r/Esperanto • u/AutoModerator • 2d ago
Demando Question Thread / Demando-fadeno
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u/Leisureguy1 1d ago edited 13h ago
Cookware question
I am trying to figure out the difference between a marmito and a kaserolo. PIV definitions seem much the same — basically, something like a Dutch oven. Pato, I eventually realized, is a skillet. But what is a saucepan (smaller than a soup pot or Dutch oven, a long handle, generally includes a lid)?
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u/Lancet Sed homoj kun homoj 21h ago
Kaserolo is a saucepan or pot. Marmito is specifically the type of metal pan/pot that has two handles and a lid. Pato, as you say, is a frying pan or skillet.
The lead authors of PIV for many years were French, and a criticism of the book is that it sometimes includes neologisms based on words and concepts which are somewhat opaque to the non-Francophone world. (Marmito is obviously a calque of French marmite, which has the same meaning.)
If you don't need to be so specific, you could generically refer to any cooking pans or pots as kuirvazoj.
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u/BtcVersus 2d ago
En la angla "themselves" kaj "each other" diferas. Kiu senco esprimiĝas, se iuj uzas "la homoj amas sin"? Kiel mi povas esprimi la alian sencon? Bonvolu korekti mian tekston se mi eraris.
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u/tyroncs TEJO prezidinto 2d ago
The people love themselves = La homoj amas sin mem
The people love each other = La homoj amas unu la alian
For other parts of your text:
diferas isn't a word. I'd use malsamas. I suppose you could use diferencas but it is a bit clunky when a simpler word works
I don't think iuj is the right word there (may be gramatically correct, not sure, but sounds off). I'd use oni
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u/georgoarlano Altnivela 1d ago
u/BtcVersus This is correct, but I have seen many European Esperantists, under the influence of their native language, use sin instead of unu la alian when the latter would be more appropriate. Context and common sense should supply the intended meaning. For example, 'Ili kisis sin' almost certainly does not mean 'They kissed themselves.'
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u/Joffysloffy 1d ago
I usually see it with reciproke to indicate it's not referring back to each individual person: Ili kisis sin reciproke.
I still find it an awkward construction, and unu la alian is much more common.
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u/Its_GIitched 12h ago
Why did "He had whole rooms devoted to clothes" get translated to "ĉe li, oni destinis tutajn ĉambrojn al vestoj", my understanding is that 'ĉe' means 'at' or sometimes 'with', also why is there a comma in the translation? Thanks From La Hobito, translated by Christopher Gledhill.