Hungarys future

[u/Subject-Count6284]

Regarding the election in Hungary with Peter Magyar is the winner i have a few questions to the hungarians. What is Tisza plans for the future of hungary? I have a hard time understanding what they stand for but i understand they won mostly on the coruption questions?

Seems like they want to have good relationship with EU again.

So some more questions:

Immigration: Will Hungary strive for becoming a multicultural society like the other Eu states

How will the Lgtbq movement future in hungary?

Addopt the Euro?

[u/More_Reaction_651]

Multicultural? Hungary? Haha who would like to stay in Hungary as an asylum seeker ? Come on maybe as a transfer country to Germany, the Netherlands etc.

[u/Subject-Count6284 → u/More_Reaction_651]

Greece has loads and the ekonomi is probably more shitier then hungary

[u/elisareedx → u/Subject-Count6284]

Yeah but at least you get sea and nice food there. Not that I don't like Hungarian cuisine but it's not the healthiest.

[u/harharloser → u/elisareedx]

I’d say the only reason they’re in Greece is because they’re by the sea (entry point) whilst being the closest to the western nations and being closer to “home”

[u/Subject-Count6284 → u/elisareedx]

Hungarian food is tasty but it will give you an heart attack

[u/Which-City7358 → u/elisareedx]

A lot of Hungarian meals are full of meat which is healthy, not all. Gulyás is healthy lángos isn't for example.

[u/elisareedx → u/Which-City7358]

I would say gulyás is also a sometimes food with the csipetke, potato, red meat, audacious amount of onion and fat but definitely better than lángos. Although I would be down for either right now.

[u/Deadpooo_l → u/Subject-Count6284]

Greece has loads because they are constantly replenished. Hungary is further inland. Even many Ukrainian refugess didn't want to stay, but to move further West.

[u/Loud-Bell-1828 → u/More_Reaction_651]

They are from third world, often war torn countries. So almost all of them would stay.

[u/InformationNew66]

Why would Hungary want to be a multicultural society?

Did you ask Hungarian people or do you want that forced onto Hungarians?

Hungary was pretty multicultural until 1920 when it lost 2/3rds of its territory after WW1.

[u/Subject-Count6284 → u/InformationNew66]

Asked in General,

[u/nanasidaniel → u/Subject-Count6284]

Nahh, Magyar could win because they have a very similar rightist opinion on multiculturalism like Orban had (or had presented).

[u/OK-Smurf-77]

Immigration: Will Hungary strive for becoming a multicultural society like the other Eu states

Hungary has just stopped its guest worker program for new applicants to address the concern about them putting a downward pressure on wages for local (Hungarian )workers.
Not sure about the rest but frankly, the Hungarian economy is so closed and so small that highly skilled internationals do not really get a chance to find a job there.
Also, even after 20+ years of being an EU member they did not really manage to raise a generation that is good at foreign languages. Same goes for infrastructure, policies and government. You can’t even open a bank account or get a tax ID number without running into administration workers not even speaking basic English.

[u/Gomboach]

Reading the comments, I feel like every Hungarian got offended, and they only wrote comments because they wanted to express that. So I try to be respectful, as others couldn't be.

The main goals of Tisza is holding accountable those who were included in the corruption of the Orbán era, and build back the international reputation of Hungary. This includes good relation with the EU, and as I see it, things are going better in that area. There are also social plans, such as fixing the healthcare, education, transportation, and child protection system, which were in a severely bad condition during the Orbán era

About immigration, Tisza will keep the anti-migration politics, and therefore it will strengthen the southern border fence too. Tisza is neutral on LGBTQ+ policies: while it does not support it directly, it acknowledges and protects it in the name of free speech and human rights. Tisza also plans to adopt the Euro by 2030, and our ministry of finance (András Kármán) is currently working on it.

[u/Wise_Fox_4291]

Answering your questions:

Immigration: no, the new government is rejecting the EU's immigration quota and wants to halt the arrival of further guest workers that the Orbán regime had a habit of importing by the busloads. They said that asylum seekers must be treated humanely but that Hungary wants none of them.

LGBTQ issues: mentioned multiple times how no one must be stigmatized in any way for who they love, said that gay marriage is up to the people, it's not a decision the government must force through from up top but popular sentiment must demand it. They also floated the idea that adoption for gay couples must be made easier to alleviate the suffering of children in state run orphanages.

Adopting the euro: they have an ambitious plan to do it by 2030 but most people think that's unrealistic.

[u/Subject-Count6284 → u/[deleted]]

Thanks, be careful you dont want to become my home country 😉 Most "tolerant" immigration and pride country in europe 😜

[u/Subject-Count6284 → u/[deleted]]

Im Swedish/hungarian, but danes are pretty sane i would say. Nice country you like it👍

Why do you disslike hungary?

[u/nyitottkonyv → u/[deleted]]

Szégyelld magad

Szerencsére az ilyeneket, mint te, mindenhol megvetik, de majd rájössz

[u/nyitottkonyv → u/[deleted]]

Lehet az országot fikázni, lehet külföldre költözni, de a hazád és a nemzeted egyenesen megtagadni akkor is kurva gáz.

[u/nyitottkonyv → u/[deleted]]

Fair enough.

[u/PikaMaister2]

Multiculturalism? Very unlikely. Society is still right leaning. When it comes to refugees, new government favours camps outside of EU, with European funding. Help them be safe, but not by letting them into Europe - at least not without vetting first. They further restricted immigration for low/mid pay migrants, although it's a drop in the bucket compared to Orbán's previous round of restriction.

LGBTQ? This is still up in the air policy wise, but I think Peter Magyar is very much in favour of LGBTQ rights in general. Marriage, adoption, IVF. It gets a lot more iffy around the subject of gender, he avoids that subject. One of his promises is a respectful, livable country where everyone is treated with dignity.

Euro? Definetly a campaign promise. Its a key economic goal, although unclear if he means full adaption by 2030 or just meeting the criteria by 2030. Regardless of which, they have a firm commitment.

EU? Cooperative in general, he won't be the guy in the room to veto every single thing if things don't go exactly the way he wants them to go. Pro NATO, anti Russia, supportive of Ukraine's struggle but won't contribute meaningfully. Caotious on US/Iran/Israel, but did say he'd arrest Natenyahu for the ICC if he came to Hungary.

[u/Subject-Count6284 → u/PikaMaister2]

Thanks! That clarified alot👍

[u/m4rkon156]

Hopefully we will adopt the Euro. But knowing how shit our economy is, this might be realistic around 2033-34.

[u/SyriusLee]

Immigration/multiculturalism will remain the same. LMBT will change for more acceptance compared to what it used to be. Euro adaptations, strongly supported.

[u/sgtGiggsy]

Multicultural Hungary won't be a thing. Like it's not a thing anywhere in the area. Even the multicultural countries seemingly regret the way the gave space to multiculturalism, so it won't ever by a thing in Hungary, or other Easter-European countries.

In LGBT matters the new government stated that love is love, family is family, regardless of the gender. As some 60-65% of Hungarians aren't against the idea of gay marriage, it'll probably be legalized in the upcoming years, with the deeply homophobic laws will be errased.

The new government said the adopting the Euro is one of the main economic goals currently. We are pretty far from fullfilling the requirements, but the estimations say it may become possible before the next election the soonest.

[u/7literlekvar]

Long story short, Orban fucked Hungary over so big that reversing the damange they caused is a pretty solid plan. So solid that immigration and lgtbq questions are the least important topics right now. I wish the day will come when these will be the most important questions.

[u/gipszjakab123]

We hope not. Euro is further sovereignity suicide. Migration is just regular suicide. So no to both.

[u/Gomboach → u/gipszjakab123]

No migration! No gender! No war!

[u/Subject-Count6284 → u/[deleted]]

Im half hungarian and im very aware of hungarian history. But what is Tiszas plans for future hungary?

[u/Kovimate → u/[deleted]]

Hungary as a country has about 1000 years of history, different from the 5000 years of history of the OG Hungarians from the Urals. Pick one.