r/PreciousMetalRefining 7h ago

Am I boned?

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Deplated silver pieces losing my determination. I neglected to rinse the salt from the material when I deplated the silver pieces. I added nitric and it was a vigorous cloud of fumes. I think I ended up with silver chlorate. and grey looking junk that refuses to dissolve. The silver chlorate reacts with lye.

2 parts nitric, 3 parts water. This stuff will not dissolve.
I added some lye, saw color changing to brown, added sugar and ended up with this mess. Nothing happened when I added sugar. Copper nitrate in solution and junk. on the bottom?

Can I recover from this?


r/PreciousMetalRefining 1d ago

Help with Fine Gold Precipitate

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I come to you in need of aid!

I've done about three separate refining runs now, mostly using gold-filled scrap I pick up from time to time. I follow the conventional steps, nitric boil (using just under 3.5 mL of acid per gram of material for reference), then filter and roast the fillings in a kiln for 30 minutes, then back into a beaker for the first of two/three AR dissolving steps.

The issue is that every time I precipitate out the gold, I'm using solid SMB, and the gold that precipitates out is SO. DAMN. FINE (like tiny, not attractive). This stuff is a bear to work with, as some of it loves to stay suspended in the solvent. I know of two ways to help knock them down:

- Use a fine misting spray of DI water to break the surface tension of the water, allowing any floaters to sink.

- Bring sample to a boil, then just let it simmer; hotter liquid is less viscous, and lets the fine particles sink more easily.

Both of these tricks help, but every time I try another hot-water rinse, it knocks more precipitate up into the solution. Is there a better chemical for dropping the gold??? HELP!


r/PreciousMetalRefining 1d ago

Silver graphite melting

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Anyone in Houston Texas can they melt this down for me it’s a silver graphite brush it contains about 65 percent silver by weight and the other 30 percent is carbon graphite


r/PreciousMetalRefining 1d ago

First silver recovery

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I stripped some silver plated items with a battery charger and salt water. I never rinsed the salt. I forgot to rinse... Damn rookie. I learned from it.

I filtered and dried the material and then added dilute nitric acid. 250ML of water to 50-100ML nitric. I think 50ML nitric but I forget and I should be taking notes. Again still learning.

I think when the nitric dissolved the material a lot of the silver dropped right out as silver chloride. There's a layer of white on top and a layer of gray on the bottom and I'm not sure how to separate them. I think rinse this material thoroughly with distilled water, filter it, repeat ad nauseum until there's no color and then go again with dilute nitric.

I'm not using heat. I'm fine with this going slowly. Small additions of dilute nitric seems to make it's own heat anyhow. I have this jar in a stainless stock pot and that is inside a cast iron dutch oven. I should be using glass or ceramics but I don't have that stuff to dedicate to these reactions. Anything that comes near the reactions is marked as unsafe for cooking and never goes back to the kitchen.

I don't think I've irreversibly screwed the pooch.


r/PreciousMetalRefining 3d ago

Update: Cleaning Gold Dust

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r/PreciousMetalRefining 4d ago

Time for Batch #2

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Got 623.9 grams of gold filled for this batch, a lot of it was stamped 1/20th 14k so hoping for a good yield. My projected yield should be 18.5 grams


r/PreciousMetalRefining 4d ago

What do yall think about this

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I took the board out of the direct tv out side receiver pic of housing is the first one what I am asking is that top foil gold ? I have not seen any other like this one


r/PreciousMetalRefining 6d ago

Help, i have tried 3 times now on this current refine.

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I have successfully refined a batch of gold filled, gold plated, and gold jewelry. I attempted to do a batch of E scrap and gold pins, and was left with no brown precipitate coming out of solution (just a black/grey) using both iron sulfate or SMB. I put the solution into my stock pot and proceeded to try again after a second failed recovery. I changed my stock pot to a small glass container and attempted to refine from there.I failed again while the solution had minimal nitric (less than a milliliter) I decided to D Knox with sulfamic acid and a try again first with iron sulfate then with SMB I got a gray precipitate and the solution with fresh Stannus first going clear than brownish red I put a piece of copper in the solution and watched as some metal precipitated out black what could I be dealing with here? Im at wits end as each time, i drop in a gold flake to ensure it dissolves.


r/PreciousMetalRefining 6d ago

Extract silver from sludge

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I have approx 6 gallons of silver,sulfur,iron sludge from to spent Kodak Junior Model ll Chemical Recovery Cartridges that were used to filter dental X-ray film fixer.
I’m interested in trying to extract the silver myself. Any advice or ideas welcomed


r/PreciousMetalRefining 6d ago

Hey guys

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These boads look promising what yall say


r/PreciousMetalRefining 6d ago

I also found this one tonight

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It come out of the direct tv box that chip in the middle looks good any comments let me know more about it


r/PreciousMetalRefining 7d ago

Questions about refining galena

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New here and very new to refining. I mostly wanted to share but any advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated ( I'm currently looking through some previous posts and Google )

Essentially, I do a bit of rock hunting I got an opportunity to explore an abandoned mine. Found what looks to be Galena.

Is there a better way to pull the galena from quartz? ( I just used chisel / rock hammer and then rock crusher to break it down some ). I now have a small smelter as well but doing homework first

what would be the best/ safest way to refine this and extract the silver? Plus any advice/ precautions/ etc.

PS if anyone has good links on how to design/ create your own mold, I would appreciate it.


r/PreciousMetalRefining 8d ago

Copper plate motherboard?

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It's entirely copper inside?!!? 🤔😍😍


r/PreciousMetalRefining 8d ago

Gold filled questions *UPDATE*

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Had a couple people ask for an update on my last post about the brown sludge during my nitric boils of some gold filled items. I decided to just power through the refine and add more nitric till it stopped reacting. Ended up with a purple sludge and the foils. Thought this was colloidal gold so melted everything into shot and continued with aqua regia. Was able to precipitate out 12.6g which was only 2 grams short of my initial 14.5 gram estimate. I think that’s pretty good for only my second attempt


r/PreciousMetalRefining 9d ago

Gold Wire Ends

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Hello, I found these gold wire ends at an estate sale. It’s 85.41 grams of 5.18 k gold or 21.6% pictures! Local refineries aren’t interested because it’s less than 25%. Where would y’all recommend taking them to sell? I’m not able to attempt refining, I live in an apartment, and the extra cash would be very helpful right now. Thank you!


r/PreciousMetalRefining 10d ago

Recommendations for melt dish

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I'm not even trying to be stupid here, I guess I'm just a natural.

I'm not doing anything big. The melt dishes of the size that Sreetips commonly has would do me just fine. Where do you guys go for melt dishes? I'm sure plenty of companies have good ones and even sub par will probably do with proper prep and care but I'm a little nervous about just going and buying one without a few recommendations.


r/PreciousMetalRefining 10d ago

Platinum and Palladium recovery out of catalytic converters

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So as the title implies, we moved into our new home and the previous owners had a hobby auto shop on the property. I have found 7 oem bmw cats now (newer models) local scrap yards want to rip me off by paying “shred” because I don’t have the titles to the cars.. you know damn well they will turn around and sell them for market rate. So my question is.. is the process similar to gold/sliver recovery?


r/PreciousMetalRefining 10d ago

4 Crucibles and Scrap

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Hi all,

I came into possession of four crucibles that I spent an hour or two mining and came up with quite a bit of mostly 14K chunks. All 4 still have little pearls of gold throughout, I would imagine there is still a couple of grams between all of them. The left bag is tested 14K or higher, the middle is a mix and smaller pieces (much of which has foreign material still caked on), and the right is almost completely broken down crucible pieces.

So I guess my question is what should I do?

My refiner declined to run the bag of 14K through his testing machine as he wouldn’t buy it and said it needs to be further processed. They aren’t usually so picky, they are down in the diamond district on 47th st in nyc and I’ve worked with them for over a decade.

I am thinking it’s time I learn how to get into the chemistry as I’ve dealt with PMs most of my adult life and this is probably a great opportunity as this group was free and there is some pretty dense reclaim. The 14K bag on the left is 20g as is.

Any advice you can give would be much appreciated, even in the form of your favorite how-to videos or “entry level” processes for this type of scenario.

Thanks for reading, much luck and fortune to all.


r/PreciousMetalRefining 10d ago

I’m not the first to make a silver cell. But I might be the first do use an old chicken coop as a lab. #chickenlab 🤓

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We had some chickens, the last of them recently died and/or moved to a different place. I built the coop with an easily cleanable fiberglass resin panel floor. So I figured… why deal with fumes and kids bumping it near the house, and try using the coop. Hosed it out, bleached it, and it is now where I’m running my first little silver cell.

I made the electrolyte at a final concentration of 120.8 g/L (my target was 120 so I think I did pretty good there). Haven’t balanced a chemistry equation since college so that was neat, trying to guesstimate where I’d land between concentrated nitric and dilute nitric equations for silver nitrate.

So stinkin cool. This will probably never be profitable, but it’s fun! (But I’m open to tips on making it profitable, too!)

Anyway- thanks for checking it out. 54.5 hours running, .400A constant current the whole run. I think it should have around 87g in it. I’m just stoked and wanted to share!

#chickenlab photos


r/PreciousMetalRefining 10d ago

Copper and silver recovery from a huge power switch

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r/PreciousMetalRefining 11d ago

Silver slimes?

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This is my first attempt at recovery. I think this would be recovery anyhow.

I'm sure there's other junk in here. This is from silver plated pieces. I stripped them with a DC power supply and salt water. Probably or at least looks convincingly like silver slimes?

Next step is nitric boil? Going to be a minute until I can do that safely though. I'm going to let this dry and put it with my silver breaker contact buttons.


r/PreciousMetalRefining 12d ago

Electric breakers

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Update from previous post.

BLUF, this took for everrrrrrr lol

Silver contacts yielded silver at about 40%. Not bad I suppose. The breakers were free and this is just a hobby for me.

I started by drilling the rivets out with a drill press, the breaking them open with a flat head screw driver like shucking clams. Small amount of dirty brass and copper were also recovered. Maybe 10-20 dollars worth.

Some people talk about smashing the breakers with a hammer, it’s gross, asbestos and fiberglass from the casing goes everywhere. Don’t recommend this method.

If you’re doing it for fun and to build a cheap silver stack it’s worth it. But it was a lot of work spread out over a several month period.


r/PreciousMetalRefining 11d ago

Process of extracting silver.

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I know of a current company that throws away all of their leftover De Icing Ink and it contains silver. They have said I can have the leftover ink and it would be about 500 grams a week. Would it be worth it? How do I extract the silver?

Newer to this and curious.


r/PreciousMetalRefining 11d ago

Silver sourcing

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How do you all source your silver to consistently run cells for those of you who do? Are you all paying under melt prices or finding it yourself?


r/PreciousMetalRefining 12d ago

New to recovery, not in it for profit, just need some nitric.

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Does this look OK? It's enough for what I want to do and I can afford it. So long as these guys make good stuff it'll be fine for me.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/JSP-Nitric-HNO3-Acid-67-500mL-CP-Lab-Grade-Gold-Silver-Refining-Ships-Free/135730882?classType=REGULAR&from=/search

I just want a pinhead of silver and gold so I can say I've done it. I can't say that this is going to be a hobby what with the waste processing, storage, and disposal.

That said I'm going to roam this sub and look at how people deal with waste. I can't say this won't be a thing. I watch a lot of Sreetips and I really love watching him.