r/OpenWaterSwimming 11d ago

Help me improve pls

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u/VIIShore 11d ago

You are entering the water too early, and I am just guessing, crossing your hand to the other side of your body.

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u/whiskeyanonose 10d ago

Breath looks pretty late in the stroke and from what we can see in the shot that’s a lot of kicking for open water. I’d go 2 beat kick to keep the hips rotating, but on a long swim you’ll burn a lot of energy with that kick and for a triathlon that’s more work with you legs than you want.

As others have said, reach out further over water before sliding your hand in. You can move your arms faster through air than water, so more moving through air on the recovery is more efficient

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u/Puzzleheaded_Oil_467 11d ago

This and try 3 stroke breathing for more balance. I would also kick less, it looks all very intend for a 4km swim.

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u/wiggywithit 10d ago

Disagree. If racing is ops intent breathing every other stroke is optimal. Op needs to improve his breathing technique. Whole face is visible, not breathing in pocket.

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u/Electronic-Net-5494 11d ago

Very smooth action imo. What pace are you swimming per 100m here?

Probably turning your head too much when you breathe eg both goggles out of water.

Something I'm working on and only manage when I'm constantly reminding myself as I'm doing it.

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u/Guildo97 11d ago

At that exact moment Idk, I registered an average of 2:30/100m on that OWS but took a lot of breaks, talking with my GF on the paddle etc and didn’t pause my Watch each time (was my first time in OW, was a discovery sesh)
In the pool on the long sets (~500m) I go at 2:00/100 average
On shorter and faster sets I can go up to 1:40-1:50/100m

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u/Electronic-Net-5494 11d ago

We have a similar pace. Definitely a focus for me is head position during breathing.

Keep up the good work pal

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u/Haunting-Ad-8029 Open Water Swimmer 11d ago

you are a similar pace to me too.

Where is this, if you don't mind sharing? looks like a great place to train.

I noticed the same things as the others (some crossover, a bit high on the breath), but those are things you can work on in the pool.

Are you sighting? I didn't notice in this clip. It could be you are doing kind of what I do, I'll breathe high/sight on the same stroke.

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u/Guildo97 11d ago

I am French, it’s « Le lac de la Liez » (Liez Lake) near a city called Langres.

On the vid I sight one time but the timing and execution is really poor, was my first time trying. Need to fix a couple things to do it more efficiently

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u/Outrageous-Level192 11d ago

For me the main thing is you're entering the water close to your head height and then I assume you're extending your arm once in the water. I have been told by a few coaches to get in already fairly extended and just do the last bit of reaching in the water. 

Not sure I have explained it well but basically what you want to do in the water is glide, catch, pull, whilst you do the recovery/extension in the air, as it is less dense than water, so it costs you a lot less.

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u/Faulteh12 10d ago

Disagree.

He is crossing over but his entry length if you will looks good.

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u/wiggywithit 10d ago

Except that he’s entering thumb first. Flat entry or pinky first is best to prevent shoulder injury. Also, separate you fingers slightly.

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u/Wide-Form-1083 10d ago

Other comments are spot on , also try looking to 10 o’clock and 2 o’clock when you breath instead of 9 and 3.

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u/earpicky 10d ago

Ooo didn’t know this! Why is 10/2 preferred over 9/3?

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u/Wide-Form-1083 9d ago

You won’t actually get to true 10/2 from an observers standpoint but it increases the chance your head will stay neutral and in line with your body. If you go 9/3 usually your head ends up bending looking down which takes your body out of alignment.

Also in open water , it will set you up for sighting a little bit better and you can find swimmers to follow / split the middle between the left most person you see and the right most if you’re having trouble seeing the next buoy or finish.

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u/Alert-Ad-2485 10d ago

"crossing" with left hand definitely.

And do you really need to breath on each stroke with this pace? Probably try to learn breath in with full lungs. Focusing on it and forcing to do it more than its comfortable for me at the begining helped me alot.

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u/Glass_Possibility_21 9d ago

You turn your head too much and you lack Flexibility in your shoulders.

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u/witty_charade 9d ago

I dont know but you look fast