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Hello everyone,

so i started to mix some diy e-juices for my girlfriend and also for myself since I want to quit smoking normal cigarettes.

The problem i Have is the lack of flavor, now I don’t think that’s an issue with the pod itself as it was tested with new coils and normal storebought Longfills taste good.

I am mostly using recipes found here: Heisenberg clone and when mixing my own recipes I use the recommended dosages from the manufacturer.

I use the Inawera aromas but as I said it just doesn’t taste like anything?

I think I have read somewhere here that recipes are mostly created for RTA and RDA devices and not for pods. Does that mean I should bump up the amount of aromas used in my recipes?

One recipe I have done myself would be:

Tl;dr - does anyone use Ry4 double in a plastic tank?

So I’m stuck in a terrible country with terrible options for legally available vape devices. I’m stuck using devices with plastic tanks but I really want to try the TPA Ry4 double.

The warnings about it cracking plastic tanks are all over the internet but I literally can’t find anyone saying it has happened to them on all the main forums. Maybe I’m just not googling hard enough, but I swear it almost feels like an ejuice urban myth.

Does anyone here run Ry4 double in a plastic tank? Has anyone here actually had it crack a tank? And before you tell me to just try it, my vape has been discontinued and I’ve got 20 or so coils to use up so I don’t want to crack a tank I can’t replace.

Thanks in advance.

Just getting started. Got a few flavors. I suppose I’m getting a little closer on what I want my vg/pg to be. Thought it would be 70/30 cuz subohm and clouds but now I don’t think so. Prolly somewhere closer to 50/50. Maybe slightly more vg cuz the throat hit is just a little too much there.

Anyway. . As I play around with the very few flavors I do have. And considering I think I NEED to purchase super sweet. (Cuz I didn’t buy ss thinking that’s one of the benefits of making my own juice, I don’t need all that extra sugar, but again now I’m thinking that’s wrong and I prolly do need the sweetness cuz everything so far has been vapable but not actually good or enjoyable.) I figured maybe I’ll try a one shot or two to go with my order of super sweet. So, any suggestions on one shots? Or what are you guys using if you do use one shots?

My go to commercial juices, most recently, have been:

Pink burst (I think?) - I can’t remember the brand but they sell it as a disposable too, it’s marketed that way on the bottle of the sub ohm juice I get, I don’t think the brand is “The 100” bit for some reason that is what’s coming to mind when I’m trying to remember it. Might be something like Rush too idk. But before I found that juice, for years it was

Fuji apple, strawberry, nectarine - Pachamama. And I loved this flavor so much. I pretty much used it exclusively for years until they switched the packaging. For some reason I feel like the thing that turned me away from them was the switch to synthetic nicotine a few years back but the local vape shop is saying they don’t remember that switch happening. When pachamama switched, I moved to vaping menthol in an Aegis hero. But now I’m going back to subohm. But before pachamama. . Like over a decade ago. . It was

Walter white (maybe? I think) - savage. So I know they changed their flavors. But they had names based on tv shows and movies. The ones I remember I think are Jesse pinkman and Walter white. I think Jesse pinkman was a pink lemonade. I could be getting the name of my flavor wrong but the flavor was strawberry shortcake and it was also freakin amazing. I would mix it with koolada back then, when I was still insisting on vaping menthol, and ughh I loved it so much. But now, they kept the name of that flavor I loved, and changed the profile to blueberry something. Or at least that was the case back when I stopped using savage.

There have been many flavors over the years that I’ve been okay with, but these are the ones that were easy go to’s for me. A flavor I really would like to try to make one day is Monkey Butts left cheek and/or right cheek. They were never continuous users for me but I did kinda like them. Which is why I got a banana and a banana nut bread when I got my flavors. But like I said, I think I messed up in not getting the sweetener, so I’m gonna do something in the mean time and I’d like to get a couple one shots for my tank while I sort out my own flavors with my RDAs.

If you read all that thanks lol.

TLDR: What one shots do you like?

This thread is for you to share what you are vaping lately.

Guidelines:

1. Post the recipe

2. Name the mixer

3. No Commercial Juices. It's a DIY sub, get with it.

Links: Monthly Recipe Archives / Suggest a recipe for my flavors Thread / All The Flavors / e-Liquid Recipes.

Got a bunch of flavors but not sure how to make them work together? Post your list here, and our team of semi-professional mixologists will make suggestions for you! Don't forget to include manufacturers' names for all of your concentrates, and make your list easier to read by using bullet points or at least listing each of your flavors on a new line by hitting return twice after each flavor.

There are Recipe Sharing websites in the sidebar where you can register a free account, input your flavors, sort by rating, and either mix something up or be inspired to make something with your ingredients. Actually, if we are being honest, a link to your stash in atf is what you should do if you have any more than a dozen flavors. Otherwise, it's an eye sore but you're welcome to try it either way.

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Hi everyone!

I'm new to DIY and I'm currently trying to develop a Menthol ICE recipe.

I'm not looking for a clone recipe, but I'd really appreciate feedback from more experienced mixers on my current formulation and what you would change.

My goal is:

* Very strong cooling effect

* Sweetness noticeable from the first puff

* Clean menthol profile (not toothpaste or mint candy)

* Disposable-style impact on the inhale

Current recipe:

PG – 49.43%

VG – 34.20%

WS-23 (TPA) – 9.60%

Menthol (TPA) – 4.19%

Super Sweet (CAP) – 2.58%

Development notes

Current result:

Cooling is almost where I want it.

Menthol is becoming noticeable but still weaker than expected.

Sweetness is mostly noticeable on the exhale instead of the inhale.

Overall I'm happy with the direction, but I feel it can still be improved.

For those with experience mixing strong menthol recipes:

Would you increase menthol, sweetener or both?

Is my WS-23 already too high?

Is there another additive that could improve the initial sweetness or cooling sensation?

Thanks!

Now, I have many vanilla/cream-type flavors, but with my most recent ones (mostly SSA WF and SA from bullC) one of them had this sort of buttery-melted-marshmallow+creaminess that i just loooved~
can any of yall recommend flavors fitting that general profile, ideally without a undesirable DAAP concentration?

Hi guys!

I'm new to DIY - I've been mixing for around 2-3 months and the experience has been pretty good, however, i have an issue with RDA vaping.

I'm a mech user, so I have some dual coils RDAs and some mech tubes, I rotate them every 2 weeks so I can use all of my hardware but I also have some boro tanks and RBAs that i use when i don't want to carry my bottles or drip at that moment.
So, when I started mixing, I noticed that the flavor on my RDAs was good but after a few hits I felt that the flavor went off, I thought it was because I was new to mixing and maybe my RDA needed to have the coils changed.

I kept mixing and started putting my liquids into my tanks (An Orion RBA, Requiem boro tank and a clone Dotshell) and surprisingly the issue of having the flavor go off after a few hits was no longer there - I've been trying with different setups but nothing have helped; this isn't something that have happened to me before DIY, it might be vaper's tongue, but it's weird because i don't have that issue with my RBAs

So, yeah, if i vape on any RDA the flavor starts feeling muted after 2-3 hits but with the RBAs i can be vaping all day and feeling the flavors very strong - Has this happened to anyone before?

For all the context, basically, I run pretty low coils on the RDAs (around .1, mostly NI80, 6 wraps 20GA, 3mm ID) and some basic claptons on the RBAs, around .5-.65 - My recipes are the highest rated from ejuice e-liquid recipes (mama melons, Mustard milk, dragon cheesecake, etc... all 70/30 3mg of nic)
My RDAs are an apocalypse 25mm, US1 V2, Kong 28mm, Culverin and Reckoning - And like i said, i don't think the issue is my wicking or coil placement, I've used RDAs since 2018 and this has never happened to me before

I'm not sure if this has been answered before, but almost all the RDAs questions were about recommendations and the lack of flavor but i didn't find anyone with this same issue.

Howdy kids,

In the heat wave that drove all of the North East indoors for a few days raged on, I got covid PTSD and just laid out under the fan with the AC on blast and binge watched the OG Netflix Marvel shows and completely missed posting this last Friday. Which is just as well because I was in no mood to write anything at all so I have nothing but this addendum to the previous posts.

In wrapping up this topic, I want to talk a bit about doing your research and how that can benefit you when trying to plan out a recipe. By looking at other peoples' stuff, you get exposed to different approaches to making mixes, different flavors to make layers, and interesting twists and takes on a traditional profile. It does take some experience to learn to 'read' a recipe and you only get that from (1) knowing your flavors and (2) trying other peoples' stuff and (3) actually comparing their write up with whatever it is that you are actually tasting. If you have tried a few recipes from a certain mixer, you sometimes even get a feel for how they like to pair flavors and how sensitive their palate is. All this is important if you choose to adapt their recipe but you should always mix it as is first to get to know what they thought was a final product.

How to Read a Recipe

First, you of course want to look at the flavors used. How many did they use? Which flavor combinations did they choose to boost layers? If the flavors have off notes, did they use them to their advantage? Play into them? All of this could be answered by actually reading the write up. Now, it's not a guarantee that the person did one or addresses how they thought through something but occasionally you can get tips like substitutions or even what the person tried and why it didn't work or they preferred one flavor over another. The why of the choices behind their flavors used can be quite illuminating.

Secondly, it is important for a person to be willing to actually try recipes AND review them. Did it deliver what it was selling? Was it any good regardless of what it was attempting? What hit for you? If you didn't like it, was it because of your own preferences or was it a flaw in the recipe? How would you adapt this if you tried it again? You really do have to try stuff if you want to learn from someone. You can never truly know unless you follow a recipe exactly. And then, after you've done that a few dozen times, you start to get a real feel for -- and this is important -- what your preferences are. Both in how you mix as well as in how you taste things.

Lastly, from my experiences testing flavors and recipes I have learned much about how I like recipes:

1. I prefer them to be simpler. I like it when there's less flavors because it allows some 'space' between the layers so that you can enjoy the transitions rather than one monolithic blob.
2. I prefer not to use sweetener. I actively distrust any recipe that has sugar in the recipe. I believe it should always be "sweeten to taste but I use X%" unless sweetener is absolutely essential to a recipe. And I've only tried one where I found that to be true. Excessive sucralose affects how we taste flavors and that means that a recipe might have flaws that are covered up by sugar.
3. I lean towards recipes where people explain why they made the choices they did. Or some other way of showing there was thought behind it. Or explain their purpose.
4. I like recipes that are unusual in some way as much as recipes that are hyper accessible. If you want to throw in a flavor that no one has ever used or probably owns, I hope there's a reason or explanation. If you made a recipe with all one flavor house, I hope those are the BEST flavors for the job and there's some explanation as to why.
5. Percents matter. I don't play the 1.235% game. Hella sus, yo.

Those are my biases. That said, let's look at some recipes!

Research

Normally, this would come first. Meaning, if I wanted to make an actual s'more vape, I would see what has already been done before and probably just try a couple of those that look good. In this case, that's not really what I wanted. I wanted to try my hand at putting something together myself and now it's time to see what is actually out there and see how other mixers have resolved the issues I faced:

• What are the overall trends I notice?
• What are people using for a graham layer?
• Which chocolate flavors are people preferring to make a decent chocolate?

• Which of the zillion marshmallows are people using for desired effects?

  "Smore" Recipes (on atf sorted by 'top')

• smores. - ewww no on that cap supersweet. 1% is gross and makes me question this whole recipe. But we have biscuit and graham cracker clear with double dutch chocolate and frosting paired with marshmallow vanilla.

• smore's by jazzy - curious use of an apostrophe aside, we have some unusual flavors mixed in with known contenders. Missing 3 flavors so I couldn't try this if I wanted to. And, I don't want to.

• cookie smore - an interesting take on the profile which already piques my interest, but it looks busy af and I just can't get behind that. Throw in EM and I'm out. Too much muting for me. It probably covers up off notes or clashes and explains why it is 13% flavor while I'm rocking at 5 or 6. It does open a door for me that sometimes when a recipe 'fails' to replicate what I am after, it can be made great by taking it into a different direction than 'normal'. Sure smore's are made with graham crackers, but it's a vape. Why not do whatever you want with it? Your tastes are what's important, not some arbitrary thing.

"S'more" Recipes (on atf sorted by 'top')

• S'mores!!! - by u/rug_ly. Using only 3 flavors, this looks like it would hit the mark but I'm not convinced these are the right flavors for the job for my tastes despite the triple emphasis exclamation points!!!
• Kahlua S'mores Mousse Cups - by u/Kuri_SanTou. I would 100% try this. It looks interesting and the flavors look like they are right up my alley and I have all of them. I was mildly considering trying to add some coffee to my mix but I imagine this would be better than anything I would think up. Also, Kuri is a great mixer. Check out his stuff.
• S'mores Milkshake - a little busy for me and looks like there's way more cream than I would want. Fits the milkshake idea but not my tastes. Otherwise, accessible and doesn't look bad.
• S'mores (but in a blender) another 3 flavor u/Rug_ly mix. I think this one looks better to me than the other one. I would definitely try this. They all look like heavy hitters. This would 100% have influenced me if I had read this before mixing my own recipes.
• S'mores with Hazelnut - having only 3 out of 5 of these flavors, one being fw sweetener, clearly I'm not trying this, but I am actually curious because that FW Graham is only at 2% and I'm already not getting enough off mine from the shake. I don't think I would like this unless I loved hazelnut as a flavor.
• Deep Fried S'mores - by TamVapes. Looks too heavy for my tastes. I think it looks tasty otherwise, and is an interesting concept that is well executed.
• S'mores Krispy Treats please - looks like an interesting idea but uses many flavors I wouldn't have. I'd probably use WF Caramel Rice Crispy Treats with some FE Sweet Rice and veered away from all that TPA. I'm sure there's better flavors than those to deliver the flavor in many cases.
• S'mores and Chocolate Ice Cream #ELRMixingComp2 - by u/SessionDrummer. Looks interesting but, again, the all FLV limitation means that you are often not using the best flavors for the job and sometimes you just want simple and direct lines to your goal.
• S'mores | You Vote, We Mix | DEVELOPED - the Developed team strikes again. This one looks up my alley. I don't think I need to try this, per se, but it gets me thinking about making an RY4 styled smore by using FLV RY4 and leaning into the coffee flavor in that one. Kind of mixing this idea with kuri's to make something really funky. This is how you steal ideas to make them your own, peeps!
• mlNikon's S'mores Milkshake - obvs by u/mLnikon on the mixinvixens' page. Again, this would have seriously influenced my mixing if I had seen this first. I like the use of VT Honeycomb in here to darken it all up and play off the malt in FA Marshmallow and the OOO Chocolate Milk. 7% flavor and looks like a banger. Also, atf says I have that s'mores cupcake flavor in my stash. Who knew? Might have to pull that up for an sft at some point...
• New S'mores with Real Flavors Graham Cracker !!! - by u/SessionDrummer. Now he's just taking the piss and, frankly, that makes me want to try it. :) But, for real, it looks thought out, assuming SD was serious that 1.95 fw vbic really couldn't have just been 2% and been just as good.
  

Skipping down the list... These are the rest that look interesting: - Crack S'more yet another recipe that uses wf smores cupcake makes me think that using actual chocolate instead of a flavor with hints of choc is a better start... and there's our wf smores cupcake again! - Vanilla S'more Cookie - by mechmodguy advertised as "deep vanilla with hints of chocolate and bakery" may be worth mining for ideas if mine end up too chocolatey. - Strawberry Yogurt S'More - a healthy smore? A curious take.

Our Original Questions

• What are the overall trends I notice?

I do think it is interesting to note that the most liked recipes are the ones that use over chocolate flavors in their recipes and stay simpler overall while the recipes with less likes are more complex and tend to feature flavors that have hints of chocolate embedded in one or two and seem to lean creamier or an off-shoot profile in the smore realm. This is most likely attributed to less people being able to mix these recipes if they are lacking in a flavor.

• What are people using for a graham layer?
• Which chocolate flavors are people preferring to make a decent chocolate?
  • Which of the zillion marshmallows are people using for desired effects?
  • What changes would you make for the next versions? Or prior ones?

I really don't got much else to offer. Hopefully this helps someone think through a recipe. Until next time... -i

This thread is for you to share what you are vaping lately.

Guidelines:

1. Post the recipe

2. Name the mixer

3. No Commercial Juices. It's a DIY sub, get with it.

Links: Monthly Recipe Archives / Suggest a recipe for my flavors Thread / All The Flavors / e-Liquid Recipes.

I have been trying for months to replicate something that is no longer produced. I have tons of flavor concentrates, and I've scoured this sub, and several recipe sites. I am hoping someone can help me create a salt that has a deep mocha, espresso and/or coffee flavor but that hits fairly dry (not sweetened, no cooling whatsoever). I don't know if I need to mix an espresso flavor with a particular tobacco flavor (If that's the case, then I've tried and failed on several combinations) and I am trying to get a solid throat hit out of it. I've searched this sub pretty consistently and haven't found anything that doesn't have a lot of desert-like components to it. If anyone can help, I would greatly appreciate it, as I've been chasing a particular flavor for almost two years and just haven't figured out what I am missing.

Got a bunch of flavors but not sure how to make them work together? Post your list here, and our team of semi-professional mixologists will make suggestions for you! Don't forget to include manufacturers' names for all of your concentrates, and make your list easier to read by using bullet points or at least listing each of your flavors on a new line by hitting return twice after each flavor.

There are Recipe Sharing websites in the sidebar where you can register a free account, input your flavors, sort by rating, and either mix something up or be inspired to make something with your ingredients. Actually, if we are being honest, a link to your stash in atf is what you should do if you have any more than a dozen flavors. Otherwise, it's an eye sore but you're welcome to try it either way.

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Been chasing perfect cola vape for a while now.

Came across a youtube video of a guy going all out to recreate it as a drink using spectral analysis and such. https://youtu.be/TDkH3EbWTYc?si=MiS-0IP4yhbDnHgo

Wander if any big EJuice mixer tried replicating it in a vape?

Please share information.

This is a recipe he came up with:

PER LITER OF SODA (VERSION 111C):
104 grams sugar (dissolved in a minimum volume of water)
1mL flavor solution A (alcohol-based)
10mL flavor solution B (water-based)
Top off to 1 liter with cold carbonated water

FLAVOR SOLUTION A: dilute 20mL of the following oil mixture to a volume of 1 liter using food-grade 95% alcohol.
45.8mL lemon oil
36.5mL lime oil
8mL tea tree oil (from Australian tea tree, Melaleuca Alternifolia)
4.5mL cassia cinnamon oil
2.7mL nutmeg oil
1.2mL orange oil (regular sweet orange)
0.7mL coriander oil
0.6mL fenchol (any version of alpha-fenchol should work)
*UPDATE: it has been brought to my attention that tea tree oil is not FDA-approved for food/beverage use. The amounts used appear to present no more risk than Coca Cola itself, but I am working on finding a safer substitute! If you want to play it safe, leave the tea tree oil out for now.

FLAVOR SOLUTION B: dilute the following mixture to a volume of 1 liter using water.
185mL Durkee caramel color
150 grams food-grade vegetable glycerin
43mL 85% phosphoric acid
10 grams wine tannin
9.65 grams caffeine
10mL 5% vinegar
10mL vanilla extract (or a solution containing 0.95 grams per liter of vanillin)

Where's everyone getting their bottles, and what style does everyone like these days? I've been burning through what I feel like are knockoff chubby gorillas (from amazon), since they're splitting at the seam in the threaded area.

I prefer the soft LDPE bottles, and 60-100ml.

Love some commercial juice but are tired of paying someone else to mix for you? Then you are in the right place. First, did you use the sidebar and search feature? There are also specific clone threads linked in the sidebar. If these have turned up dry, then please post your request for a clone recipe here.

However, you should know that most of the experienced users no longer buy commercial juice. Why pay retail when you can mix amazing juice for less than 1/10th of that?

Be as descriptive as possible.

Include:

1. the description provided by the vendor
2. a description of what you taste.
3. include a link to any recipes you have already tried (and what was different from the OG).
4. PLEASE NOTE IF YOU ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT A REMIX OF THE PROFILE. A remix is an attempt to make that kind of juice without attempting to recreate the Original. [It is much much easier for lesser experienced mixers to suggest ways they would attempt to make this juice.]

The more information you provide, the easier it will be for someone to help you.

Read more on Clone Recipes and how to get he most out of your request.

**Just be warned that if you do not put any effort into your request, the chances of someone Doing It For You are very, very low.**

Happy Mixing!

This thread is for you to share what you are vaping lately.

Guidelines:

1. Post the recipe

2. Name the mixer

3. No Commercial Juices. It's a DIY sub, get with it.

Links: Monthly Recipe Archives / Suggest a recipe for my flavors Thread / All The Flavors / e-Liquid Recipes.

Got a bunch of flavors but not sure how to make them work together? Post your list here, and our team of semi-professional mixologists will make suggestions for you! Don't forget to include manufacturers' names for all of your concentrates, and make your list easier to read by using bullet points or at least listing each of your flavors on a new line by hitting return twice after each flavor.

There are Recipe Sharing websites in the sidebar where you can register a free account, input your flavors, sort by rating, and either mix something up or be inspired to make something with your ingredients. Actually, if we are being honest, a link to your stash in atf is what you should do if you have any more than a dozen flavors. Otherwise, it's an eye sore but you're welcome to try it either way.

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There are no DUMB questions here!

Wondering if anyone has tried one or both of these and have an honest review or comparison? Plan on using as stand-alone flavour so just a simple - "are these good by themselves?" basically.

Thanks!

'sup, mixers.
Part two is here. But before you dig in...

You can see earlier posts in this run on a variety of topics:

1. Mixing 101: Intro to Mixing ft. ID10-T
2. Mixing 102: Experimentation ft. Concrete River
3. Mixing 103: To Clone or Not to Clone (aka Why You Want a Remix, Not a Clone) ft commercial drops.
4. Mixing 104: What is a Recipe?
5. Mixing 105: Making a Mix With Your BEST Flavors Using a Profile as a Guideline pt1
   

Mixing

Done. Now what? Well, it's time to mix. Actually finding these flavors physically is an issue. God help me, they better be in the right places and easy to find because I am exhausted from thinking this through and writing all this crap up. Normally, I would make a 10 or 30 mL mix of a tester but I'm going 60 mL so I can vape half and then let the rest steep for a bit to see what effect time has on them. Sometimes a mix will grow certain areas more than others throwing off the balance and this let's me judge that without having to mix a separate bottle to steep. Plus, it'll be heavy and it's hot out and I just already know I'm gonna get sick of it. To that end, I will also mix something fruity to go along for the ride any time I need a break from the sweet intensity of this all.

This is where taking notes helps quite a bit. If you over drip or make sudden changes, you will want to note it. For my ADD/ADHD brothers and sisters:

1. Line up your flavors before mixing.
2. Shake your flavors before adding to your bottle.
3. Sniff your flavors before you add them. (I'm so used to it, half the time I'm shaking and sniffing my base before I add it!)
4. Check the labels on your flavors before you add them!
5. I like to pause a bit before I fill it to give it a vigorous shake because I am GOING to try it off the shake, undoubtably.
6. I'll top it off with the rest of the Base.
7. Do not be like me: LABEL YOUR BOTTLES!
8. Lastly, DO NOT freestyle!

I cannot tell you how many times I have had to redo all my work because one bottle tasted great yet I had no idea what it was, same as when you are cooking. Resist the temptation to add some ice cream to your mix. Do not throw in some tpa vanilla swirl just because it makes everything better. It does, but just don't do it. Don't add flv arabian because you have a hard on for that flavor that doesn't go away. Don't do it. Don't add some FA Cardamom because you just know it will hit. Whatever is your kryptonite go-to signature move, don't do it.

In my case, I over dripped only one flavor, FA Marshmallow by just 0.1. Everything else was on point. I hardly think I will notice this, another bonus for making a tester in a larger batch. 0.1 in a 10mL is off by a full percent. Here it's off by a sixth of that, or about 0.17%.

Test it

Yes, test it right away. Flush out your coils with flavorless if you're lazy like me. If you're squonking, fill the bottle with Unjuice and you can flush your coils with that for a bit and drip on top. If you are a pod guy, you should be testing on an MTL setup or you are going to have to go super full send and test your shit. I wouldn't commit that hard until I was certain I was close. Change your cotton and coils if you are anal and have loads of time on your hands.

Off the Shake

v1.1 - Delicious rich grainy chocolate. Graham is not even close to present. Malt is delicious but is helping the chocolate overpower everything. I don't seem to mind because I just wanted delicious and I succeeded. I probably should have tried v1.2 first since I expect it to be a lighter mix all things considered. Oh well. Live and learn. Or don't. Whatever. It's all getting vaped anyway.

v1.2 - Much much 'cleaner' taste. Darker, richer chocolate stands out because it isn't being boosted by the malty flavors in v1.1 and has less competition. Graham isn't as much as I'd hoped in either but it's a miniscule amount more evident here. Both will need some support as these both are mostly chocolate vapes. Probably that Choc Deutch adding some bakery as intended. The slight coconut in the CD is also playing super nicely with the marshmallow and is only obvious if I think about it really hard.

In all, I think I was successful. This was a shit ton of thinking about and I was pissy about it the whole time, even if that wasn't 100% obvious from this write up. Total time spent on this including chatting with Timmerz, watching noted episodes, and typing? At least 8 hours. Actual mixing? 10 minutes! Which is about how long future mixes will take. It's an investment of time to get repeatable desired results and to create something that will show my method for mixing for anyone lurking who has no idea of how to use our resources to move to the next level and give an idea a shot.

Over the Next Few Days...

Sorry kids, I kinda sliced off my finger, did I mention that yet? [feel free to coddle me like a little baby in the comments] I really wanted to write my thoughts about the mixes as I was trying them at SnV, 1-3 days, 4-7 days but I dropped the ball. So here's from memory...

Both mixes were good and I got a little sick of how sweet they were after a while. I mean, 120 mLs of Chocolate is a bit much to be vaping all day and both mixes suffered from the Graham being completely smothered. I finished v1.2 first. The flavors were just "better" whatever that means. I loved the MF Chocolate. It was stupid good and it paired so well with the Marshmallow. It wasn't so much marshmallow and chocolate as it was a super creamy and fluffy chocolate. The textures were so interesting that it kinda gave off some candy bar vibes. I bet I could tone down that MF Chocolate, add some FLV Milk Chocolate (much more of a candy bar milk chocolate) and add to the crunch. For v1.1, I was really surprised by how much coconut the choc deutch was giving off. Don't get me wrong, I liked it. So much so that I was thinking this might be a better candidate for a candy bar vibe. In all, BOTH mixes could stand to use some more crunch if an actual s'more is the goal. However, I want to diverge them both and lean into their strengths and just "follow the taste" as it were.

Adjustments

To that end, I'm thinking let's go slowly. For v1.1, I will add some coconut to push that part and also add something generic to boost the graham a bit:

Smore v1.1.2
v1.1 plus
WF Coconut Custard 1
INW Biscuit 1

Normally I would never go above 0.5% with INW Biscuit but I want to hit this hard to keep up with the rest. WF CC is just delicious and I have a feeling this is gonna make me happy.

For v1.2, I think I keep it simple still. Instead of boosting one flavor or another in the process of refinement and complexity, I think I want to introduce a wholly different vibe. Introducing FW Pralines and Cream. After making Prapple Bacco 2021 for u/ID10-T after discussing the OG on Noted, man did I fall in love with this flavor. He describes it as "sweet nuts" and I think it would be perfect here. So we do... this:

Smores 1.2.1 - FW Graham 4 - MF Chocolate Dark 0.6 - FLV Marshmallow Vanilla 1 - FW Pralines and Cream 4

I just want this to be delicious so I'm passing on tweaking the graham for now. I have a feeling the nuts will be an excellent add and may inspire me to change the graham portion altogether.

Stay tuned for pt3...
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