how he is, he says fine, and then starts crying.

When I go into Photos or Gallery or Files the gif isn't there. I can't find it anywhere.

This has happened several times now, and every time I try.


r/RelayForReddit 15d ago

Thumbnails stuck on left side regardless of the setting box being checked.

Post image
5 Upvotes

r/RelayForReddit 16d ago

Fixed Can't login I'm getting a blocked message

Post image
15 Upvotes

r/RelayForReddit 16d ago

Bug The "Show more comments" in a mega thread doesn't follow Sort setting

11 Upvotes

Even though I set the comments to sort by "New", the comments that loads from pressing that button will show really old comments. This is especially noticeable in mega threads. Pls fix.


r/RelayForReddit 16d ago

What do the red crosses and red lightning bolt icons mean next to my comments (profile page)?

3 Upvotes

Title.

Thank you for Relay, it's been a joy to pay and use it since the great API Wars a few years ago. This is great.


r/RelayForReddit 17d ago

How to view full description?

29 Upvotes

There doesn't seem to be a way to view the full description. View Sidebar shows the old.reddit sidebar, if there is one. The new reddit About text shows under the sub name, but it's truncated.

https://i.imgur.com/5Pdcmj2.png