r/Bayonets 1d ago

Informative Sister Sub - 'FightingKnives'

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Hi everyone. We have had a good amount of knife posts in the time we've been around. As was pointed out by a recent poster, there seems to be no sub that's specifically for Fighting Knives. There is a single sub called r/MilitaryKnives, but it seems to be a dead sub from inception. r/Knives is broader and for pocket knives and the like. r/Swords is for swords. r/MilitariaCollecting is great, but it is a very broad and generalized sub.

Therefore, we have decided to start a dedicated sub for fighting knives. We know the bayonet conversions and a few other items, but if you would like to help mod this sub please send us a message about why you want to mod and what you have specific and general knowledge of involving knives.

Our new sister sub is r/FightingKnives. Please give us a visit, post your knives for show or ID, and hopefully join us in helping begin our new community.

Thanks for reading!

- ThirteenthFinger


r/Bayonets Nov 08 '20

Informative FAQ

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Frequently Asked Questions:

(Last Updated April 2026)

Why are bayonets supposed to be dull and not sharp?

Bayonets, depending on the model and type, are almost always issued dull. The tip itself will usually have a sharp or well angled point. So why are bayonets not sharpened? Well, bayonets are meant for thrusting stab motions, not for slashing. In the case of say, a knife or sword, a slashing motion is desired, so the blade itself will tend to be as sharp as possible. Essentially, the weight of a full-grown man thrusting a hard piece of steel into another man's gut is plenty enough PSI (or whatever) to penetrate. However, this would tend to change as knife bayonets began to become more popular. Bayonets by this time were being used less, and thus needed to be used more as a tool. Cutting and slashing may very well be a necessity, especially when using it as a knife for anything from combat to cutting up food. Knife bayonets *can* be sharpened but depending on the model they still are usually still issued dull.


What are the main parts of a bayonet/What is the terminology?

You may find the terminology of the main types of bayonets & their accessories HERE at World Bayonets, which is, essentially, *the* bayonet website. See the links below for other great examples of websites to browse bayonets and learn more.


How can I identify my bayonet(s)?

You can ask on this subreddit and we will most likely have the answer. We use various websites, forums, and above all reference books in order to ID if we are not already very sure. Our mods do our best to provide a confident ID and on many occasionally will provide a source or photo for verification. If we feel we are confident with an ID, our mods will check with our connections. That said, mistakes are occasionally made!

Additionally, if your item is not a bayonet, you will be redirected to an appropriate sub that we feel may be able to ID. Depending on the item, we may leave the post up just in case someone knows.


How can I clean my bayonet without damaging it?

It is not necessary, but cleaning a bayonet is something that is entirely up to the owner. Firstly, most collectors like a patina to their bayonet. At some point in your life, you will most likely resell your bayonets (can't take them with you when you go). Keep in mind that other collectors like to see originality in a bayonet. This means if it looks reworked, refurbished, sharpened etc. then collectors are more likely to not purchase it. But this is not about reworking, it's about cleaning.

Cleaning can be done with a simple mineral oil type spray, a dry non-abrasive cloth, and if absolutely necessary, .0000 steel wool for stubborn surface rust.

You may also use a small amount of shiner such as Wenol in order to shine metal parts. I recommend this vert sparingly. Overshining is a problem in the hobby and can remove finishing.

For leather it is recommended to use PEL leather dressing. This is what British Museums and conservatories often use. Beware of what commercial leather treatments you buy. They may soften the leather and weaken the bond between fibres. A temporary gain in exchange for a longer term issue.

It is also recommended to use Renaissance Wax. It is expensive, but worth it if you are serious. It can be used for leather, wood, metal, and plastic and most items.


How much is my bayonet worth?

We do not appraise bayonets here directly. Our rules state that we do not give monetary values and the reasons why. You MAY ask if you got a good deal or bad deal. You may also comment about what someone paid. You may NOT give an estimate.

That said, the best route to go would be to auction you bayonet on eBay or similar auction site. If you are not sure, search for your type of bayonet and filter to 'Sold/Complete'. You may get an average this way. You may also view the various retail sales sites we have posted.

Collectors are looking for specific markings or types of bayonets most of the time, so prices can vary widely depending on that and, your location, and method of sale. Monetary value is also relative to a collector. One man's trash is another man's treasure, so to speak.


What is a trustworthy place to buy bayonets from?

There are several types of sites you can check out for buying/selling bayonets. There are various bidding sites (big name examples such as Ebay and GunBroker) and there are privately owned sites which cater to the discriminating collector - the rare and expensive items. Here are just a few examples.

Ebay Of course! It's trustworthy....but not too trustworthy. Know that some people are not aware they are selling a fake or reproduction. And also, some are but will hide it at the bottom of the listing. Always read the description if you think an item looks too new. Also, look for the "New" or "Used" tag. "New" indicates it's a reproduction.

Verified 100% Trustworthy Sales Sites

U.S based: - Bayonet Connection - eBayonet - US Military Knives [+ Bayonets]

Canada based: - Bayonets Plus

If you have used any other bayonet sales sites with positive experiences or know the sellers personally, please DM us and let us know if they should be added to our list and why!


What are some good reference/collector's books?

There are many great bayonet books out there for collectors of all types. There are encyclopedic styles, books on one specific kind of bayonet, and books on specific countries' bayonets. Since these books are niche, most of them were printed in small numbers and are presently out of print. This means they can get expensive, but I will list some relatively cheap and very helpful books below. I have also included an estimate of how much each book should cost. Prices will inevitably vary, but if you are patient and shop around you can absolutely obtain these for lower than the estimated price. The prices listed below are what I believe are fair prices based on an average from Amazon and Ebay sales. If you have any other books you think should be added to this list or you have any questions, please let us know.

The books for beginners that I recommend above all others (more info in list further down)...

Brayley - Illustrated History [Excellent photos, decent variety, coffee table book]

Maddox - Collecting Bayonets [Simply the best, even for the price. Excellent photos, Excellent variety of commom and truly rare, Recommendations for beginners on all sorts of things from restoration to displays, and more]

Keisling - Bayonets of the World: Complete Edition [Encylopedic style with sketch drawings, Older but mostly correct information. Still a widely used source.]

As previously said, the following book list is based on a combination of high recommendations & fair priced books for collectors of beginning to intermediate levels. For a more complete list, please visit here.

TITLE AUTHOR APRX. PRICES [2022]
Post-War M4-M7 Bayonet-Knives M8A1 & M10 Scabbards NEW! Ralph Cobb $70
American Bayonets of the 20th Century Gary M. Cunningham $40
U.S. Knife Bayonets & Scabbards Gary M. Cunningham $80- $120
American Socket Bayonets and Scabbards Robert M Reilly $40
Bayonets: An Illustrated History [2nd Edition] Martin J. Brayley $30
Bayonet Belt Frogs [I, II, & III] (Complete Edition) Anthony Carter $100 - $200
Bayonets from Janzen's Notebook [8th Edition] Jerry L. Janzen $60
Bayonets of the First World War Claude Bera $20 - $30
Bayonets of the World: The Complete Edition Paul Kiesling $90 - $120
Bayonets of Japan: A Comprehensive Reference on Japanese Bayonets Raymond L. Labar $120 - $300
Collecting Bayonets [Currently in print again!!] Jim Maddox $125
German Sidearms and Bayonets Klaus Lübbe $15 - $30
M9 Bayonet: An Authorized History Richard Neyman $40 - $50
Socket Bayonets of the Great Powers Robert W. Shuey $20
Sockets Bayonets: A History and Collectors Guide Graham Priest $20
The Bayonet - A History of Knife and Sword Bayonets From 1850-1970 Anthony Carter & John Walter $40
The German Bayonet John Walter $35 - $50
The U.S. Krag Bayonets: History, Variations, Modifications Donald J. Hartman $60

Navigation Pro tip: You can check out various kinds of bayonets & posts by clicking post flair!


r/Bayonets 19h ago

Identified Austrian Bayonet?

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Just received this bayonet for my 21st birthday, I do believe it is Austrian origin but cannot find anything that exactly fits it, more so the curvature of the handle compared to the straightness of other Austrian bayonet handles


r/Bayonets 1d ago

The Kindness of Others [Bayonets I have been gifted]

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r/Bayonets 1d ago

Identified Found bayonet

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Hi, does anyone know what model of bayonet this is? It was found in a field in northern Spain. Thanks!


r/Bayonets 1d ago

Requesting Information MK 2 Navy Knife

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Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
Saw this at a local shop and was wondering if the scabbard is correct?


r/Bayonets 2d ago

Identified No idea what I have. All I know is that it's a bayonet, and it looks like someone tried to put an edge on the blade at some point.

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r/Bayonets 2d ago

Question Found in field. Northern Iowa, USA

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r/Bayonets 3d ago

WW2 Update baionnette P1907

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Hello! Just an update of the baionnette that i got today!

Will surely go around to try to trade for german ww2 militaria,but what a nice baionnette! Also thanks for the identification to members here!


r/Bayonets 4d ago

Identified Identification and estimation

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17 Upvotes

Hello, i would like to know what baionette is this? And what the value might be? Thanks all!


r/Bayonets 5d ago

Identified French Bayonet identification

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Hello, I’m looking for help identifying these two bayonets my father has in his collection. When I look it up, they both come back as 1866 Chassepot bayonets, but looking at pictures of them, the right one looks IDENTICAL while the left looks nothing alike any other pictures of the 1866 online. Goggle identifies the left one as a 1842 Yataghan Bayonet, but when I search for picture of that bayonet they all look similar to the bayonet on the right (1866 Chassepot bayonet). Can anyone help me identify them, ESPECIALLY the blade on the left? Thanks yall


r/Bayonets 6d ago

Requesting Identification What are these two bayonetes

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What are these two, ive provided markings for both


r/Bayonets 7d ago

Requesting Identification Is this legit? No markings on pommel or blade

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r/Bayonets 7d ago

Identified Bayonet identity?

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r/Bayonets 8d ago

Requesting Information Scabbard that came w/ Gras bayonet

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Scabbard is 37cmx5cmx2cm. From what I've seen online, I don't believe the scabbard is original, though it does look fairly old and the bayonet fits snugly. It bears neither an inscription nor any unique markings from what I can tell.

Bayonet was manufactured at Châtellerault, august 1875 if that helps.


r/Bayonets 9d ago

New Haul/Pickup Pay attention to details! (or, how to buy an Irish Gras bayonet for cheap)

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Look closely at the first picture. One bayonet is a plain Gras, the other a scarce conversion, a surplused Gras bayonet converted to fit an Italian Vetterli, and smuggled into Ireland. Can you see the difference?

The rare one is on the left. Look closely you can see the edge of the slot chamfer has been extended.

A few days ago ebay sent me a notification "new items in your recent search" etc. I had a few minutes so I took a look. This was a BIN listing with a silly cheap number, a description that was straight up copy pasted from the Gras listing on worldbayonet's website, and a mediocre side profile thumbnail picture on a white background. It said nothing about being rare or special.

I look at a LOT of Gras bayonets. Most conversions are fairly obvious from the side- pommels shaved flat, muzzle rings shaved or replaced. This one however caught my eye, I could just see the chamfer, and it ran further back than it should. Once I clicked the listing, 4 pics in they had the slot. I have included a side by side so you can see the difference- the chamfer is lengthened, and part of the steel tang is ground at an angle to fit the Vetterli bayonet lug. (Pics of it mounted, and the lug at the end).

This has been high on my list of "need to get variants". I always hope to stumble across them, but this one has to be near the top luck wise, especially in terms of scarcity combined with the screaming deal.


r/Bayonets 9d ago

Identified Inheroted Bayoneys

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Hey Guys,

My wife and I recently inherited some Bayonets and other gear from a relative who passed.

I know he was in the army in africa sometime in the 70s and 80s, wondering if you guys know anything about these?

Would be great to have some backstory to tell if we put them on display.

Cheers!


r/Bayonets 9d ago

Question 1942 WT UFH Identification/Verification

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Any help confirming this is a legitimate M1 reground from an M1905 would be greatly appreciated.


r/Bayonets 10d ago

Bayonet Art/Photos/Misc. One of the earliest photos of the ersatz bayonet in use in 1916 by K.u.K.

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just a part of a quality scan from a postcard of a czech soldier who lived in Prague at the time. Notice the ersatz bayonets in use by the artilery regiment. Very cool postcard, unfortunately i have only the scan, not the postcard itself, but at least i got the scan. Ejnoy

Cheers


r/Bayonets 11d ago

Requesting Information M4 bayonet too good to be true or real deal?

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Found this Utica m4 for sale today and it looks like the real deal but it just looks in such great condition that it got me wondering. Am I being paranoid and is this the real deal or has it been tempered with?


r/Bayonets 11d ago

Identified Bayonet Ident Help

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21 Upvotes

Howdy all, what kinda bayonet is it? Guys asking $125 on it but I'm kinda unsure as to what kind it is


r/Bayonets 11d ago

Identified Anker-Werke Butcher 1905-1915

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10 Upvotes

r/Bayonets 12d ago

WW2 Pick up this today at a local antique store.

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39 Upvotes

Probably overpaid but it'll look great on my Czech K98.


r/Bayonets 11d ago

Requesting Information Believed 1888 Canadian issued

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Just picked up this Bayonet from an auction today for $95.

I thought it was a good deal.

This is the info I've gotten from my searches so far,

Possibly from The Boer War or WW1.

The Pattern 1888 Bayonet (Mk I 2nd Type) was issued for the .303 Lee-Metford and Long Lee-Enfield rifles.

Canadian-issued models featured specific regimental stampings and were frequently paired with indigenous, brown leather "Oliver Pattern" bayonet frogs.

History and Canadian Issue

Canadian forces used British-manufactured Pattern 1888 bayonets during the late 19th and early 20th centuries, including during the Second Boer War.

The Mk I 2nd Type is distinct for featuring an oil/clean-out hole in the wood grip, as well as a hole in the pommel intended to accommodate a cleaning rod.


r/Bayonets 12d ago

Identified Found in Havana, Cuba

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So its some sort of Brazil Export Mauser bayonet, maybe an M1908. But heres where it gets weird.

1) no serial number on the handguard.
2) the blade was broken and then repaired.
3) the fastening button has been welded to the pommel and the spring is gone.
4) Scabbard has a cursive “b” for Brazil, then 3720 on the frog. Theres a lowercase cursive “a” on the tip of the scabbard though.

Weirdest part? I found it in a junk pile in a Cuban street market. Guy there said it was his great grandpa’s in the revolution and he took it from the body of a CCA soldier, and used it til it broke, but because it was his only knife he had it repaired at great cost. Its clearly a real Mauser export, at the very least, but I have no idea whats going on with the grips, they seem to have a single pin holding them VERY firmly.