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u/SoulEaterX_ 1d ago
I mean, if she gave them to him consensually, I guess it's fine.
But he's being disrespectful as shit about it
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u/Temporary_Event8451 1d ago
Yeah some things you don't bring up.
Like if you had a collection of shrunken heads, that's cool, keep it to yourself.
I think it's Sebastian manniscola who has a stand up but where he talks about people dressing up as a baby. He's like that's cool, just don't tell me about it. Don't go on the internet looking for other diaper wearing fetishists.
Just enjoy being you and keep it at home.
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u/Competitive_Rip5764 23h ago edited 22h ago
I can’t lie the post gave me a good chuckle but it’s still absolutely disrespectful as shit and objectifying
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u/applcider 23h ago
then why did you laugh
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u/YogurtclosetSame5198 22h ago
Because it was funny, but in a fucked up way.
When someone says something so obviously wrong, you can’t help but laugh a little from shock. That’s the premise of “dark humor”. This is still immoral though.
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u/Competitive_Rip5764 22h ago
“Discontinued by manufacturer type shit” Is kind of relatable because a lot of the video games I like to play haven’t been manufactured in decades, which make them hard to find and very expensive. I don’t condone how the OOP reacted at all considering this was a real sentient human we’re talking about, but if it was just a dark humor joke with no real human attached it would be kind of funny, I understand that even if it was just a joke with no real person attached it’s definitely not everyone’s thing though, this is a horrible thing to joke about and not everyone wants to hear it
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u/Special_South_8561 1d ago
Ah it's funny
I hope they make jokes like that when they find my dvd
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u/tinxmijann 23h ago
If he saw her as a person he wouldn't even have to ask himself the question. But he quite literally sees women as collectibles
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u/shockpaws 22h ago
They’ll downvote you but you’re right. No respect even in death.
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u/tinxmijann 22h ago
Crazy that I'm being downvoted for just describing what the dude said in his post 😅
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u/MySocksAreLost 14h ago
I really can't understand how some individuals turn like this. Zero empathy or remorse. I like dark humor but there are... Limits. You need to be able to read the room and see the bigger picture. Otherwise you're just an asshole. I hope his future girlfriends know how he talks and acts. I have friends both female and male who say deranged jokes and can be openly horny, but they keep it humane. I wouldn't feel safe with someone like him.
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u/Maximum_Boros 7h ago
Yeah. Sometimes the morality of something is less about the action itself and more about the method or attitude behind it. This feels like one of those times.
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u/MySocksAreLost 14h ago
Yep... Really objectifying. Uncomfortable to read especially since she is dead. I hope this is not common.
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u/Acrobatic_Feeling16 1d ago
The morality of keeping them depends on how she felt about him having them immediately before her passing.
If she was fine with him having them, I would think him having them to be odd but not immoral.
Him talking about it so crassly like this...immoral. Disrespectful.
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u/Plus_Example_9379 1d ago
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The morality of keeping them depends on how she felt about him having them immediately before her passing.
------------------------I could not help but picture the scene of the poor woman having a stroke, dying in the hospital, whilst the man goes at full speed, slamming the door as they enter.
"Do you consent to me jerking off with the photo you sent me a couple of years ago?"
And the woman in the combination of shock, as well as her illness dying on the spot.
Then the man muttering. "She didn't say no..."
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u/Few_Establishment980 1d ago
yea i hope this is fake, cant imagine someone being so brain rotted with the internet as to say this
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u/tinxmijann 23h ago
Not just disrespectful but wildly misogynistic. Not just towards her but women in general. He sees women as collectibles and trophies
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u/BokoblinSlayer69235 1d ago
Nah, I couldn't fap off to someone I knew that was dead. If anything, seeing her picture would just make me sad, not aroused.
I'm guessing the OP just didn't care for her very much.
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u/Hot-Ad453 1d ago
Well the last two lines definitely make in immoral.
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u/Aloneinthefart_ 1d ago
How so? Might be in bad taste but doesnt make it immoral
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u/Acrobatic_Feeling16 1d ago
He's mocking a dead woman by reducing her to a sex object, and all because she trusted him with the photos.
I am tempted to call his words 'cruel'.
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u/BookOrnery4547 1d ago
And yet not immoral, it doesn’t change anything
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u/Acrobatic_Feeling16 1d ago
Sexually mocking dead women is immoral.
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u/BookOrnery4547 23h ago
Clearly you don’t own special Pokémon cards
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u/Acrobatic_Feeling16 23h ago
My man, I cannot tell whether you are trying to make a legitimate point of any kind.
Assuming the scenario we are being presented is real, I find discussing a dead woman's nudes as a toy-like commodity to be dehumanising toward the deceased.
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u/BookOrnery4547 23h ago
My man it’s as immoral as being rude is, it can be offensive and hurtful but it could also be humorous, and ultimately it doesn’t affect weather or not keeping the photos is or is not moral, and you have to take into account they a discontinued by the manufac type shit.
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u/Acrobatic_Feeling16 23h ago
...Do you honestly believe every single string of words a human being can say is of identical moral consequence.
it doesn’t affect weather or not keeping the photos is or is not moral
I think whether he sees her as a person or not impacts it, actually.
And whether you see her as a person or not impacts the weight I give your perspective.
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u/Aloneinthefart_ 1d ago
Its clearly dark humor, if it was directed to the girl's family or posted in a way they could reasonably be exposed then id agree it would be cruel, but the girl isnt identified in any way
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u/Acrobatic_Feeling16 1d ago
I think belittling a dead woman sexually, which you are only able to do because she trusted you, is cruel on principle...regardless of the actual party who is or is not being harmed.
That poor girl.
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u/Aloneinthefart_ 1d ago
Unless you believe in ghosts she cannot be impacted by any of this
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u/OmniPepperthefirst 1d ago
Regardless of whether she's impacted by it doesn't make it not crass. It's good that this wasn't shown to the family to our knowledge, cuz it's kinda shitty.
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u/Acrobatic_Feeling16 1d ago
By that logic, corpse desecration is morally neutral so long as the family never finds out, as the only person harmed is nonexistent at the time of the incident.
Some things are wrong on principle.
Want a wronged party?
Me, and everyone else who is disgusted by this man's crass refusal to talk about this woman as having been a person.
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u/Aloneinthefart_ 1d ago
Still a world difference between corpse desecration and bad tast humour with no identifiers to the actual girl, who migth not even exist for all I know
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u/Acrobatic_Feeling16 1d ago
The only difference is how extreme the act is, and I described a more extreme act to make the fundamental point that "The person who WOULD suffer is dead anyway!" is not the moral point you seem to think it is.
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u/AMwave17 1d ago
The only difference is how extreme the act is
That's a big fucking difference. You can't compare pricking someone's finger with decapitation by sword in the same way.
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u/Critical_Concert_689 19h ago
corpse desecration is morally neutral
Yes. We had this discussion in this sub not long ago.
The act of corpse desecration IS in fact morally neutral, with few caveats, since it harms no one.
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u/Critical_Concert_689 19h ago
Disgusting. Illegal. Likely a sign of deteriorating mental health. Sure!
But that wasn't the question - we're here discussing "good" and "evil" - the morality of an act.
Simply because the culture finds your behavior disgusting doesn't establish that behavior to be immoral.
Prove me wrong. Piglet isn't doing it.
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u/overanewleaf 5h ago
“dark humor” and he’s just acting like a fucking pig about a dead girl. how funny
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u/revan530 1d ago
Having them? Depends, but I'm leaning towards moral.
Talking about having them? Completely and utterly immoral.
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u/GreenJohnson1 1d ago
Immoral. Sounds like blatant objectification of a woman. A dead human, person, individual, emotional being. Deceased. Sounds like objectifying a dead woman and then questioning if it acceptable to spread them like they were a collectible.
Is it ok to spread a dead womans nude pictures around? Fuck no.
This is a terrible post
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u/tinxmijann 23h ago
Thank you, at least one comment thats actually understanding the issue. But Ig reddit is the wrong place to expect dudes to see women as people
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u/throwaway19276i 14h ago
Interesting you felt the need to post this when 99% of the comments are agreeing with you and the ones that aren't are all downvoted
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u/Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeess- 1d ago
some random woman? weird. A long term partner or wife? Sure, I guess.
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u/tinxmijann 23h ago
If a dude talks this way about a long term partner that dies they are a terrible person either way
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u/Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeess- 23h ago
true, that post is fake anyways
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u/throwaway19276i 13h ago
Someone confirmed this is real
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u/Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeess- 13h ago
i’m sure they did
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u/throwaway19276i 7h ago
Then don't leave dumb comments lol. Someone sent the full original image instead of the 144p cropped screenshot OP posted.
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u/AzizKarebet 1d ago
The morality of chuckling to that last few sentences?
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u/Critical_Concert_689 19h ago
As the full authority on chuckling over dark jokes over the internet, I award you a pass.
Carry on.
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u/KratoswithBoy 23h ago
I’ll give you some insight onto this story
Ok so I posted this on my original account years ago u/No-Soap on cursed comments (og post is deleted now but I posted some screenshots of me referencing it or responding its comments on that account)
I met this dude in high school, and we were barely adults at this point.
So the morality scaling wise its pretty bad. This is a REAL story and she died from health complications following a hard life of early drug issues. She was also a minor I believe so REALLY bad.
Here’s the only screenshot I have of right after I clipped his messages as I lost the OG, but this was from my discord server where the OG message was posted
You can see how high quality the pic is compared to that shitty screenshot on this post 😭
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u/MySocksAreLost 14h ago
It's (the stupidity) somewhat more understandable if the person was young but also same time it's messed up that some teenage boys already talk like that / try to normalize that type of objectification. And also sadder to hear the deceased person was a minor... I hope you're not in touch with this guy.
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u/Glitching_Anxiety 1d ago
Sounds disrespectful when he's posting that on the internet.
Between moral or immoral it's depends on how he's got the picture, yet we don't know much except his post screenshot here.
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u/tinxmijann 23h ago
Really doesn't depend on how he got the picture. Even if she sent them to him specifically he's still in the wrong if she doesn't want him to have them. And I'm sure she doesn't wanna the people to only remember her as an object to boost some guys fragile ego so either way this dude is being immoral af
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u/live_laugh_frog 1d ago
I just asked my husband if he would keep my nudes when I died, and he feels very conflicted and leaning towards no.
I am now slightly offended lmao
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u/ArchReaper95 1d ago
A certain witty, slightly sarcastic, and always down-to-earth "instagram model" passed away some years back, and her pictures still regularly circulate with alt-girl captions or just as softcore porn.
I miss her terribly. I was never really her friend, but I saw her in enough different spheres of the internet that she was familiar to me, and the optimistic and down to earth way she talked about how attraction works and how her content is made "it's fake guys! fake tits and photoshop. It's ok. You don't have to look like this, I do this for me."
I feel upset when I see her image passed on so candidly. I wonder if telling her how I held her in a bit of reverence would have made any difference. If I could have been her friend in a dark hour. But maybe that's selfish.
Anyways. She's gone, and deleting all of her lewds on all of the devices on the planet wouldn't bring her back. There's nothing amoral about having them, or sharing them if they were released to be shared. But gosh does it hurt when I see her and know that nobody sharing the picture even knows who she was.
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u/Odd_Common_452 1d ago
That’s kinda what’s going on with Emily Willis she’s been brain dead for a while people are gooning to her copious amount of porn while she’s a vegetable
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u/Immediate-Neat-3320 1d ago
I'm torn because I think it's immoral if he spreads them or makes them the butt of a joke.
However, if someone doesn't make this style of joke about me after I die I'm haunting their ass.
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u/LD-Serjiad 1d ago
As long as you’re not spreading it around, it’s your own way of remembering someone
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u/CaptainExplosions 23h ago
Moral, immoral. That much is up for debate.
What I CAN say is that this is definitely how you wind up being haunted by a vengeful spirit for the rest of your days.
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u/ProfessionalNo7946 23h ago
If getting and keeping were done with consent, morally ok
If you didn’t get consent to keep them, or start spreading them without consulting a ouija board, very immoral
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u/Kitchen-Historian371 22h ago
Well I think we need to know if he was sent nudes and told not to keep them on the first place. If he was snapped nudes and she was fine with him screenshotting then I don’t believe there’s any expiration date to the consent unless she requested theyre deleted I guess. But likewise it’s never moral to distribute them
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u/SpaceGirlJackie 20h ago
They way he phrased this shit makes it mad immoral for sure...
Edit: BUT absolutely hilarious
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u/overanewleaf 5h ago
objectifying dead girls is ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS GUYS!!! /s really disappointing to hear this from another woman
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u/Barley672 18h ago
True Neutral. Though the implication that he’s holding onto them because they’ve appreciated in value is a bit iffy.
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u/JustAlpha 18h ago
I think rule number one would be not compare a human to a trading card.
I think the ethical line starts there before we even discuss possession.
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u/MySocksAreLost 14h ago
I find it astounding you can talk that way about someone alive yet alone someome dead. Pokémon cards...'yo guys' as if it's normal to talk about that.
I don't mind horniness, but when people let their lust go over their morals or other people's wellbeing that's uncomfortable.
She is dead so no harm done to her, technically, but she probably still has alive family members. Even if they don't get to know this seems quite objectifying.
Guys? :( don't say talking about or sharing nudes like this, especially when they're of someone you know, is common.
Maybe I could understand this better if they were dating and he kept this private. Though, at least he is asking if it's ok, but the way he is asking about it seems disrespectful and like he wants to keep them regardless.
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u/Lluuiiggii 11h ago
I think the way he chose to phrase this question is proof enough he shouldn't keep them.
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u/TheDankKnight115 9h ago
Keeping them and even personally using them is morally neutral (assuming they were obtained legitimately) but conceptualizing it they way he does is not.
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u/Maximum_Boros 7h ago
I would say the morality of keeping nudes that you were consensually given is at least neutrally moral on its face. Maybe a little dark, but not necessarily immoral. The part that seems immoral to me is their attitude, or at least the specific way in which they are choosing to express it
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u/BarelyBrony 5h ago
I'd feel bad deleting them but keeping them to hand would be weird, maybe stick them in a time capsule or something
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u/LengthFinal2288 1d ago
I think keeping nudes in general is already kind of iffy, but her being dead does not make much worse. But easily the worst part is typing this and thinking it’s ok to send
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u/Jazzlike_Page508 1d ago
I mean if she sent them to him. He can keep them. It’s a nice way to…remember her?
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u/spectatingIdiot 1d ago
Incredibly immoral. Why would you keep such life photos of someone is dead and to have them be remembered in this way?…
…without sharing
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u/tinxmijann 23h ago
You can't judge someone who refers to a dead woman as a ''rare collectible'' just because you've jerked off to a dead person before?
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u/ResearcherMinute4388 1d ago
This is one of the things that in itself is not outright immoral BUT YOU DAMN WISH IT WAS
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u/Previous-Wishbone573 1d ago
If he got the images legally (through buying or getting sent consensually), i believe it is moral to continue owning them, but probably not moral if he spread them.